Popular Post Social Media Posted Sunday at 08:35 PM Popular Post Share Posted Sunday at 08:35 PM In the weeks leading up to the Republican National Convention, the Trump campaign has found itself grappling with an unexpected internal threat from within its own ranks. This issue emerged most prominently during a recent gathering of Arizona delegates in a Phoenix suburb. What was meant to be a routine meeting for delegates to familiarize themselves with their responsibilities instead became the setting for a clandestine plot aimed at disrupting Donald Trump’s nomination. At this meeting, a group of delegates identifying as staunch "America First" supporters proposed a secret plan to break free from their pledge to support Trump. Unlike previous attempts to thwart Trump by "Never Trumpers," this effort originated from the far-right faction within his base. According to people present at the meeting and others briefed on it, these delegates discussed using covert signals, such as wearing matching black jackets, to identify one another. The precise aim of this plot remains ambiguous. Some speculate it could be an effort to block a vice-presidential pick deemed undesirable by the far-right faction. Others suggest the goal might be to position former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn as a substitute nominee if Trump were to face incarceration. Among the far-right, there is a growing suspicion that Trump has surrounded himself with advisers loyal to the so-called "deep state," fueling these internal machinations. The Trump campaign, perceiving this scheme as an "existential threat," acted swiftly to replace the dissenting delegates. A campaign staffer involved in addressing the situation described it to some Republicans as the "only process that would prevent Trump from being the nominee." The urgency and seriousness with which the campaign addressed this issue underscore the potential impact such an internal revolt could have on the convention. This episode in Arizona has broader implications for the upcoming convention in Milwaukee, where around 5,000 delegates and alternates are expected to participate. Many of these delegates are influenced by the same falsehoods and baseless accusations that animate much of Trump’s supporter base. The incident has sparked memories of the 2016 Republican convention, which briefly descended into chaos during an attempt by Trump’s opponents to derail his nomination. Suspicions have also spread among Trump supporters that covert saboteurs might have infiltrated their ranks. At the Georgia GOP convention in May, for instance, a would-be delegate withdrew after being accused of lobbying for Dominion Voting Systems, a company frequently targeted by false claims of fraud in the 2020 election. Intra-party conflicts have become a significant issue within the Republican Party. Illinois Republican Party Chairman Don Tracy recently resigned, lamenting that "we have Republicans who would rather fight other Republicans than engage in the harder work of defeating incumbent Democrats by convincing swing voters to vote Republican." This sentiment highlights the internal struggles that have distracted the party from its broader electoral goals. The financial motivations behind these internal conflicts cannot be overlooked. Some Republicans involved in these discussions believe that certain activists profit from the turmoil surrounding election integrity claims. One Republican suggested that these activists "really don’t want us to win" and instead "make money when we lose." The specific plot in Arizona was led by Shelby Busch, chair of the state delegation and founder of the We the People AZ Alliance. This group has raised nearly $1 million and is closely aligned with Senate candidate Kari Lake, funded largely by entities linked to prominent election deniers like Flynn and former Overstock.com executive Patrick Byrne. Byrne recently suggested on social media that Trump’s advisers are deep-state operatives and that "his VP needs to be a General," tagging Flynn’s profile in the post. The June meeting in Arizona included a presentation by delegate Joe Neglia, detailing a maneuver to suspend the convention’s rules and take control of the proceedings from the floor. When the Trump campaign learned of this plan, they collaborated with local party officials to recruit new delegates to replace those involved in the plot. The campaign’s memo described the leaders of this group as being engaged in a "multi-state conspiracy to suspend the rules at the national convention." Despite the campaign’s efforts to replace the dissenting delegates, Busch’s group responded by accusing those challenging them of being part of an "anti-Trump establishment group." They argued that the challenge was an attempt to sabotage Trump from within his own campaign and the Republican National Committee. In a statement, Busch’s group claimed that the Arizona grassroots patriots overwhelmingly supported their delegation because of their unwavering support for Trump, even if he were to be incarcerated. Ultimately, an agreement was reached between Busch’s bloc and the Trump campaign. Neglia agreed to step aside, the other delegates could remain, and there would be no revolt on the