Mayhem11 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 The orange doofus may meet his nemesis. But jail for contempt means he can’t be released until he has purged his contempt. I say lock him up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yagoda Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 3 hours ago, Lacessit said: Trump's $9000 in criminal contempt fines will be refunded. If he is jailed for repeated violations, he will be entitled to compensation. Dream on. Show us your expertise in American law and tell me why wouldn't be reversed on appeal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlinclaifornia Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 6 minutes ago, Yagoda said: Show us your expertise in American law and tell me why wouldn't be reversed on appeal Yikes we are in just the second week of the trial, why are you asking about his appeal? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 8 minutes ago, Yagoda said: Show us your expertise in American law and tell me why wouldn't be reversed on appeal That's rich, asking for proof of expertise after having made the original claim without any of that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Yagoda Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 (edited) 59 minutes ago, stevenl said: That's rich, asking for proof of expertise after having made the original claim without any of that. You a lawyer from NY too? Cool, which of the appelate points would you like to discuss? You are a lawyer, you know what the points are, both sides? 1 hour ago, earlinclaifornia said: Yikes we are in just the second week of the trial, why are you asking about his appeal? LOL Its a separate issue. If the DA fails to prove Trumps guilt beyond a reasonable doubt (assuming that standard exists anymore in this Judges courtroom) the appeal of the contempt will still go through. But you knew that, right? Edited May 1 by Yagoda 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 16 minutes ago, Yagoda said: You a lawyer from NY too? Cool, which of the appelate points would you like to discuss? You are a lawyer, you know what the points are, both sides? Its a separate issue. If the DA fails to prove Trumps guilt beyond a reasonable doubt (assuming that standard exists anymore in this Judges courtroom) the appeal of the contempt will still go through. But you knew that, right? Please show me where I made a claim about the appeal. You however made this claim "The gag order will be reversed on appeal". According to your reasoning this opinion requires knowledge of NY appellate law. Looking forward to your expertise. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 10 hours ago, Thingamabob said: The question which is central to current events is whether Trump is likely to be standing against Biden come November 5, or not ? Yes. Unless he has health issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 9 hours ago, phetpeter said: I understand he has an inflated ego, but, he was president of the US and because he is not from one of the families, and is a self-made man, no matter how that could be misunderstood. They certainly have got the knives out for him. He certainly needs to keep his mouth shut and allow the lawyers to do their work. If they can get murderers off, then they can certainly get him off, if he stays quiet. Plus the people spoke, made him President and perhaps he would have got a second term, if the powers to be hadn't mixed the pot perhaps, and could he be in for a second term? the people vote, but, behind the scenes, the witch hunt continues. What do you mean by "mixed the pot"? Trump lost by 8 million votes in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted May 1 Popular Post Share Posted May 1 8 hours ago, BTB1977 said: If he was a Democrat this wouldn't be happening at all. All made up by the social communist. Communist have been using this tactic against their opponents for hundreds of years. God bless Trump. The only leader that cares about his country in the not so free world. You do understand that Trump supports Putin, a neoCommunist who wants to put the USSR back together. The war in Ukraine is part of that effort. So when you support Putin's war, or his minion Trump, you are a tool of the neoCommunists. Congratulations, Comrade! 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yagoda Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 1 hour ago, stevenl said: Please show me where I made a claim about the appeal. You however made this claim "The gag order will be reversed on appeal". According to your reasoning this opinion requires knowledge of NY appellate law. Looking forward to your expertise. Sheppard vs Maxwell to start 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cory1848 Posted May 1 Popular Post Share Posted May 1 12 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said: From a different perspective... instead of the hate... where is the compassion... trump may be a lot of things but is he not human as well? So now we’re supposed to show compassion for this pathetic POS? That’s the funniest thing I’ve read all day! Thanks, but I’ll save my compassion for those living in the US who are less well-off than me and who suffer directly from the actions and rhetoric of said pathetic POS, e.g. women who can no longer receive adequate health care, Spanish-speaking workers who face an uncertain future, Muslims and Jews increasingly vulnerable to hatred and bigotry unleashed by right-wing rhetoric, etc. 1 1 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 48 minutes ago, Yagoda said: Sheppard vs Maxwell to start Yes agree, the judge should have protected Trump by taking him into custody there by preventing him from seeking publicity. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lacessit Posted May 1 Popular Post Share Posted May 1 54 minutes ago, Yagoda said: Sheppard vs Maxwell to start Clutching at straws. AFAICT all the prejudicial publicity pretrial has been generated by Trump's rantings on social media. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yagoda Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 7 hours ago, Lacessit said: Clutching at straws. AFAICT all the prejudicial publicity pretrial has been generated by Trump's rantings on social media. 7 hours ago, stevenl said: Yes agree, the judge should have protected Trump by taking him into custody there by preventing him from seeking publicity. So much for discussing the law non lawyers. Love the dispassionate analysis of the case and how it applies. But then again, it's the internet and I shouldn't expect to be able to have a cogent intellectual discussion with the impaired 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yagoda Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 11 hours ago, Mayhem11 said: The orange doofus may meet his nemesis. But jail for contempt means he can’t be released until he has purged his contempt. I say lock him up. I see another lawyer here doesn't know the difference between civil and criminal contempt. Purging lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lacessit Posted May 1 Popular Post Share Posted May 1 43 minutes ago, Yagoda said: So much for discussing the law non lawyers. Love the dispassionate analysis of the case and how it applies. But then again, it's the internet and I shouldn't expect to be able to have a cogent intellectual discussion with the impaired Insulting others on this forum is all you've got, much like your hero. Who is definitely showing signs of dementia. Have you had yourself checked lately? 