Trump found guilty of 34 counts of falsifying business records

[paddypower]

17 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Too much to respond to - except - TDS much?

BUt - WTF does a prostitute's testimoney (and the others) have to do with a charge of booking errors. 

he F..(deleted) 'the prostitute' , he lied about it, he wrote it off for tax. that would p/o just about any average American, who regard paying their fair shares of taxes as being patriotic. he is the definition of an amoral, serial adulterer, rapist, thief, con man, selling bibles made of toilet-paper quality paper. what's not to like?. Biden on the other hand is weak and old. thank god I don't have to chose who to vote for between these 2.

[Danderman123]

14 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

I have read a few legal opinions and they all state that there are grounds for an Appeal - including the Judge's conduct of the trial.

The Appeal will win, the Judge will be admonished, and Trump will win the election, and the Judge will then be subjected to impreachment and found guilty and dismissed/charged.  Some Dems will support it becauser there are some rational Dems and they know is was a partisan legal sham, and they dont want the GOP doing the same thing to them in the future when they have political control.

You have an active fantasy life 

[Chomper Higgot]

32 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

I don't know that I am challenging that he was found guilty. As I've said multiple times my concern is that Trump is not again President. And there are plenty enough legal minds that are saying the same thing. That the only reasons the statutory charges fit the crime is that Judge Merchan said that they fit the crime. 

Legal minds are being paid by media outlets to say stuff that gets and keeps eyes on page.

 

The same folk who for weeks have been saying Trump will not be convicted.

[paddypower]

35 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

LOL - TDS is deep here in this thread.

 

TDS TDS TDS ....so you stu-u-u-tter, then?

[TroubleandGrumpy]

3 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

The convicted felon will likely be calling on his cult members to rise up and commit violence on his behalf, just as he did on 6 January 2021.

 

Being his goober has already landed around 480 of his cult in prison, with more to follow.

 

One wonders if any of his non-incarcerated cult recognizes that reality, and will now say, "after you, oh messiah".

 

It takes very little imagination to think that right now there are folks trying to find the names and addresses of the 12 jurors in order to make that info public and encourage violence by the convicted felon's supporters.

 

There is even a Forum member who posted a puffed up warning, saying his side has the guns, and those who oppose the felon should be afraid. Violence or its threat is what they think gives them power, when they are just becoming increasingly impotent.

BLM, Antifa, Clinton losing riots, Hamas demos in schools, etc etc ??  It is the Left that is violent.  So delusional with TDS cannot see reality.

[TroubleandGrumpy]

1 minute ago, Danderman123 said:

You have an active fantasy life 

You are a child that insults so easily when they disagree with something. Hate me too??? 

[OneMoreFarang]

23 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

I suppose you think Black people have the exact same opportunities in the judicial system as rich white guys?

 

THAT is pathetic.

 

The US has made progress, but there is still a way to go.

Maybe you missed it. The white Trump was convicted.

 

I know the USA has problems with race. But the Trump case is not one of those problems.

 

[HappyExpat57]

Well, they SAID they wanted a candidate with conviction.

 

ta da tsssssssssssss

[Walker88]

1 minute ago, Danderman123 said:

You make a lot of assertions, and provide no proof.

 

If you truly believe there was widespread voter fraud but have no proof, then you are operating on a religious belief. Which is why your fellow Trumpers aren't backing you up.

Most of them know that the fake voter fraud claims of 2020 were trash, and have forgotten them.

 

As Rudy said "We have a lot of theories, just no evidence".

 

 

Your comment is too generous.

 

Likely some still believe Hugo Chavez rose from the grave, wrote code to upload to an Italian satellite, and had that satellite alter votes on Dominion voting machines, as one of the convicted felon's crack lawyers---Sidney Powell---stated.

 

When you are dealing with that level of gullibility and idiocy, you know things like "proof" are, to them, an alien and unnecessary concept.

[TroubleandGrumpy]

5 minutes ago, paddypower said:

he F..(deleted) 'the prostitute' , he lied about it, he wrote it off for tax. that would p/o just about any average American, who regard paying their fair shares of taxes as being patriotic. he is the definition of an amoral, serial adulterer, rapist, thief, con man, selling bibles made of toilet-paper quality paper. what's not to like?. Biden on the other hand is weak and old. thank god I don't have to chose who to vote for between these 2.