convention floor. While this resolution defused the immediate threat, it left some volunteer replacements feeling jilted. These volunteers had stepped up to support the campaign, only to be cast aside after the agreement was reached. Campaign political director James Blair attempted to smooth things over by publicly thanking the replacements for their service and praising their loyalty to Trump. He emphasized that the convention should remain focused on celebrating Trump’s nomination, warning against any distractions that could arise from internal conflicts. "It’s not just a question of loyal Trump support, it’s willingness to not do anything that could distract from the historic nomination and celebration of President Trump, which is a four-day commercial," a campaign official said. In the end, the Arizona Republican Party chair had to step in to manage the internal discord among the delegation. "I’m closing the thread," the chair posted in a private chat, signaling the need to focus on unity and function as a team. Credit: Wasgington Post 2024-06-24 Get our Daily Newsletter - Click HERE to subscribe 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bendejo Posted Sunday at 09:35 PM Popular Post Share Posted Sunday at 09:35 PM I'm expecting some heated, possibly violent, confrontations at the GOP convention next month. For the past 2 years or so Flynn has been touring the US with a road show that is a combination Christian revival and a brand of patriotic zeal that goes beyond extreme right-wing. Michael Flynn: From Government Insider to Holy Warrior Strictly my opinion: if DT manages to get back into the WH in January, and he doesn't put Flynn in prison or drive him out of the country (one way or another) there will eventually be something of a palace coup, with DT confined to his golf course and the US gets a true Christian nationalist dictatorship. The GOP members in gov't that are licking DT's shoes will no longer be afraid of the MAGA loonies but rather Flynn's soldiers, and will have some different boots to slobber over. Should this come to be, anticipate a Pentagon-based military coup. This just out today: Michael Flynn Has Turned His Trump-World Celebrity Into a Family Business 1 1 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blazes Posted Monday at 12:51 AM Popular Post Share Posted Monday at 12:51 AM Much ado about nothing as usual. Par for the course in all political parties. The real problem, no matter who wins the election, will be dealing with the financial collapse which is almost upon us. Whether it's Biden/Harris or Trump/MiniTrump, the Deep State will have to attempt a rescue by the time-honoured method of throwing money at it, as they did in 1997/98, 2008/9, and throughout the last decade of money-printing, right up to date with the Silicon Valley bailouts of March 2023. Good luck, voters! 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cryingdick Posted Monday at 12:54 AM Popular Post Share Posted Monday at 12:54 AM 3 hours ago, bendejo said: I'm expecting some heated, possibly violent, confrontations at the GOP convention next month. For the past 2 years or so Flynn has been touring the US with a road show that is a combination Christian revival and a brand of patriotic zeal that goes beyond extreme right-wing. Michael Flynn: From Government Insider to Holy Warrior Strictly my opinion: if DT manages to get back into the WH in January, and he doesn't put Flynn in prison or drive him out of the country (one way or another) there will eventually be something of a palace coup, with DT confined to his golf course and the US gets a true Christian nationalist dictatorship. The GOP members in gov't that are licking DT's shoes will no longer be afraid of the MAGA loonies but rather Flynn's soldiers, and will have some different boots to slobber over. Should this come to be, anticipate a Pentagon-based military coup. This just out today: Michael Flynn Has Turned His Trump-World Celebrity Into a Family Business I anticipate that the dem convention will have much more serious issues in that regard. There is talk they won't even hold one except for a virtual event, 1 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted Monday at 01:24 AM Popular Post Share Posted Monday at 01:24 AM 27 minutes ago, Cryingdick said: I anticipate that the dem convention will have much more serious issues in that regard. There is talk they won't even hold one except for a virtual event, Naaa they will be celebrating the outstanding stock market the outstanding job #s the getting a handle on inflation sorry but your canard is doa 3 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cryingdick Posted Monday at 01:26 AM Popular Post Share Posted Monday at 01:26 AM 1 minute ago, Tug said: Naaa they will be celebrating the outstanding stock market the outstanding job #s the getting a handle on inflation sorry but your canard is doa Back in the real world there are realistic concerns of massive protests in Chicago should the dem convention take place there. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted Monday at 01:32 AM Popular Post Share Posted Monday at 01:32 AM 37 minutes ago, Cryingdick said: I anticipate that the dem convention will have much more serious issues in that regard. There is talk they won't even hold one except for a virtual event, But but but… whatabout. