UN Security Council Approves US-Led Ceasefire Plan for Israel-Gaza Conflict

[Nick Carter icp]

9 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

It is discriminatory, non Jews can’t do get Israeli citizenship as easily.

 

   That is because it is a Country for Jews

[Hummin]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   That is because it is a Country for Jews

You do not even know how bad it sounds do you? 

 

The land called Isreal have used to be an metropol where many religions and coultures have trived, and I think the situation was better during the Ottaman Empire. Some historians seems to refer to a more equal period. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_Ottoman_Empire

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

You do not even know how bad it sounds do you? 

 

The land called Isreal have used to be an metropol where many religions and coultures have trived, and I think the situation was better during the Ottaman Empire. Some historians seems to refer to a more equal period. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_Ottoman_Empire

 

   History lessons just get deleted , why do you persist ?

[Jeff the Chef]

5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Do you know what percentage of Germans supported the Nazis in the 1930's ?

 

 

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   History lessons just get deleted , why do you persist ?

 

[Nick Carter icp]

8 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

 

 

  That was in reply to the claim that the Palestinians must be right because of the amount of people who support their cause on marches in Europe 

[Hummin]

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  That was in reply to the claim that the Palestinians must be right because of the amount of people who support their cause on marches in Europe 

What you do not understand, as many support the cause of Palestionians most of the same people condem Hamas terrorist attack 7. october 2023!

 

Two evil doesnt make one right!

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

What you do not understand, as many support the cause of Palestionians most of the same people condem Hamas terrorist attack 7. october 2023!

 

Two evil doesnt make one right!

 

   Hamas took hostages , Israel are trying to free those hostages .

Hamas are bad, Israel are good . 

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

What you do not understand, as many support the cause of Palestionians most of the same people condem Hamas terrorist attack 7. october 2023!

 

Two evil doesnt make one right!

Not so sure about that but a different topic:

 

Only one in four British Muslims believe Hamas committed murder and rape in Israel, report

https://aseannow.com/topic/1324354-only-one-in-four-british-muslims-believe-hamas-committed-murder-and-rape-in-israel-report/?do=findComment&comment=18825756

 

[Hummin]

55 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Not so sure about that but a different topic:

 

Only one in four British Muslims believe Hamas committed murder and rape in Israel, report

https://aseannow.com/topic/1324354-only-one-in-four-british-muslims-believe-hamas-committed-murder-and-rape-in-israel-report/?do=findComment&comment=18825756

 

They are poisonend with propaganda, and are easy target, same as many many more in this chaotic world. People belive what they choose and want to believe, and biased until, well, some still think war crimes doesnt happen in war, so, be it. 

 

 

[Danderman123]

On 6/11/2024 at 3:06 PM, Presto said:

The solution would be for Israel to go back to the pre-67 borders, and abandon all illegal settlements on the West Bank. But that will never happen.

And if they did, Hamas would still attack Israel.

[thaibeachlovers]

11 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

And if they did, Hamas would still attack Israel.

In your opinion.

[Danderman123]

7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

In your opinion.

Hamas' charter is very clear on this.

[Presto]

4 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Hamas' charter is very clear on this.

And Netanyahu is clear about his goals. I suppose in your opinion, the Palestinians have to take it lying down?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/netanyahu-brandishes-map-of-israel-that-includes-west-bank-and-gaza-at-un-speech/

[Jeff the Chef]

17 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Not so sure about that but a different topic:

 

Only one in four British Muslims believe Hamas committed murder and rape in Israel, report

https://aseannow.com/topic/1324354-only-one-in-four-british-muslims-believe-hamas-committed-murder-and-rape-in-israel-report/?do=findComment&comment=18825756

 

 

One quick look at who commissioned that report and that was enough for me.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Jackson_Society

 

The Muslim Council of Britain criticised the Society in 2017 for making "oblique references to the usual slurs levelled at Muslims: that Muslims do not integrate, are not part and parcel of British society, and are therefore likely to be terrorists".[62]

Co-founder Matthew Jamison, who now works for YouGov, wrote in 2017 that he was ashamed of his involvement, having never imagined the Henry Jackson Society "would become a far-right, deeply anti-Muslim racist ... propaganda outfit to smear other cultures, religions and ethnic groups". He claimed that "The HJS for many years has relentlessly demonised Muslims and Islam".[63]

