Jingthing Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 27 minutes ago, placeholder said: Being Jewish may not be only a religion, but it certainly doesn't mean being Israeli. It certainly doesn't mean that a Jewish person has some inherent connection to Israel. They are free to choose or reject such a connection. Criticisms of Zionism are not inherently anti-semitic. After all, there are far more evangelical Christians who are strong believers in Zionism. Being Jewish IS not only a religion. The rest of your post irrelevant to my point so I will ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 24 minutes ago, placeholder said: Being against a political state's right to exist is not the same thing as being against the right to exist of people living in that state. Personally, I don't think it's realistic to expect a one state solution. Israel certainly has a right to defend itself against murderous fanatics like those in Hamas. Do you believe that those who oppose not Israel's right to defend itself, but rather oppose the way Israel is waging it's war, are anti-Semitic? What a game player you are. Did I ever say such a thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 3 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Being Jewish IS not only a religion. The rest of your post irrelevant to my point so I will ignore. So, we can agree that being Jewish has no necessary attachment to the State of Israel? That the two shouldn't be conflated? That criticism of Israel and Zionism is not necessarily anti-Semitic? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 On 5/8/2024 at 8:38 PM, BangkokReady said: I think he means in terms of people being allowed to criticise the Israeli genocide of Palestinians in Gaza without being called antisemitic. They are usually anti Semites though, they hate Israel and Jews and want a Hamas victory over Israel/Jews in the Gaza war and they make false claims of genocide to help Hamas win the war . They don't care about any genocide , they just want Israel to be defeated 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: They are usually anti Semites though, they hate Israel and Jews and want a Hamas victory over Israel/Jews in the Gaza war and they make false claims of genocide to help Hamas win the war . They don't care about any genocide , they just want Israel to be defeated Another mindreader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 1 minute ago, placeholder said: Another mindreader. Stands to reason . Why aren't they concerned about REAL genocide , why aren't they concerned about REAL starvation , why aren't they concerned about REAL oppression ? Why do they just focus on Israel making false claims about genocide, but are not concerned about REAL genocide ? (BTW , if you put that question into Google and then post the first link that appears , I am not going to open it, so don't bother to do it ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 28 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: They are usually anti Semites though, they hate Israel and Jews and want a Hamas victory over Israel/Jews in the Gaza war and they make false claims of genocide to help Hamas win the war . They don't care about any genocide , they just want Israel to be defeated People should be allowed to criticise the genocide of Palestinians by the Israeli military without being labelled as antisemitic. That is my point. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 4 minutes ago, BangkokReady said: People should be allowed to criticise the genocide of Palestinians by the Israeli military without being labelled as antisemitic. That is my point. But there is no genocide though , they just make that false claim because they oppose Israel because they are Jews 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 7 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: But there is no genocide though , they just make that false claim because they oppose Israel because they are Jews There is a genocide, though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 11 minutes ago, BangkokReady said: There is a genocide, though. But there isn't a genocide . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said: But there isn't a genocide . But there is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Just now, BangkokReady said: But there is. No there isn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 9 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: No there isn't Yes, there is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 15 hours ago, placeholder said: So, we can agree that being Jewish has no necessary attachment to the State of Israel? That the two shouldn't be conflated? That criticism of Israel and Zionism is not necessarily anti-Semitic? They conflate them when they feel like it. They have va persecution complex which is rather ironic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 2 minutes ago, Neeranam said: They conflate them when they feel like it. They have va persecution complex which is rather ironic. At least a persecution complex would be sincere. This is just a transparent attempt to inject emotion into the issue. That said, there are many claiming to be only anti-Zionist, including you, who have occasionally slipped up and revealed their anti-Semitism. I can still recall when you judged some thaivisa member to be Jewish solely because of their vehement support of Israel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaguma Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 14 hours ago, BangkokReady said: Yes, there is. People hell bent on committing genocide usually do not allow food aid to be delivered to the people they want to kill. Nor do they encourage them to leave areas where fighting and violence will occur. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post retarius Posted May 11 Popular Post Share Posted May 11 Nothing anti-semitic about standing up to the atrocities of the vile and fascist Israeli regime 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 5 hours ago, placeholder said: At least a persecution complex would be sincere. This is just a transparent attempt to inject emotion into the issue. That said, there are many claiming to be only anti-Zionist, including you, who have occasionally slipped up and revealed their anti-Semitism. I can still recall when you judged some thaivisa member to be Jewish solely because of their vehement support of Israel. Slipped up? Please quote anything that I've written that's antisemitic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 5 hours ago, Hanaguma said: People hell bent on committing genocide usually do not allow food aid to be delivered to the people they want to kill. Nor do they encourage them to leave areas where fighting and violence will occur. Is this some sick joke? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 Just now, Neeranam said: Slipped up? Please quote anything that I've written that's antisemitic. You seem to make every thread about you and whether you are anti Semitic or not . Me me me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NativeBob Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 On 5/8/2024 at 4:03 PM, johng said: On This day of remembrance do they also remember the gypsies,gays,blacks,disabled and Russians who where also "victims" ?? Nope. Only the chosen. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 (edited) Such a surprise that a topic about a US president fighting Jew hatred attracts members slinging Jew hating tropes. Edited May 11 by Jingthing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaguma Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 46 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Is this some sick joke? No, it is an observation. One that you apparently cannot respond to. So, do you have an explanation? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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