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cryingdick Posted Monday at 01:35 AM Popular Post Share Posted Monday at 01:35 AM Just now, Chomper Higgot said: But but but… whatabout. I was actually replying to a post that suggested the GOP convention would face protests. That was actually news to me. Next time if you are going to take the time to engage me or the content i create please at least make it something worthy of thought. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted Monday at 01:37 AM Popular Post Share Posted Monday at 01:37 AM Google ‘Walkout Trump Rally’, see what comes up. His base is crumbling. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cryingdick Posted Monday at 01:38 AM Popular Post Share Posted Monday at 01:38 AM Just now, Chomper Higgot said: Google ‘Walkout Trump Rally’, see what comes up. His base is crumbling. From the river to the sea, genocide Joe has got to go, death to America type stuff? 2 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted Monday at 01:40 AM Popular Post Share Posted Monday at 01:40 AM 1 minute ago, Cryingdick said: From the river to the sea, genocide Joe has got to go, death to America type stuff? Yet more off topic whataboutary, with added baseless slurs. 3 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cryingdick Posted Monday at 01:40 AM Popular Post Share Posted Monday at 01:40 AM That makes up the dem base. They are scared of their own constituents . 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted Monday at 01:42 AM Share Posted Monday at 01:42 AM Just now, Chomper Higgot said: Yet more off topic whataboutary, with added baseless slurs. I am just talking about what might occur at different political venues. One is the gop in Milwaukee and one is the dem in Chicago. I would be very surprised if the conventi9n in Milwaukee' is diruoted or undermined. None of this is on topics anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pomchop Posted Monday at 01:50 AM Popular Post Share Posted Monday at 01:50 AM So IF Biden were to win in a landslide with both popular vote and the electoral vote solidly in his favor...like last time... will trump and the maga bunch shut up and slink away? Or will it be more whine whine whine about how it was all rigged and so very unfair and here we go again? What a pathetic bunch of whining losers. If a soccer, hockey,baseball, football,basketball, track, wrestling, boxing,little league, pee wee league, spelling bee, team or player etc whined like trumpers for years when they get beat rather than shake the opponents hand and say good game they would be booed off the stage. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post klauskunkel Posted Monday at 01:59 AM Popular Post Share Posted Monday at 01:59 AM 5 hours ago, Social Media said: these delegates discussed using covert signals, such as wearing matching black jackets, to identify one another that's some outstanding clandestine intelligence work, this effort must have ruptured a synapse or two from overwork black jackets... 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted Monday at 02:21 AM Share Posted Monday at 02:21 AM 21 minutes ago, klauskunkel said: that's some outstanding clandestine intelligence work, this effort must have ruptured a synapse or two from overwork black jackets... i didn't even notice that part. lol did Austin Powers show up? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted Monday at 02:38 AM Share Posted Monday at 02:38 AM Just a, perhaps unwanted, bit of advice for this faction in the Republican Party which allegedly wishes to remove Mr Trump. Don't hold any weekend conventions in lakeside resorts, you may have some unwelcome visitors around dawn... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted Monday at 02:56 AM Share Posted Monday at 02:56 AM 1 hour ago, Cryingdick said: Back in the real world there are realistic concerns of massive protests in Chicago should the dem convention take place there. Whatever happens at the DNC convention will be reported by Fox, Russia Today, Sinclair and OAN as a disaster. Their reporting doesn't get any more predictable than that. Try some other news sources, then tell us which party is in a shambles. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted Monday at 03:00 AM Share Posted Monday at 03:00 AM 3 minutes ago, bendejo said: Whatever happens at the DNC convention will be reported by Fox, Russia Today, Sinclair and OAN as a disaster. Their reporting doesn't get any more predictable than that. Try some other news sources, then tell us which party is in a shambles. The same could be said of the GOP convention in Milwaukee. Whats your point? 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoner Posted Monday at 03:00 AM Share Posted Monday at 03:00 AM 1 hour ago, pomchop said: What a pathetic bunch of whining losers. If a soccer, hockey,baseball, football,basketball, track, wrestling, boxing,little league, pee wee league, spelling bee, team or player etc whined like trumpers for years when they get beat rather than shake the opponents hand and say good game they would be booed off the stage. hahah good one i laughed so hard. hillary is still on the i should of been tour. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted Monday at 03:01 AM Share Posted Monday at 03:01 AM 21 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said: Just a, perhaps unwanted, bit of advice for this faction in the Republican Party which allegedly wishes to remove Mr Trump. Don't hold any weekend conventions in lakeside resorts, you may have some unwelcome visitors around dawn... Is this a reference to something depicted in Visconti's "The Damned"? if so, bravo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted Monday at 03:56 AM Share Posted Monday at 03:56 AM 49 minutes ago, bendejo said: Is this a reference to something depicted in Visconti's "The Damned"? if so, bravo! I am flattered so thank you, that is an excellent if challenging film. However I am rather thinking of the "Night of the Long Knives" in June 1934, and in particular the SS raid on Ernst Rohms lakeside "resort weekend" at Bad Weissee in Bavaria! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted Monday at 04:45 AM Share Posted Monday at 04:45 AM 47 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said: I am flattered so thank you, that is an excellent if challenging film. However I am rather thinking of the "Night of the Long Knives" in June 1934, and in particular the SS raid on Ernst Rohms lakeside "resort weekend" at Bad Weissee in Bavaria! Yes, that is the event depicted in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John Drake Posted Monday at 04:51 AM Popular Post Share Posted Monday at 04:51 AM 3 hours ago, Cryingdick said: I anticipate that the dem convention will have much more serious issues in that regard. There is talk they won't even hold one except for a virtual event, This article is basically a conspiracy theory complaining about conspiracy theories. I used to attend lots o Democratic conventions as a delegate back in the 1970s. The sort of things this topic describes are routine convention politics. And frankly it would be a good thing to see Trump ousted at the Republican convention through whatever the rules allow. As for the Democrats, their party has its separate strands now fighting each other in the street. Quote Footage circulating on X, formally known as Twitter, showed a violent pro-Palestinian protest that broke out on Sunday between pro-Palestinian protestors and Jews outside of a Los Angeles synagogue. The video, posted on the X account of Kan News, showed pro-Palestinian protestors wearing keffiyehs and carrying Palestinian flags as they hit and attacked visibly observant Jews. https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-807411 I wouldn't be surprised to see Biden's antifa, Jews, and Muslims go after each other with guns in the street by convention time. The Democrats are becoming increasingly violent. 1 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdey Posted Monday at 05:57 AM Share Posted Monday at 05:57 AM Biden is only standing because Trump is standing. Replace both. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John Drake Posted Monday at 06:48 AM Popular Post Share Posted Monday at 06:48 AM 50 minutes ago, Purdey said: Biden is only standing because Trump is standing. Replace both. Or vote RFKjr 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted Monday at 08:01 AM Popular Post Share Posted Monday at 08:01 AM 4 hours ago, stoner said: hahah good one i laughed so hard. hillary is still on the i should of been tour. It's Trump who claimed the 2016 election had been rigged by massive fraud. Before and after the election. 😀 Not Hillary! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoner Posted Monday at 11:19 AM Share Posted Monday at 11:19 AM 3 hours ago, candide said: It's Trump who claimed the 2016 election had been rigged by massive fraud. Before and after the election. 😀 Not Hillary! ok. if you say so. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted Monday at 12:06 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:06 PM 42 minutes ago, stoner said: ok. if you say so. Are you really so uninformed? He was so upset Hillary won the popular vote that he claimed there had been millions of illegal votes, and he officially created an investigation committee in 2017! 😀 Report: Trump commission did not find widespread voter fraud https://apnews.com/article/f5f6a73b2af546ee97816bb35e82c18d 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoner Posted Monday at 12:14 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:14 PM 5 minutes ago, candide said: Are you really so uninformed? He was so upset Hillary won the popular vote that he claimed there had been millions of illegal votes, and he officially created an investigation committee in 2017! 😀 Report: Trump commission did not find widespread voter fraud https://apnews.com/article/f5f6a73b2af546ee97816bb35e82c18d are you done foaming at the mouth now ? i wasn't debating what trump said. i merely pointed out hillary has been going around for years and years crying about it all.....which is just the same as the bad man did. get it yet ? another case of octd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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