In 2020, the Society paid damages to the UK Muslim educational channel Huda Television Ltd, having confused it in 2018 with the similarly named Egyptian station, Huda TV, which it accused of a "radical agenda" and hosting islamic extremist content.[64]

[Bkk Brian]

11 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

One quick look at who commissioned that report and that was enough for me.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Jackson_Society

 

The Muslim Council of Britain criticised the Society in 2017 for making "oblique references to the usual slurs levelled at Muslims: that Muslims do not integrate, are not part and parcel of British society, and are therefore likely to be terrorists".[62]

Co-founder Matthew Jamison, who now works for YouGov, wrote in 2017 that he was ashamed of his involvement, having never imagined the Henry Jackson Society "would become a far-right, deeply anti-Muslim racist ... propaganda outfit to smear other cultures, religions and ethnic groups". He claimed that "The HJS for many years has relentlessly demonised Muslims and Islam".[63]

In 2020, the Society paid damages to the UK Muslim educational channel Huda Television Ltd, having confused it in 2018 with the similarly named Egyptian station, Huda TV, which it accused of a "radical agenda" and hosting islamic extremist content.[64]

Its not about you though.

 

6 page topic on it, you think you are the first to discuss that.  The Poll was carried out by https://jlpartners.com/ not Henry....lol. Discuss in the topic, I will wait.

 

Its not as bad as 90% of Palestinians that believe that Hamas did not commit any atrocities against Israel civilians during its October the 7th offensive.

 

 

[Presto]

27 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Its not about you though.

 

6 page topic on it, you think you are the first to discuss that.  The Poll was carried out by https://jlpartners.com/ not Henry....lol. Discuss in the topic, I will wait.

 

Its not as bad as 90% of Palestinians that believe that Hamas did not commit any atrocities against Israel civilians during its October the 7th offensive.

 

 

How many Israelis agree with the war crimes and atrocities committed against Palestinians?

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Presto said:

How many Israelis agree with the war crimes and atrocities committed against Palestinians?

I am not Israeli and I've not seen any poll that details any evidenced war crimes, I take it you haven't either?

[Presto]

10 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

I am not Israeli and I've not seen any poll that details any evidenced war crimes, I take it you haven't either?

Afaik the only protests in Israel are against the government policies re. the hostages. And those protests are regularly suppressed.

There are no protests against Israel's war crimes, and I consider that as tacit agreement.

[Wonderyenta]

21 hours ago, Neeranam said:

It is discriminatory, non Jews can’t do get Israeli citizenship as easily.

No. Incorrect. Arabs can and do sit in the Knesset. Arabs can and do join the IDF as do many non Jewish Israelis. Israel is only discriminatory when it comes to barbarian acts of terrorism and aggression. And what nation wouldn’t discriminate against overt attacks? 

 

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, Presto said:

Afaik the only protests in Israel are against the government policies re. the hostages. And those protests are regularly suppressed.

There are no protests against Israel's war crimes, and I consider that as tacit agreement.

I consider that as tacit agreement.

 

Oh well that's it then, game set and match, no poll required. Now back to the evidenced war crimes?

 

And what exactly has this to do with the UN Security Council Approved ceasefire plan that Hamas has again added extra provisions?

[transam]

1 minute ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

That is not what the OP by Social Media posted, the source was the Telegraph, are you sure you're not a member of the IDF media team aka (false information are us)?

You are scrapping the barrel now.....

[Bkk Brian]

16 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

That is not what the OP by Social Media posted, the source was the Telegraph, are you sure you're not a member of the IDF media team aka (false information are us)?

are you sure you're not a member of the IDF media team aka (false information are us)?

 

Wrong topic again and resorting to false personal attacks. 

 

From the source OP (telegraph)

 

"The survey was carried out by J L Partners, the polling company which was founded by James Johnson, the former Downing Street pollster."

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, Jeff the Chef said:

 

What? Telling an out and out lie is ok with you then?

What lie would that be?

[Neeranam]

1 hour ago, Wonderyenta said:

No. Incorrect. Arabs can and do sit in the Knesset. Arabs can and do join the IDF as do many non Jewish Israelis. Israel is only discriminatory when it comes to barbarian acts of terrorism and aggression. And what nation wouldn’t discriminate against overt attacks? 

