Roo Island Posted June 20 Posted June 20 5 minutes ago, rattlesnake said: I agree. I can provide you with numerous statements by specialists, in the fields of infectious diseases, virology and vaccine development, who have negative views on the Covid response. They have been censored for four years and their views were never taken into account. What is your take on that? Bring it on. If they have been censored, it's for good reasons. 1
rattlesnake Posted June 20 Posted June 20 1 minute ago, Roo Island said: Bring it on. If they have been censored, it's for good reasons. We have now established that the prerequisite is not to be a doctor and/or scientist, but to be a doctor and/or scientist who says the things which will not get them censored. 1 1
Roo Island Posted June 20 Posted June 20 1 minute ago, rattlesnake said: We have now established that the prerequisite is not to be a doctor and/or scientist, but to be a doctor and/or scientist who says the things which will not get them censored. Link...or BS 1
rattlesnake Posted June 20 Posted June 20 6 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: There were no conspiracy theories around closing schools, it happened in most countries in the world. The fact that they are now saying it was a mistake to keep them closed for so long says what? It says they should have listened to this: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-school-districts-reopen-coronavirus-pandemic-terrible-decision/ 1
Popular Post rattlesnake Posted June 20 Popular Post Posted June 20 7 minutes ago, Roo Island said: Link...or BS For every link I would post, there would be 10 "fact checks" or Wikipedia entries asserting why it is crazy conspiracy. As you very rightly said in your previous post, censorship is always for good reason… Good reason usually decided unilaterally in a top-down manner. The same "good reason" which censored criticism of school closures or concerns that Astrazeneca vaccines can cause blood clots. 2 1 1
Bkk Brian Posted June 20 Posted June 20 2 hours ago, rattlesnake said: It says they should have listened to this: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-school-districts-reopen-coronavirus-pandemic-terrible-decision/ Like I said, no conspiracy theories. "Anthony Fauci, who led the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases throughout the pandemic, said the decision to close schools was correct – but they should have reopened sooner." https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/06/19/us-covid-anthony-fauci-one-year-schools-closure-mistake/ https://archive.ph/nlDpt 1 1
Popular Post john donson Posted June 21 Popular Post Posted June 21 why this dude is not in prison for mass fraud and death of millions of people lab leak, illegal involvement in the gain of function, lying to congress, getting 'royalties' for live for lying, cheating 2 1
placeholder Posted June 21 Posted June 21 28 minutes ago, john donson said: why this dude is not in prison for mass fraud and death of millions of people lab leak, illegal involvement in the gain of function, lying to congress, getting 'royalties' for live for lying, cheating Got any actual evidence to support your claim that Fauci committed crimes? I doubt it. Your nonsense about royalites for instance. By law, NIH researchers are allowed to receive royalties for research they do. Most of the royalties actually go directly to the government. https://www.science.org/content/article/bad-math-nih-researchers-didn-t-pocket-710-million-royalties-during-pandemic 1
Popular Post riclag Posted June 21 Popular Post Posted June 21 (edited) 2 hours ago, john donson said: why this dude is not in prison for mass fraud and death of millions of people lab leak, illegal involvement in the gain of function, lying to congress, getting 'royalties' for live for lying, cheating You can help stop the spread by getting the vaccine! Fauci & Mayor of DC go spreading disinformation . Start watching the door to door knocking from 2:30 on.The guy towards the end shut the fear mongers of fauci & bowers down, they walked away with their tails between their legs. Edited June 21 by riclag 2 1
nauseus Posted June 21 Posted June 21 10 hours ago, Roo Island said: Bring it on. If they have been censored, it's for good reasons. What would they be?
nauseus Posted June 21 Posted June 21 10 hours ago, Roo Island said: Link...or BS pot calling..... ..
