How will it end?

[transam]

13 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

 Are you calling half the population of the USA maga fascists? There is no link and Putin has said he prefers your demented guy Biden.

That's what Putin says for dim people to take in................😂

[novacova]

On 6/20/2024 at 10:33 AM, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Humans are unpredictable....(I think you meant to say.)

 

No, I said humans are predictable and that’s exactly what I meant. History is a representation, human nature cannot and will not ever change. Humans will war and kill each other and lie over and over again until extinction. Very predictable.

[simon43]

I wonder if the game-changer might occur when Putin dies.  Are his lieutenants as keen to pursue this carnage as he was?

[save the frogs]

Why is Ukraine in the Euro Cup?

Is the war being blown out of proportion?

 

 

[jvs]

Lob sided poll,missing a few options.

What about"putin <deleted>s his pants and start ww3"

[Gweiloman]

17 minutes ago, transam said:

That's what Putin says for dim people to take in................😂

My prayers to multiple gods for a post with content still haven’t been answered. Maybe gods aren’t real…

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, BobBKK said:

 Are you calling half the population of the USA maga fascists? There is no link and Putin has said he prefers your demented guy Biden.

No.

30 percent.

That was a troll comment by Putin.

If you don't realize that you clearly have no credibility.

[jas007]

Probably wishful thinking on my part, but maybe it will end based on terms recently suggested by Russia.  A negotiated settlement along those lines would stop the killing, preserve what’s left of Ukraine, and keep Ukraine out of NATO.  That’s as good as it’s ever going to get for Ukraine and for the West.

 

And the alternative? WW III.  

[BobBKK]

Meanwhile, USA cluster bombs target holidaymakers on Sevastopol beach.

[BobBKK]

18 hours ago, simon43 said:

I wonder if the game-changer might occur when Putin dies.  Are his lieutenants as keen to pursue this carnage as he was?

 
Be careful what you wish for. Putin has been very controlled and restrained so far.

[ChicagoExpat]

37 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

 
Be careful what you wish for. Putin has been very controlled and restrained so far.

HA HA HA HA HA.  Man you love that guy!

[ChicagoExpat]

47 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

Meanwhile, USA cluster bombs target holidaymakers on Sevastopol beach.

Right out of Maria Zakharova's mouth!  Well done.

[BobBKK]

1 minute ago, ChicagoExpat said:

HA HA HA HA HA.  Man you love that guy!

 
I don't, and I think Russia has made many mistakes. I take a balanced view and read all sources to arrive at a reasoned conclusion. I mainly listen to Professor Sachs and Professor Mearsheimer - you have probably never heard of them.

For news, I listen to many sources: BBC, RT, Jazeera and many others.

[ChicagoExpat]

6 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

 
I don't, and I think Russia has made many mistakes. I take a balanced view and read all sources to arrive at a reasoned conclusion. I mainly listen to Professor Sachs and Professor Mearsheimer - you have probably never heard of them.

For news, I listen to many sources: BBC, RT, Jazeera and many others.

"Putin has been very controlled and restrained so far."  Who in the world would say that?   Other than using nukes, share with us how he is showing any restraint at all.

[BobBKK]

3 minutes ago, ChicagoExpat said:

"Putin has been very controlled and restrained so far."  Who in the world would say that?   Other than using nukes, share with us how he is showing any restraint at all.

 

Consider this... Ukraine, on its own, would have been defeated on day ONE. It is only because it is a proxy war for NATO that they survive this long. Putin has millions of soldiers at his disposal and has hardly begun mobilising millions more. He hasn't allowed a front from Belarus yet. He could have ordered a limited nuclear strike - thank God that hasn't happened yet, but I fear it might.

Farage is right - poking the Bear with a stick constantly is very dangerous because it will get out of control.

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

 

Consider this... Ukraine, on its own, would have been defeated on day ONE. It is only because it is a proxy war for NATO that they survive this long. Putin has millions of soldiers at his disposal and has hardly begun mobilising millions more. He hasn't allowed a front from Belarus yet. He could have ordered a limited nuclear strike - thank God that hasn't happened yet, but I fear it might.

Farage is right - poking the Bear with a stick constantly is very dangerous because it will get out of control.

Another gullible Kremlin talking point repeater.

[CharlieH]

Troll remark removed.

 

@AnotherOneHere you need to stop this type of remark.

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, BobBKK said:

Meanwhile, USA cluster bombs target holidaymakers on Sevastopol beach.

Massive distortion.

[ChicagoExpat]

9 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

 

Consider this... Ukraine, on its own, would have been defeated on day ONE. It is only because it is a proxy war for NATO that they survive this long. Putin has millions of soldiers at his disposal and has hardly begun mobilising millions more. He hasn't allowed a front from Belarus yet. He could have ordered a limited nuclear strike - thank God that hasn't happened yet, but I fear it might.

