Does the USA really always get its man?

[spidermike007]

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

They didnt get Castro

They are not very good at putting away, or eliminating the really bad guys. Too bad. Some of us might even volunteer for the task. There are alot of bad players on the world stage these days.

[Hummin]

6 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

They are not very good at putting away, or eliminating the really bad guys. Too bad. Some of us might even volunteer for the task. There are alot of bad players on the world stage these days.

Us made a good task in punishing Cuba for trying to protect their sovereign rights and independency. 

Edited June 26 by Hummin

[spidermike007]

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

Not all Democrats are leftists.

Thank you so much for the credit. I really like you acknowledging that I am not a communist. Some of your partisans are not quite as generous. I recently posted something critical of Trump on another forum. Here is an example of one of the replies. And I am thin skinned? Ha!

 

You mean like the EXTREMELY thin skinned, racist, pedophile piece of fascist followers of the America-hating democrat agenda? You mean like that?

 

Jeez. What can one even say to such blabber?

[spidermike007]

5 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Us made a good task in punishing Cuba for trying to protect their sovereign rights and independency. 

The US embargo of Cuba has always been a travesty, and a rather arrogant and poorly intentioned move. It hurt the Cuban people, not it's horrific, multi billionaire, drug running leaders.

[Acharn]

17 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Not all Democrats are leftists.

Not since the Democratic Leadership Council and Bill Clinton, anyway. I'd say the party leadership is mostly neoconservative now.

[Yellowtail]

9 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Thank you so much for the credit. I really like you acknowledging that I am not a communist. Some of your partisans are not quite as generous.

I have no idea if you are a communist or not. 

 

I seem to see a whole lot of condemnation and name-calling and whatnot from your side as well. 

9 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I recently posted something critical of Trump on another forum. Here is an example of one of the replies. And I am thin skinned? Ha!

 

You mean like the EXTREMELY thin skinned, racist, pedophile piece of fascist followers of the America-hating democrat agenda? You mean like that?

I don't know if you're thin-skinned of not, but it does not look like they were talking about you specifically, so there's that. 

9 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Jeez. What can one even say to such blabber?

Ask them for a link, is that not SOP? 

[Yellowtail]

3 minutes ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

weak minds are easily miseld...hence maga and the GOP 101 playbook of fear politics as its the only way they can win anything

That's why it's so important for the left to control education and shut down free speech. 

[Woof999]

20 hours ago, SoCal1990 said:

Assange just walked a free man and they fought tooth and nail to get him for nearly a decade and failed. They also didn't get Snowden, who still lives a free man now and at the courtesy of one of the USA's greatest enemies.

 

Assange has spent more than 10 years in some kind of pergatory. 7 years living in an embassy and then 5 years in jail. Snowden not quite as long but not far off. He was stuck in a Moscow airport for about a month and has lost everything he had in his previous life, likely never to regain it.

 

You might say that the US didn't get their men, but they sure helped (with other nations involved too) feck their lives up for a significant period of time.

[Purdey]

3 hours ago, Purdey said:

If it is true that Assange will plead guilty in an American court and will be sentenced to time served in the UK, then he didn't escape. Plus, I am not sure the Americans are trustworthy enough not to incarcerate him for another 20 years once he is on their soil. 

Just read he has been freed by the court after pleading guilty. Good for him, bad for journalism.

[RSD1]

A few more of the baddies that they got over the years:

 

Madoff

Milken 

Epstein

[jesimps]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Gotta love how you guys make incredible generalizations of what is estimated to be 49% of registered voters in the US. And we are all also communist, love Marxist ideology, are not patriotic, are anti-American because we are critical of Trump, worship celebrities, and many of us eat babies and drink their blood.

 

Way to go. Keep up the harmony creation, and make America great again with hatred and division.

Apart from eating babies and drinking their blood, you got my view of Dems spot on Mike. Don't know how there are enough of you to win an election in the US though, thought you were all here.

[RSD1]

3 minutes ago, jesimps said:

Apart from eating babies and drinking their blood, you got my view of Dems spot on Mike. Don't know how there are enough of you to win an election in the US though, thought you were all here.

You have the democrats and the republicans. And then you have that whacko criminal Trump and his band of kool-aid gulping ninnies. Nobody from the first two groups like either of the second two. 

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, RSD1 said:

You have the democrats and the republicans. And then you have that whacko criminal Trump and his band of kool-aid gulping ninnies. Nobody from the first two groups like either of the second two. 

90% of Republicans support Trump. 

[stoner]

3 minutes ago, RSD1 said:

You have the democrats and the republicans. And then you have that whacko criminal Trump and his band of kool-aid gulping ninnies. Nobody from the first two groups like either of the second two. 

 

who is the 4th group though. dems and repubs are 1 and 2. then trump ninnies as you put it are 3. but who is 4th that falls into the second two.

[Yellowtail]

Just now, stoner said:

 

who is the 4th group though. dems and repubs are 1 and 2. then trump ninnies as you put it are 3. but who is 4th that falls into the second two.

I think he counts Trump as a group...

[impulse]

3 hours ago, SoCal1990 said:

Stay in jail in solitary confinement for the rest of your life or sign a piece of paper that says something that you don't agree with and you go free. No brainer isn't it?