placeholder Posted June 21 Posted June 21 10 hours ago, rattlesnake said: I agree. I can provide you with numerous statements by specialists, in the fields of infectious diseases, virology and vaccine development, who have negative views on the Covid response. They have been censored for four years and their views were never taken into account. What is your take on that? A pity that reality has proven these alleged experts wrong. The data on the actual results of covid vaccination is overwhelmingly positive. 1 1 1
johng Posted June 21 Posted June 21 Fauci diagnoses Schizophrenia !! and how Ironic to see a very recent study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38806183/ A potential association between COVID-19 vaccination and development of alzheimer's disease 1 1
nauseus Posted June 21 Posted June 21 23 minutes ago, riclag said: You can help stop the spread by getting the vaccine! Fauci & Mayor of DC go spreading disinformation . Start watching the door to door knocking from 2:30 on.The guy towards the end shut the fear mongers of fauci & bowers down, they walked away with their tails between their legs. June 2021 and he still didn't know FA!!? 1
nauseus Posted June 21 Posted June 21 6 minutes ago, placeholder said: A pity that reality has proven these alleged experts wrong. The data on the actual results of covid vaccination is overwhelmingly positive. And some of the data is outright frightening. The guy at 4:55 was spot on. 1 1
Roo Island Posted June 21 Posted June 21 10 hours ago, rattlesnake said: For every link I would post, there would be 10 "fact checks" or Wikipedia entries asserting why it is crazy conspiracy. As you very rightly said in your previous post, censorship is always for good reason… Good reason usually decided unilaterally in a top-down manner. The same "good reason" which censored criticism of school closures or concerns that Astrazeneca vaccines can cause blood clots. Link? Or BS... 1
johng Posted June 21 Posted June 21 10 hours ago, rattlesnake said: be a doctor and/or scientist who says the things which will not get them censored. There were a few at the beginning speaking out and to their credit are still speaking out despite being threatened with their medical licence,censored,defamed de-bunked and called fringe conspiracy theorists..bravo to all those who spoke out. Now a few years later there are also others that were all for the "treatments" but have since changed their tune after they themself or someone they know was injured somehow they too are now "fringe" 🤢 1 1
Roo Island Posted June 21 Posted June 21 30 minutes ago, riclag said: You can help stop the spread by getting the vaccine! Fauci & Mayor of DC go spreading disinformation . Start watching the door to door knocking from 2:30 on.The guy towards the end shut the fear mongers of fauci & bowers down, they walked away with their tails between their legs. Sad times when some don't understand science and don't listen to doctors. Vaccine hesitancy killed thousands. I could put up dozens of these. Social media. One of the top problems in society today. https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/09/09/1035489298/tiktok-covid-vaccination-megan-blankenbiller-hospital Before Dying, An Unvaccinated TikTok User Begged Others Not to Repeat Her Mistake
Roo Island Posted June 21 Posted June 21 17 minutes ago, nauseus said: What would they be? Misinformation 1
rattlesnake Posted June 21 Posted June 21 7 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: Like I said, no conspiracy theories. "Anthony Fauci, who led the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases throughout the pandemic, said the decision to close schools was correct – but they should have reopened sooner." https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/06/19/us-covid-anthony-fauci-one-year-schools-closure-mistake/ https://archive.ph/nlDpt The point I was making was that those who voiced criticism of lockdowns were censored, in the name of the fight against "conspiracy theories" or "disinformation". Therefore, it is notable when those who were at the helm of this censorship end up de facto admitting that the people they censored were actually right. Mark Zuckerberg Says Facebook Censored ‘True’ Covid Claims at Request of Health Establishment Mark Zuckerberg, the CEO of Facebook parent company Meta, said in a recent interview that the scientific “establishment” asked the social media site to censor “misinformation” related to Covid-19 that ultimately turned out to be true. https://www.nationalreview.com/news/mark-zuckerberg-says-facebook-censored-true-covid-claims-at-request-of-health-establishment/ 1 1
Roo Island Posted June 21 Posted June 21 16 minutes ago, nauseus said: pot calling..... .. I always put up links backing my comments. You, not so much. 1 1
Popular Post Roo Island Posted June 21 Popular Post Posted June 21 2 minutes ago, johng said: There were a few at the beginning speaking out and to their credit are still speaking out despite being threatened with their medical licence,censored,defamed de-bunked and called fringe conspiracy theorists..bravo to all those who spoke out. Now a few years later there are also others that were all for the "treatments" but have since changed their tune after they themself or someone they know was injured somehow they too are now "fringe" 🤢 Link? Most who were censored was done because they pushed misinformation. Which killed thousands 1 2
