Latest developments and discussion of recent events in the Ukraine War

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

I agree 100%, the fight by the Ukrainians is nothing short of heroic. However, their economy is one tenth the size of Russia, they are running out of manpower too. Their country is largely destroyed. The billions the Americans cynically pour in, knowing full that the Ukraine can never win, are just meant to weaken Russia. Indeed a negotiated peace for land would be by far the rational option, but Ukrainian nationalists who insist on not ceding an inch are to blame for those peace negotiations not happening.

Ukrainians aren't stupid - they know a ceasefire gives Russia time to reload.

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Ukrainians aren't stupid - they know a ceasefire gives Russia time to reload.

Israel knows that as well. 

[beautifulthailand99]

Money is money is money. USA loves the stuff - like in Thailand there is no bad money just money. This is Schlumberger btw the most connected politcally along with Halliburton oil services company in the world. Funny how we sanction companies we don’t like but are ok with politically connected corporations to do business where otherwise they would’ve been frozen from the western financial system. Dying for US oil a common refrain down the decades.

 

The US has kicked all competitors out of the Russian market, while actively operating themselves - Financial Times

 

https://archive.is/gLqZF

 

In May, a US Department of State official said SLB had “thus far” not breached sanctions and the company had a clear understanding of “where the guardrails” were.

A Treasury spokesperson told the FT: “The United States and an international coalition opposing Russia remain committed to reducing [Vladimir] Putin’s profits. At the same time, simply aiming to stop the flow of Russian oil would have serious consequences for the global economy.”

 

 

 

 

Edited August 23 by beautifulthailand99

[Cameroni]

6 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Money is money is money. USA loves the stuff - like in Thailand there is no bad money just money. This is Schlumberger btw the most connected politcally along with Halliburton oil services company in the world. Funny how we sanction companies we don’t like but are ok with politically connected corporations to do business where otherwise they would’ve been frozen from the western financial system.

 

The US has kicked all competitors out of the Russian market, while actively operating themselves - Financial Times

 

https://archive.is/gLqZF

 

In May, a US Department of State official said SLB had “thus far” not breached sanctions and the company had a clear understanding of “where the guardrails” were.

A Treasury spokesperson told the FT: “The United States and an international coalition opposing Russia remain committed to reducing [Vladimir] Putin’s profits. At the same time, simply aiming to stop the flow of Russian oil would have serious consequences for the global economy.”

 

 

 

 

That's hilarious. With one hand they send arms to destroy Russia, with the other they send investment to do business in Russia.

 

The hypocrisy of the US is unrivalled int he world. Unbelievable.

Edited August 23 by Cameroni

[beautifulthailand99]

6 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

That's hilarious. With one hand they send arms to destroy Russia, with the other they send investment to do business in Russia.

 

The hypocrisy of the US is unrivalled int he world. Unbelievable.

Yes that's the deal, total war this is not - except for Russia and Ukraine and the west wants an out.

[Danderman123]

21 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Israel knows that as well. 

Israel is unlikely to agree to a ceasefire until and unless Hamas is unable to launch another attack.

[zmisha]

7 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

That's hilarious. With one hand they send arms to destroy Russia, with the other they send investment to do business in Russia.

 

The hypocrisy of the US is unrivalled int he world. Unbelievable.

I can tell you even more funny things. Your central bank invest record high amounts into the US economy(not the Russian one) At the same time that Putin tell you that the west is the enemy wanting to destroy Russia. Even more funny, the money invested into the US economy is being confiscated and sent to Ukraine.

[beautifulthailand99]

3 minutes ago, zmisha said:

I can tell you even more funny things. Your central bank invest record high amounts into the US economy(not the Russian one) At the same time that Putin tell you that the west is the enemy wanting to destroy Russia. Even more funny, the money invested into the US economy is being confiscated and sent to Ukraine.

Links please.

[beautifulthailand99]

23 hours ago, zmisha said:

2 years ago Russia was near Kiev. Then it was near Kherson and now the frontline is near Kursk. 
You should know that it does not look like moving forward.
And you also might know that the silver medal in any war is not honorable.
NATO is about 6x bigger than Russia (population, economics, number of soldiers etc.) - this is the fact that you prefer to forget every time.

It's Kyiv the Orcs spell the RuZZian version.

[zmisha]

20 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Links please.

For googling in Russian -депутат госдумы федоров обвинил центральный банк в финансировании вооруженных сил украины(“ State Duma deputy Fedorov accused the central bank of financing the Ukrainian armed forces”). I thought that the western guys have heard about the recent decisions on confiscating Russian investments in favor of Ukraine. But if you have not, I will find you a link in English soon.

 

Edited August 23 by zmisha

[Yellowtail]

25 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Israel is unlikely to agree to a ceasefire until and unless Hamas is unable to launch another attack.

Israel has already agreed to the most recent brokered ceasefire, it's Palestine that is holding out. You really should know that. 

[Bkk Brian]

#MakeNoiseForUkraine

 

Slava Ukraine Independence day tomorrow 24th August! 

 

"We must not be silent in the face of Russia’s aggression."

 

Make Noise For Ukraine on Ukrainian Independence Day

The UK Government and our partners in NATO are leading an international campaign to Make Noise For Ukraine on Ukrainian Independence Day, 24 August.

We must not be silent in the face of Russia’s aggression.

This Ukrainian Independence Day, help us celebrate Ukraine’s bravery and resilience by showing your support on social media.

Organisations and members of the public are encouraged to join our campaign by posting a video making noise for Ukraine on social media with the hashtag #MakeNoiseForUkraine.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/make-noise-for-ukraine-on-ukrainian-independence-day

 

[Bkk Brian]

Kamala Harris: “I’ll help mobilize a global response, over 50 countries, to defend against Putin’s aggression. As President, I will stand strong with Ukraine and our NATO allies”.