TDS++ 

[Walker88]

Just now, OneMoreFarang said:

Maybe you missed it. The white Trump was convicted.

 

I know the USA has problems with race. But the Trump case is not one of those problems.

 

No, I did not miss that. Deservedly convicted.

 

If your IQ is as superior as I have seen you claim, surely you know it's a lot easier for a rich white guy to get off than a Black man.

[TroubleandGrumpy]

4 minutes ago, paddypower said:

TDS TDS TDS ....so you stu-u-u-tter, then?

More personal insults from a TDS sufferererererer

[gravity101]

34 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

simple business ledger improprieties.

Lol what. Hilarious take.

[TroubleandGrumpy]

3 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Well, they SAID they wanted a candidate with conviction.

ta da tsssssssssssss

Pay that one ........ not bad at all 🙂 

 

[Danderman123]

3 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

You are a child that insults so easily when they disagree with something. Hate me too??? 

If you think that Judge Marchan is going to be removed from his position, yeah, you are either high or drunk.

 

 

 

 

[TroubleandGrumpy]

1 minute ago, Walker88 said:

No, I did not miss that. Deservedly convicted.

 

If your IQ is as superior as I have seen you claim, surely you know it's a lot easier for a rich white guy to get off than a Black man.

Quit the race baiting !!

@Walker88 Dont respond mate.

[impulse]

20 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

I have read a few legal opinions and they all state that there are grounds for an Appeal - including the Judge's conduct of the trial.

The Appeal will win, the Judge will be admonished, and Trump will win the election, and the Judge will then be subjected to impreachment and found guilty and dismissed/charged. 

 

The appeal won't be settled before the November election.  But their real intent isn't to put Trump in prison.  It's to keep him off the ballot.  

 

[TroubleandGrumpy]

1 minute ago, Danderman123 said:

If you think that Judge Marchan is going to be removed from his position, yeah, you are either high or drunk.

Nah - that is stoner and happyexpat 

[Danderman123]

2 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

TDS++ 

Did you know that Trump was convicted today on 34 felony charges?

 

If your reaction to that is to insult a bunch of people, you have some issues.

 

How about taking responsibility? Trump did the crime, and now will suffer the consequences. It's that simple. You don't have to insult a bunch of people because you are having a sad.

[paddypower]

30 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

No mate - it all started with Clinton (Bill). The political divide has grown ever since he was impeached. Trump just woke up the right wing who had until then had remained the silent majority. Fox etc said nothiong new - they just stirred up the red necks - but the silent majority agreed. 

you are a riot. you just dissed me for referring to the terms you Americans use - right wing and left wing. Now, you use the terms 'right wing' and 'lefties' yourself. try cutting out those early morning beers, before you sign on to what most posters here would like to be an intelligent, polite debate; where both sides show respect for each other (unlike the way your hero acts in debates, bullying each of his GOP opponents with childish names).

[Danderman123]

7 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Your comment is too generous.

 

Likely some still believe Hugo Chavez rose from the grave, wrote code to upload to an Italian satellite, and had that satellite alter votes on Dominion voting machines, as one of the convicted felon's crack lawyers---Sidney Powell---stated.

 

When you are dealing with that level of gullibility and idiocy, you know things like "proof" are, to them, an alien and unnecessary concept.

@TroubleandGrumpy has swallowed the crazy claims of Rudy and the Kraken, hook, line and sinker.

[TroubleandGrumpy]

Just now, impulse said:

 

The appeal won't be settled before the November election.  But their real intent isn't to put Trump in prison.  It's to keep him off the ballot.  

 

I tend to agree that thjis was the plan. But I think Trump will pursue speedy resolution because of the elections. If that is rejected and Trump fails to get a stay of proceedings, and is then blokced from being a candidtate, then the proverbial will hit the fan. When the verdict is overturned, then the fan will be smashed over.  If Trumpo wins a stay and the verdict is over-turned before November - Trump will decimate Biden.  This aint gonna end well for the Dems however it ends. 