Roo Island Posted June 21 Posted June 21 1 minute ago, rattlesnake said: The point I was making was that those who voiced criticism of lockdowns were censored, in the name of the fight against "conspiracy theories" or "disinformation". Therefore, it is notable when those who were at the helm of this censorship end up de facto admitting that the people they censored were actually right. Mark Zuckerberg Says Facebook Censored ‘True’ Covid Claims at Request of Health Establishment Mark Zuckerberg, the CEO of Facebook parent company Meta, said in a recent interview that the scientific “establishment” asked the social media site to censor “misinformation” related to Covid-19 that ultimately turned out to be true. https://www.nationalreview.com/news/mark-zuckerberg-says-facebook-censored-true-covid-claims-at-request-of-health-establishment/ Zuckerberg only cares about making money. Hardly a credible source. https://www.npr.org/2021/07/13/1015483097/an-ugly-truth-how-facebook-enables-hate-and-disinformation Reporters Reveal 'Ugly Truth' Of How Facebook Enables Hate Groups And Disinformation 1
Bkk Brian Posted June 21 Posted June 21 4 minutes ago, rattlesnake said: The point I was making was that those who voiced criticism of lockdowns were censored, in the name of the fight against "conspiracy theories" or "disinformation". Therefore, it is notable when those who were at the helm of this censorship end up de facto admitting that the people they censored were actually right. Mark Zuckerberg Says Facebook Censored ‘True’ Covid Claims at Request of Health Establishment Mark Zuckerberg, the CEO of Facebook parent company Meta, said in a recent interview that the scientific “establishment” asked the social media site to censor “misinformation” related to Covid-19 that ultimately turned out to be true. https://www.nationalreview.com/news/mark-zuckerberg-says-facebook-censored-true-covid-claims-at-request-of-health-establishment/ Still waiting for you to connect the below. "Anthony Fauci, who led the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases throughout the pandemic, said the decision to close schools was correct – but they should have reopened sooner." 2
rattlesnake Posted June 21 Posted June 21 2 minutes ago, Roo Island said: Zuckerberg only cares about making money. Hardly a credible source. https://www.npr.org/2021/07/13/1015483097/an-ugly-truth-how-facebook-enables-hate-and-disinformation Reporters Reveal 'Ugly Truth' Of How Facebook Enables Hate Groups And Disinformation You are completely missing the point. Facebook complied to government-steered censorship, which was multifaceted. Another example from the UK: Ministers' had 'chilling' secret unit to curb lockdown dissent https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/government-secret-unit-covid-lockdown-b2350647.html 1 1
Popular Post rattlesnake Posted June 21 Popular Post Posted June 21 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: Still waiting for you to connect the below. "Anthony Fauci, who led the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases throughout the pandemic, said the decision to close schools was correct – but they should have reopened sooner." Okay, I will simplify to the extreme. 2020-2021: Government says "close schools for most of the year". Critics say "it will do more harm than good, they should be reopened". Government says "it is anti-science speech and misinformation". 2024: Government says "we should not have closed schools for most of the year". 1 1 1
Popular Post Screaming Posted June 21 Popular Post Posted June 21 https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2024/06/05/fauci-hearing-covid-social-distancing-wrong/73962967007/ Fauci confessed that COVID guidelines were made up. This guy is a liar and cannot be trusted. 1 1 1 1
Popular Post johng Posted June 21 Popular Post Posted June 21 3 minutes ago, Roo Island said: Link? Most who were censored was done because they pushed misinformation. Which killed thousands Enough rubbish Mr linky man BTW I gave you a laughing emoji yes farcical. You know full well that many were censored and are still censored, just because you agree with censorship does not make it right. soon enough they will be censoring something you care about for some spurious reason...well maybe not as you agree with everything they say anyway ? And were is your link to the "misinformation. Which killed thousands" kettle black 1 1 1 1
Bkk Brian Posted June 21 Posted June 21 5 minutes ago, rattlesnake said: Okay, I will simplify to the extreme. 2020-2021: Government says "close schools for most of the year". Critics say "it will do more harm than good, they should be reopened". Government says "it is anti-science speech and misinformation". 2024: Government says "we should not have closed schools for most of the year". Let me dumb it down even further: Your initial post: "That's the interview where Fauci finally admits that closing schools for a year during Covid was a mistake. It only took Mister I Am The Science 4 years to admit that 'conspiracy theorists' (and Trump) were right." You reference to Conspiracy theorists is nothing to do with the statement made by Fauci. That's you trying to make something of nothing. 1
rattlesnake Posted June 21 Posted June 21 2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Let me dumb it down even further: Your initial post: "That's the interview where Fauci finally admits that closing schools for a year during Covid was a mistake. It only took Mister I Am The Science 4 years to admit that 'conspiracy theorists' (and Trump) were right." You reference to Conspiracy theorists is nothing to do with the statement made by Fauci. That's you trying to make something of nothing. And your response was: There were no conspiracy theories around closing schools, it happened in most countries in the world. The fact that they are now saying it was a mistake to keep them closed for so long says what? You thought I was referring to an actual conspiracy, when I was only referring to the term "conspiracy theorist" and its use as a lever of censorship. This initial misunderstanding has led you astray in your subsequent interpretations. 1 1
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