 

Those Arabs originally lived there, I’m talking about the discrimination in Naturalization. 

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UN Security Council Approves US-Led Ceasefire Plan for Israel-Gaza Conflict

 

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[Neeranam]

He could hardly blame Israel, could he? 🤣

 

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken told Al Jazeera he blames Hamas for the lack of agreement on a ceasefire in Gaza, stating again that Israel had accepted the UN-backed proposal but that Hamas had proposed changes to it.

https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsfeed/2024/6/13/uss-blinken-blames-hamas-for-gaza-ceasefire-deal-hold-up

[coolcarer]

6 hours ago, Neeranam said:

He could hardly blame Israel, could he? 🤣

 

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken told Al Jazeera he blames Hamas for the lack of agreement on a ceasefire in Gaza, stating again that Israel had accepted the UN-backed proposal but that Hamas had proposed changes to it.

https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsfeed/2024/6/13/uss-blinken-blames-hamas-for-gaza-ceasefire-deal-hold-up

Why do you find that funny? Hamas has made numerous change to the proposed deal, they are the ones holding things up nobody else. You have a sick sense of humor that’s for sure. 

[thaibeachlovers]

12 hours ago, Neeranam said:

He could hardly blame Israel, could he? 🤣

 

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken told Al Jazeera he blames Hamas for the lack of agreement on a ceasefire in Gaza, stating again that Israel had accepted the UN-backed proposal but that Hamas had proposed changes to it.

https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsfeed/2024/6/13/uss-blinken-blames-hamas-for-gaza-ceasefire-deal-hold-up

I've yet to see anything from netanyahu that he is accepting the deal as it was.

We know that Blinken is biased, and not a neutral party.

[Bkk Brian]

14 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I've yet to see anything from netanyahu that he is accepting the deal as it was.

We know that Blinken is biased, and not a neutral party.

We know that Blinken is biased, and not a neutral party.

 

Correct, he's biased against terrorists are you not then?

 

Hamas official tells CNN why it hasn’t accepted ceasefire plan that was approved by the UN Security Council, Hamas official says ‘no one has any idea’ how many Israeli hostages are still alive.

The fate of the 120 remaining hostages in Gaza is crucial to any deal to end the protracted and bloody conflict between Israel and Hamas. But a senior Hamas official has told CNN that “no one has an idea” how many of them are alive, and that any deal to release them must include guarantees of a permanent ceasefire and the complete withdrawal of Israeli forces from Gaza.

In an interview with CNN, Hamas spokesperson and political bureau member Osama Hamdan offered an insight into the militant group’s position on the stalled ceasefire talks, a view on whether Hamas regrets its decision to attack Israel given the mounting Palestinian death toll, and a commentary on the leak earlier this week of messages from its chief in Gaza, Yahya Sinwar, the man believed to be the ultimate decision-maker on any peace deal.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/13/middleeast/hamas-interview-israel-gaza-hostages-intl/index.html

 

[Presto]

7 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

We know that Blinken is biased, and not a neutral party.

 

Correct, he's biased against terrorists are you not then?

 

Hamas official tells CNN why it hasn’t accepted ceasefire plan that was approved by the UN Security Council, Hamas official says ‘no one has any idea’ how many Israeli hostages are still alive.

The fate of the 120 remaining hostages in Gaza is crucial to any deal to end the protracted and bloody conflict between Israel and Hamas. But a senior Hamas official has told CNN that “no one has an idea” how many of them are alive, and that any deal to release them must include guarantees of a permanent ceasefire and the complete withdrawal of Israeli forces from Gaza.

In an interview with CNN, Hamas spokesperson and political bureau member Osama Hamdan offered an insight into the militant group’s position on the stalled ceasefire talks, a view on whether Hamas regrets its decision to attack Israel given the mounting Palestinian death toll, and a commentary on the leak earlier this week of messages from its chief in Gaza, Yahya Sinwar, the man believed to be the ultimate decision-maker on any peace deal.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/13/middleeast/hamas-interview-israel-gaza-hostages-intl/index.html

 

Have you read the CNN article completely? Do you disagree with the demands of Hamas? Do you think Netanyahu has or will agree (hus rabid extreme right coalition buddies certainly won't) to a permanent ceasefire and full withdrawal of the IDF from Gaza?