 

If only it were that simple.  I suspect Trump got a bump in the polls when he suggested he may pardon Assange.  Team Biden immediately decided to take that arrow out of Trump's quiver.  I suspect he'd still be fighting extradition if it wasn't an election year.  And I'm pretty sure he'll survive through election day, but I'm not too keen on his long term odds of dying from old age.  I hope he has a solid steel deadman switch.

 

[GroveHillWanderer]

21 hours ago, SoCal1990 said:

The phrase the "USA always gets its man" is not really true, is it? 

It's not a phrase to start with, so on that basis alone, I'd say it's hardly likely to be true.

 

For instance, a Google search for that phrase brings up precisely zero results.

[gamb00ler]

20 hours ago, cdemundo said:

It's the RCMP that always get their man.

I managed to slip through their fingers a few times when I was young and pot was illegal.

[john donson]

10 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Lyndon Johnson and the democraptic cabal at the time... Hilary is one of his disciples 

 

second that

 

he wanted a war with vietnam for... well the same people that get all the hundreds of billions at every war ... military industrial complex

 

for me, they play turn with big pharma, that was allowed to make hundreds of billions...

 

so after ukraine, another pandemic ?

[spidermike007]

1 hour ago, jesimps said:

Apart from eating babies and drinking their blood, you got my view of Dems spot on Mike. Don't know how there are enough of you to win an election in the US though, thought you were all here.

Funny. I can't get enough baby blood. 

 

I predict Huge Don will lose by 9 million popular votes, and at least 10-20 electoral votes. 

[RSD1]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

Team Biden immediately decided to take that arrow out of Trump's quiver.  I suspect he'd still be fighting extradition if it wasn't an election year.

Only maybe. 

[RSD1]

20 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I predict Huge Don will lose by 9 million popular votes, and at least 10-20 electoral votes. 

Huge Dong*

[Yellowtail]

23 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Funny. I can't get enough baby blood. 

 

I predict Huge Don will lose by 9 million popular votes, and at least 10-20 electoral votes. 

I hope you're wrong. (on both) 

[ChristianBlessing]

On 6/25/2024 at 8:09 PM, Yellowtail said:

I think the phrase it the Mounties always get their man, not the US. I have also heard it "Rangers always get their man. (Texas Rangers) 

 

I have never heard the phrase "USA always gets its man". 

Agreed. As an American I've never heard the expression.

[SoCal1990]

4 hours ago, Woof999 said:

 

Assange has spent more than 10 years in some kind of pergatory. 7 years living in an embassy and then 5 years in jail. Snowden not quite as long but not far off. He was stuck in a Moscow airport for about a month and has lost everything he had in his previous life, likely never to regain it.

 

You might say that the US didn't get their men, but they sure helped (with other nations involved too) feck their lives up for a significant period of time.

That is all true, but the US was still aiming for far more than that and didn't get it.  
 

Julian Assange had an appeal hearing scheduled for July 9-10, 2024. The hearing would have addressed the U.S. assurances regarding Assange’s freedom of expression protections under the First Amendment if he were to be extradited to the United States. The High Court in London had very recently granted Assange permission to appeal on the grounds that the U.S. has not adequately assured Assange that he would be protected under these rights.

 

Therefore, reports indicate that Julian Assange’s release was simply expedited due to the forthcoming July court date where those First Amendment issues were expected to be aired out, addressed and challenged in a court of law. This court hearing in July was seen as a big potential challenge for the U.S. government, particularly regarding the implications for press freedom and the rights of journalists under the First Amendment and, thus the US didn't want that issue argued in a court of law in a high profile case like this. So it was a US government fear of bad optics that freed him. Thus, as a result, the U.S. quickly agreed to the plea deal that just led to Assange’s release. 

[Yellowtail]

4 minutes ago, SoCal1990 said:

That is all true, but the US was still aiming for far more than that and didn't get it.  
 

Julian Assange had an appeal hearing scheduled for July 9-10, 2024. The hearing would have addressed the U.S. assurances regarding Assange’s freedom of expression protections under the First Amendment if he were to be extradited to the United States. The High Court in London had very recently granted Assange permission to appeal on the grounds that the U.S. has not adequately assured Assange that he would be protected under these rights.

 

Therefore, reports indicate that Julian Assange’s release was simply expedited due to the forthcoming July court date where those First Amendment issues were expected to be aired out, addressed and challenged in a court of law. This court hearing in July was seen as a big potential challenge for the U.S. government, particularly regarding the implications for press freedom and the rights of journalists under the First Amendment and, thus the US didn't want that issue argued in a court of law in a high profile case like this. So it was a US government fear of bad optics that freed him. Thus, as a result, the U.S. quickly agreed to the plea deal that just led to Assange’s release. 

Yeah, the last thing the left wants is for First Amendment issues to be aired out. 

[SoCal1990]

6 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Depends on who you are. 

Nothing is ever achieved by staying in a jail

cell. 

[SoCal1990]

13 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Yeah, the last thing the left wants is for First Amendment issues to be aired out. 

This issue is bigger than left or right. 

[Yellowtail]

8 minutes ago, SoCal1990 said:

Nothing is ever achieved by staying in a jail

cell. 

Not true

[cardinalblue]

14 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Lyndon Johnson and the democraptic cabal at the time... Hilary is one of his disciples 

Johnson is ranked as one of US best presidents….it’s better you just skip along