Farage is right - poking the Bear with a stick constantly is very dangerous because it will get out of control.

Bob, what you're unaware of is that on Day One -- the FULL invasion of Ukraine over many borders -- Ukraine WAS on its own.  And it held Russia off.  Russia's failure to win it's war of choice is NOT because of "restraint" -- it's because of corruption, incompetence, and inability.

[BobBKK]

5 minutes ago, ChicagoExpat said:

Bob, what you're unaware of is that on Day One -- the FULL invasion of Ukraine over many borders -- Ukraine WAS on its own.  And it held Russia off.  Russia's failure to win it's war of choice is NOT because of "restraint" -- it's because of corruption, incompetence, and inability.

 

This is untrue. Ukraine signed a deal that included Russia withdrawing, and Russia withdrew, and Ukraine reneged on that deal. Russia is gaining more and more support. This is not good for anyone.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/features/2024-05-12/china-russia-iran-have-made-ukraine-a-world-war-against-us-europe

 

[BobBKK]

10 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Massive distortion.

 Whether accidental or targeted (we don't know which for sure), it was USA-supplied CLUSTER bombs, which are banned internationally. 

[transam]

2 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

 

This is untrue. Ukraine signed a deal that included Russia withdrawing, and Russia withdrew, and Ukraine reneged on that deal. Russia is gaining more and more support. This is not good for anyone.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/features/2024-05-12/china-russia-iran-have-made-ukraine-a-world-war-against-us-europe

 

Only from people like you, wannabe Putinites, living far away from his blitzkrieg playing the toughy on a keyboard.........

You should be ashamed of yourself....

[BobBKK]

1 hour ago, transam said:

Only from people like you, wannabe Putinites, living far away from his blitzkrieg playing the toughy on a keyboard.........

You should be ashamed of yourself....

And are you at the front line? Wow, I didn't know - how brave you are, Trans, with your 88,000 posts

[AnotherOneHere]

2 hours ago, CharlieH said:

Troll remark removed.

 

@AnotherOneHere you need to stop this type of remark.

 

But the @BobBKK post is the most brainlet take on this war read to this day. If he didn't have 5k posts I would asume it is a troll account, because nobody can seriously think these things.

[CharlieH]

Lets keep it civil please with no personal remarks/attacks.

[rabas]

3 hours ago, BobBKK said:

 

This is untrue. Ukraine signed a deal that included Russia withdrawing, and Russia withdrew, and Ukraine reneged on that deal. Russia is gaining more and more support. This is not good for anyone.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/features/2024-05-12/china-russia-iran-have-made-ukraine-a-world-war-against-us-europe

 

 

What deal, agreement did Ukraine officially sign, when, and when did Russia withdraw, from where? Do have have a reference to this event?

 

[rabas]

4 hours ago, BobBKK said:

Meanwhile, USA cluster bombs target holidaymakers on Sevastopol beach.

 

This is blatantly false, neither Ukraine nor the US intentionally targeted holidaymakers on Sevastopol beach. 

 

Russia does intentionally target Ukrainian civilians nearly daily, and you remain silent. Is that not the definition of hiprocacy?

[stoner]

23 hours ago, novacova said:

On 6/19/2024 at 11:33 PM, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Humans are unpredictable....(I think you meant to say.)

 

No, I said humans are predictable and that’s exactly what I meant. History is a representation, human nature cannot and will not ever change. Humans will war and kill each other and lie over and over again until extinction. Very predictable.

 

predictable indeed...

 

https://euroweeklynews.com/2023/05/06/professional-base-jumper-alex-villar-falls-to-his-death-in-spain/

 

and of note the only other guy to do this stunt successfully...

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/uli-emanuele-basejumper-filmed-his-own-death-swiss-alps-stunt-a7201021.html

 

 

[rabas]

3 hours ago, BobBKK said:

 Whether accidental or targeted (we don't know which for sure), it was USA-supplied CLUSTER bombs, which are banned internationally. 

 

This is also false.

 

There is a voluntary convention on cluster munitions, there is no enforced international ban. Neither Russia, the United States, nor Ukraine have signed. 

 

The 16 countries that have not signed and who produce cluster munitions includ Brazil, China, Egypt, Greece, India, Iran, Israel, North Korea, Pakistan, Poland, Romania, Russia, Singapore, South Korea, Turkey and the United States.

 

The problem with cluster munitions is some don't explode. The U.S. has acknowledged humanitarian concerns and has pledged not to use any cluster munitions with a failure rate higher than 1 percent after 2018. [link] Russia has made no such commitment.

[rabas]

 

There, I cluster posted.

 

But they all hit their targets successfully.