Latest developments and discussion of recent events in the Ukraine War

[Bkk Brian]

5 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

At this stage with no hope of victory a messy peace is preferable to a continuing dirty war with a disproportinate loss of life on the Ukrainian side. Let's hope that Trump follows through and gets that deal across the line and soon. Europe is very nearly bust and with the engine of Germany stalling there's no money left to make up a US shortfall should it happen nor the weapons or manpower either. This is the only glimmer of hope in a Trump victory - the rest is a disaster for the world.

You are not Ukrainian, it is for them to decide, your opinions have zero bearing on how the Ukrainians feel about their home being occupied by invaders.

[beautifulthailand99]

9 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

You are not Ukrainian, it is for them to decide, your opinions have zero bearing on how the Ukrainians feel about their home being occupied by invaders.

With respect this is a discussion forum where we air our views with what is regarded as appropriate evidence. To address your salient point yes that is correct they can fight on for as long as the money,weapons and manpower exists. The sovereign nations supplying them in that quest can also make their own decisions whether after 3 years they still wish to fund that and that process has now thankfully begun.

Edited 1 hour ago by beautifulthailand99

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, beautifulthailand99 said:

With respect this is a discussion forum where we air our views with what is regarded as appropriate evidence. To address your salient point yes that is correct they can fight on for as long as the money,weapons and manpower exists. The sovereign nations supplying them in that quest can also make their own decisions whether after 3 years they still wish to do that and that process has now thankfully begun.

I know exactly what this is, you responded to my post, I responded back with my opinion of your stance, time for you to follow what this is.

[beautifulthailand99]

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

I know exactly what this is, you responded to my post, I responded back with my opinion of your stance, time for you to follow what this is.

Maybe Ukraine can restore democracy and have an election and show the world where they currently stand ?

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Maybe Ukraine can restore democracy and have an election and show the world where they currently stand ?

How can you have an election when they are in the middle of a war, an illegal invasion, where plenty of polls have been clear where the majority of Ukrainians stand on this.

 

An ignorant statement by you of the realities of what is happening

Edited 1 hour ago by Bkk Brian

[beautifulthailand99]

Trump mulls Ukraine peace plan that puts British troops in 800-mile buffer zone
President-elect’s proposal to freeze war with Russia would also see Ukraine agree to shelve Nato ambitions for 20 years

 

https://archive.ph/wIXXv#selection-2461.4-2465.126

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, beautifulthailand99 said:

Trump mulls Ukraine peace plan that puts British troops in 800-mile buffer zone
President-elect’s proposal to freeze war with Russia would also see Ukraine agree to shelve Nato ambitions for 20 years

 

https://archive.ph/wIXXv#selection-2461.4-2465.126

 

 

"The plan is one of several being considered by Mr Trump, who said before being elected as US president that he would start peace talks before he enters office in January."

 

“Anyone—no matter how senior in Trump’s circle—who claims to have a different view or more detailed window into his plans on Ukraine simply doesn’t know what he or she is talking about or doesn’t understand that he makes his own calls on national-security issues, many times in the moment, particularly on an issue as central as this,” a former Trump National Security Council aide said.

 

https://www.wsj.com/world/trump-presidency-ukraine-russia-war-plans-008655c0

https://archive.ph/CbFZS