USA-Ukraine alliance will be stronger.

 

[kwonitoy]

 

[kwonitoy]

 

[Cameroni]

MOSCOW, Aug 23 (Reuters) - Russia accused Ukraine on Friday of trying to attack the Kursk nuclear power station overnight in what it called an act of "nuclear terrorism", days before the head of the U.N. atomic watchdog is due to visit the site.

 

Russian President Vladimir Putin accused Ukraine on Thursday of trying to attack the facility, and said Moscow had informed the IAEA. 

 

The head of the IAEA, Rafael Grossi, is due to visit the power station next week. He has appealed for maximum restraint to avoid a nuclear accident.

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-accuses-ukraine-trying-attack-kursk-nuclear-power-plant-with-drone-2024-08-23/

[kwonitoy]

 

[beautifulthailand99]

 

6 hours ago, zmisha said:

For googling in Russian -депутат госдумы федоров обвинил центральный банк в финансировании вооруженных сил украины(“ State Duma deputy Fedorov accused the central bank of financing the Ukrainian armed forces”). I thought that the western guys have heard about the recent decisions on confiscating Russian investments in favor of Ukraine. But if you have not, I will find you a link in English soon.

 

 

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[kwonitoy]

 

[Social Media]

Multiple off topic posts on Nord Stream have been removed including a personal baiting post on it. @beautifulthailand99 any more of that and it will not only be the posts removed.

 

Additionaly removed from the same poster off topic vid on JFK puling out of the US elections and links to an old article on officals from India and Ukraine. Any replies to those posts also removed.

 

If you wish to discuss Nord Stream further without personal baiting, there is a topic on it here.

 

Germany Issues Arrest Warrant for Ukrainian Diver in Nord Stream Pipeline Explosions

https://aseannow.com/topic/1335497-germany-issues-arrest-warrant-for-ukrainian-diver-in-nord-stream-pipeline-explosions/

 

[thaibeachlovers]

20 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Not at all, Germany has stopped funding Ukraine to the same extent. Germany has HALVED its funding for Ukraine.

 

Therefore Germany has stopped 50 percent of its funding for Ukraine.

 

Thus, your statement that donor nations have not stopped funding for Ukraine is wrong.

 

Countries in the West have limited resources. And even the major donor, the USA will be forced to re-evluate its funding in due course.

 

True. Britain in particular has no justification to spend anything for Ukraine, given they are broke.

[Cameroni]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

True. Britain in particular has no justification to spend anything for Ukraine, given they are broke.

 

Yes, and Germany too has severe problems to sustain the 8 billion freebies it hands out to Ukraine and has announced it will scale that back to 50 percent less and then one tenth of it. In the US many are questioning the enormous sums poured into Ukraine. 

 

It can't continue indefinitely. Resources are limited in the West.

[Bkk Brian]

#MakeNoiseForUkraine

 

Mapping Ukraine’s Surprise Invasion of Russia

Ukraine’s incursion into Kursk brought about one of the largest territorial changes since the first month of the war, when Russia rapidly advanced toward major Ukrainian cities. The head of Ukraine’s armed forces, Gen. Oleksandr Syrsky, has claimed that Ukraine is in control of about 490 square miles of Russian territory.
If confirmed, that would represent roughly the same amount of land that Russian forces seized in Ukraine from January through July of this year, according to the Institute for the Study of War, a Washington-based think tank.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/08/23/world/europe/ukraine-russia-kursk-invasion-map.html

https://archive.ph/cWD1F

 

 

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

True. Britain in particular has no justification to spend anything for Ukraine, given they are broke.

Stopping Russia now avoids a larger war down the road.

[Danderman123]

16 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

#MakeNoiseForUkraine

 

Mapping Ukraine’s Surprise Invasion of Russia

Ukraine’s incursion into Kursk brought about one of the largest territorial changes since the first month of the war, when Russia rapidly advanced toward major Ukrainian cities. The head of Ukraine’s armed forces, Gen. Oleksandr Syrsky, has claimed that Ukraine is in control of about 490 square miles of Russian territory.
If confirmed, that would represent roughly the same amount of land that Russian forces seized in Ukraine from January through July of this year, according to the Institute for the Study of War, a Washington-based think tank.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/08/23/world/europe/ukraine-russia-kursk-invasion-map.html

https://archive.ph/cWD1F

 

 

There's additional action to the west of the region above. Ukraine has already knocked out bridges over the western Seym river, effectively isolating the Glushkova region.

[Danderman123]

36 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Yes, and Germany too has severe problems to sustain the 8 billion freebies it hands out to Ukraine and has announced it will scale that back to 50 percent less and then one tenth of it. In the US many are questioning the enormous sums poured into Ukraine. 

 

It can't continue indefinitely. Resources are limited in the West.

Compare the GDP of Russia compared to the GDP of Western Europe and tell me who is struggling.

[thaibeachlovers]

2 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Stopping Russia now avoids a larger war down the road.

You have a vivid imagination.

[Bkk Brian]

5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

You have a vivid imagination.

Irony alert, read your own posts before you start accusing others.

 

It happened to be a statement that is shared by many officials in the West by the way.

[Mavideol]

Russia-Ukraine war latest: India PM Modi visits Kyiv as Putin’s forces suffer significant losses in Kursk

 

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-russia-war-live-joint-033914158.html

[Mavideol]

kids have tantrums, guess even killers/assassins get some  555

Putin Is Having A Tantrum And Refusing To Start Peace Talks After Ukraine's Incursion

https://au.yahoo.com/news/putin-having-tantrum-refusing-start-092908156.html