2 1 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jerrymahoney Posted May 1 Popular Post Share Posted May 1 11 hours ago, earlinclaifornia said: Yikes we are in just the second week of the trial, why are you asking about his appeal? LOL A post-verdict appeal can also be based upon some of Judge Merchan's pre-trial rulings. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 Do we all accept Trump is now in jail watch? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipalongcassidy Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 19 hours ago, Excogitator said: Ah, yes, to the maga-crowd, facts are known as 'dribble'.. unless, of course, the facts conform to their bias. Then facts are, once again, believable... Ah, yes, to the liberal left cult, facts are known as 'conspiracy'.. unless, of course, the facts conform to their bias. Then facts are, once again, believable... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipalongcassidy Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 15 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Posts like that display a lack of imagination. Surely you can come up with a more vitriolic label for Trump that that pathetic insult. Go for it, I'm sure you have some imagination. No... he doesn't have the mental facilities to come up with anything better than the banal liberal left everyday labels. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 15 hours ago, Roo Island said: What crime did Biden commit? Link.... What crime has Trump been convicted of that carries a term of imprisonment? Link....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 11 hours ago, Danderman123 said: You do understand that Trump supports Putin, a neoCommunist who wants to put the USSR back together. The war in Ukraine is part of that effort. So when you support Putin's war, or his minion Trump, you are a tool of the neoCommunists. Congratulations, Comrade! Prove it or you are making it up again. I won't hold my breath waiting for proof though, as you have nothing, zero, nada, except stupid accusations and deflections. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 11 hours ago, Danderman123 said: What do you mean by "mixed the pot"? Trump lost by 8 million votes in 2020. You guys just keep on ranting about the popular vote as if it mattered, which it doesn't. Have you not got anything better to say than that tired old pointless canard? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 11 hours ago, Danderman123 said: Yes. Unless he has health issues. When it comes to health issues, Trump can walk unaided without falling over, and doesn't talk to dead people or forget where people died. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 14 hours ago, Mayhem11 said: The orange doofus may meet his nemesis. But jail for contempt means he can’t be released until he has purged his contempt. I say lock him up. Yeah just do that. Show the American public how you deal with candidates for POTUS during an election campaign! Is this the USA we are discussing, or Burkina Faso? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pomchop Posted May 2 Popular Post Share Posted May 2 11 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: When it comes to health issues, Trump can walk unaided without falling over, and doesn't talk to dead people or forget where people died. Have you ever once listened to trump ramble and babble at his rallies? Obviously not. Have you noticed that trump doesn't want to start WW2 or that Nikki Haley was at the JAN 6 riot and should have called the national guard out? Obvioulsy not. Have you seen or heard trump being unable to identify a picture of his former wife? Obviously not. Have you ever seen the results of a comphrensive medical check up done by an established trusted medical facility? Don't think so. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Roo Island Posted May 2 Popular Post Share Posted May 2 2 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said: Ah, yes, to the liberal left cult, facts are known as 'conspiracy'.. unless, of course, the facts conform to their bias. Then facts are, once again, believable... Sounds like your posts. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Roo Island Posted May 2 Popular Post Share Posted May 2 1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said: What crime has Trump been convicted of that carries a term of imprisonment? Link....... Not yet. He's good at negotiating settlements. Like with Stormy. Throughout his history of criminal enterprise he’s been a party to over 4,000 legal cases in state and federal courts. He (and his family) have been found guilty of defrauding a charity; defrauding students at trump U; sexual assault; defamation, etc. A very abbreviated listing follows: In 1973, he was convicted regarding the federal housing suit for violating the Fair Housing Act. In 1985, New York City brought a lawsuit against Trump for allegedly using tactics to force out tenants of 100 Central Park South. That was resolved when he agreed to allow the tenants to live in condos. In 1988, the Justice Department sued Trump for violating procedures related to public notifications when buying voting stock in a company related to his attempted takeovers of Holiday Corporation and Bally Manufacturing Corporation in 1986. Trump agreed to pay $750,000 to settle the civil penalties of the antitrust lawsuit. In 1985, New York City brought a lawsuit against Trump for allegedly using tactics to force out tenants of 100 Central Park South. That was resolved when he agreed to allow the tenants to live in condos. In 2000, Donald Trump paid $250,000 to settle fines related to charges brought by New York State Lobbying Commission director David Grandeau. Trump was charged with circumventing state law to spend $150,000 lobbying against government approval of plans to construct an Indian-run casino in the Catskills, which would have diminished casino traffic to Trump's casinos in Atlantic City. (He can’t ever own a casino again.) In 2001, the US Security and Exchange Commission brought a financial-reporting case against Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts Inc., alleging that the company had committed several "misleading statements in the company's third-quarter 1999 earnings release". On December 6, 2022, trump's company, The Trump Organization, was convicted on 17 criminal charges. In January 2023, a federal judge fined Trump and his attorney nearly $1 million, characterizing him as "a prolific and sophisticated litigant who is repeatedly using the courts to seek revenge on political adversaries.” Trump has been involved in more legal cases than his fellow magnates Edward J. DeBartolo jr., Donald Bren, Stephen M. Ross, Sam Zell, and Larry Siverstein, combined. (Wikipedia) These are just a few of his convictions. Currently he’s under state and federal indictments which are accounted for in the daily news. He will probably lose these, too. trump in nothing more than a criminal running a criminal enterprise (and he doesn’t do it very well). One would need to be deaf, dumb and blind to have not paid attention to his very long history of criminal conduct. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo Island Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said: Yeah just do that. Show the American public how you deal with candidates for POTUS during an election campaign! Is this the USA we are discussing, or Burkina Faso? In Burkina Faso, charges would have never been brought. Guess you've never been there... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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