[Eric Loh]

Trump election bid is dire after this conviction. Presidential election is close and a marginal impact could be significant. Quinnipiac University survey found that even among Trump supporters, 6% said they would be less likely to vote for him if he was convicted. Even if the poll is as low as 4-5%, it will be enough to sink him. 
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/30/trump-guilty-verdict-polls-00160905

[TroubleandGrumpy]

2 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Did you know that Trump was convicted today on 34 felony charges?

 

If your reaction to that is to insult a bunch of people, you have some issues.

 

How about taking responsibility? Trump did the crime, and now will suffer the consequences. It's that simple. You don't have to insult a bunch of people because you are having a sad.

Did you know that Trump was convicted in a kangaroo court by a partisan system in a partisan jurisdiction (95% Dem voters) by a Dem Judge.

Do you know that the verdict will be thrown out - and the Judge - and the Dems will be forever seen as the Party that weaponised the justice system against a political opponent in a court case with extremely flimsy basis and denying the defendent witnesses and testimony.

You lefties think you have won - but you have actually lost. 

[TroubleandGrumpy]

Just now, Eric Loh said:

Trump election bid is dire after this conviction. Presidential election is close and a marginal impact could be significant. Quinnipiac University survey found that even among Trump supporters, 6% said they would be less likely to vote for him if he was convicted. Even if the poll is as low as 4-5%, it will be enough to sink him. 
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/30/trump-guilty-verdict-polls-00160905

Now the Dem media machione starts to relaease fake polls that claim what they want people to think is what they think.

They dont seem to (yet) realise that the majority of the people now know that media etc is corrupted.

Those that dounted Trump's claims about 'The Swamp' are now realising he was telling the truth. 

If Trumpo had been POTIUS for 2 terms this would never have happened - it is only being done to stop him getting a 2nd term - period.

The DA run for election on the basis that she would charge and convict Trump - in a 95% Dem county. 

[TroubleandGrumpy]

6 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

@TroubleandGrumpy has swallowed the crazy claims of Rudy and the Kraken, hook, line and sinker.

Never heard of these claims. What are they??

[paddypower]

4 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

The appeal won't be settled before the November election.  But their real intent isn't to put Trump in prison.  It's to keep him off the ballot.  

 

You're wrong. Let's get some facts into this discussion: 1. Trump can stay on the ballot. 2. he can be elected POTUS. 3. he can vote (not in NY)  but felons are allowed to vote in Florida. end of story. How come so few know so little about the American electoral system? Jeez, I'm European and half of what is written here is misguided opinions.

[Presto]

6 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Personally I don't really feel the need to see him die in prison.

I would be more satisfied if he loses the election and then flees the country to an enemy state.

Personally I'd like to see the rule of law at last take it's course, and Trump face the consequences, like anyone else.

That last bit seems to be the problem with the American legal system. Trump has gotten away with so much his whole life, it boggles the mind.

[TroubleandGrumpy]

Gotta go - wife is calling - thanks guys - it was fun.

Have a great day.

 

[Walker88]

1 minute ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

TDS++ 

Curious what the official cult line is about Stormy and Karen McDougal....did he have sex with them or not?

 

As Bill Maher says, "I don't know it for a fact; I just know it's true".

 

As I have posted previously, it was a HUGE mistake for defense to deny the Stormy tryst. The convicted felon could have gotten all weepy saying how worried he was that public knowledge would hurt his 3rd wife. The jury might have bought that (probable) lie and it might have resulted in acquittal or a hung jury.

 

Instead, it seems the jury found her so believable that prosecution did not even need to call Karen McDougal.

 

You should really lay off the continual "TDS" epithets and accusations. Those of us who oppose the convicted felon have quite good reasons for disliking him, both for his convictions and his alleged crimes, which on the surface look like slam dunks.

 

Try to subvert democracy? Bad guy.

 

Foment a terrorist attack on the US Capitol? Bad guy.

 

Steal highly classified documents that jeopardize national security and the identities of foreign clandestine intelligence assets? Bad guy.

 

Those are concrete reasons why I do not like him. Toss in his constant whining and his everyday childishness, and he is never going to win my favor nor support. His constant hyperbole and overuse of superlatives is just irritating, but the crimes and willful ignorance of what the US is meant to stand for is what sets me against him.