Celsius Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 (edited) People hoard money because life on this planet is hell for most people. Money (or material things that you can exchange for goods) make things more comfortable. Coach or business? If I had money I would fly first. Thai mattress? No thanks. Thai food? Disgusting. Thank you for reading. Edited July 11 by Celsius 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susanlea Posted July 11 Author Share Posted July 11 3 minutes ago, Celsius said: People hoard money because life on this planet is hell for most people. Money (or material things that you can exchange for goods) make thinks more comfortable. Coach or business? If I had money I would fly first. Thai mattress? No thanks. Thai food? Disgusting. Thank you for reading. What about Thai people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celsius Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 14 minutes ago, susanlea said: What about Thai people? They love money and material things just like everyone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susanlea Posted July 11 Author Share Posted July 11 9 minutes ago, Celsius said: They love money and material things just like everyone. What's more staggering is that around 44 percent, or three millions Thai people aged between 10 and 19, are at the risk of slipping into depression. https://news.cgtn.com/news/2019-07-24/Thailand-s-alarming-suicide-rates-IAdZA0TiXC/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2baht Posted July 11 Popular Post Share Posted July 11 12 hours ago, susanlea said: 99% of everything you own is junk. Absolute rubbish! Stupid comment! Tell that to my dialysis unit! 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susanlea Posted July 11 Author Share Posted July 11 9 minutes ago, 2baht said: Absolute rubbish! Stupid comment! Tell that to my dialysis unit! Apart from health and money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2baht Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 (edited) 9 minutes ago, susanlea said: Apart from health and money. Oh! Conditions apply??? Edited July 11 by 2baht 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susanlea Posted July 11 Author Share Posted July 11 1 minute ago, 2baht said: Oh! Conditions exist??? Of course. You got health, money you got life. A chair won't buy you a plane ticket or a massage. 7/11 doesn't accept leather shoes as payment for beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2baht Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Just now, susanlea said: Of course. You got health, money you got life. A chair won't buy you a plane ticket or a massage. 7/11 doesn't accept leather shoes as payment for beer. So what? What will buy you a chair or an airline ticket, leather shoes? Money Susi, generally accumulated from working. Accepted by 7/11! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susanlea Posted July 11 Author Share Posted July 11 3 minutes ago, 2baht said: So what? What will buy you a chair or an airline ticket, leather shoes? Money Susi, generally accumulated from working. Accepted by 7/11! Deep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fondue zoo Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 4 hours ago, susanlea said: Which is my point. Well done! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 14 hours ago, susanlea said: I notice how 90% of responses are people attacking the op. Happens on every topic. Lots of really uptight defensive people. Very strange. You've only been on the forum since April @susanlea. After 10 years you'll consider it 'normal'. And in my case, I've been an expat for much of my adult life so I'm quite used to being in the company of malcontents. It seems to come with the plane ticket! It's one of the main reasons why I'm quite happy now living in a small village with few possessions and well away from the 'maddening crowd'. I recall my ex brother-in-law. When he married, they bought a nice house which was plenty big enough for them and their 2 planned offspring. And then they filled it with junk, including the garage whilst their expensive BMW was parked on the drive. (and vulnerable of course) They then decided that it wasn't big enough and so they extended the house and inevitably continued to fill it with junk. They then decided to buy a bigger house to accommodate them (and their junk) Now their 2 girls have grown up, found hubbies and moved out, so now they are rattling around in this huge house full of junk. Why didn't they simply get rid of the junk in the first place? Clinging to stuff achieves nothing in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted July 11 Popular Post Share Posted July 11 15 hours ago, susanlea said: I notice how 90% of responses are people attacking the op. Happens on every topic. Lots of really uptight defensive people. Very strange. Well, if the 'Op' makes a dumbed-down over simplified and generalised assumption and turns their own comprehension into a statement projected towards everyone else, then what would you expect ???... You're very thin skinned for someone who makes so many daft comments. Your Op makes no differentiation between animals and those of us with consciousness - while you are correct, we can't take anything with us, that does not mean our possessions are junk... they are a facet of life we experience, enjoy, and some of these items can be passed down to our loved ones. I'm wondering what possessions you would consider junk... From cars, motorcycles, coffee machines, TV's etc - all have their uses towards enjoyment of life. Clothing, of various types also bring comfort and enjoyment, especially those who may enjoy being more stylish than the average bum There are also items of great sentimental value, we can take them with us, but the though that they remain with loved ones is of value to some (many of us). Thus: the idea presented that 'objects are junk' is fundamentally flawed... Such comments are not to far away from such comments as "whats the point of living if we are going to die?"... Or.. "why bother getting educated, we die and thats it, so we can't take our education with us"... Given the Ops content - I suspect he has bought into this latter concept.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwaibill Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 16 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: Personally, I think the part between being born and dying is the interesting part. How should I take anything with me when I die? I am dead. It doesn't hurt and I won't miss anything because I am dead. You cold do like me and ask your wife to write a check to put in your coffin…😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 1 minute ago, Kwaibill said: You cold do like me and ask your wife to write a check to put in your coffin…😄 And then god will pick it up and think let's party? Or what is the idea about such check? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 1 hour ago, Moonlover said: Clinging to stuff achieves nothing in my opinion. Clinging onto stuff that you'll never use again... perhaps. Clinging onto stuff that offers no cosmetic improvement or personal value to your life... perhaos. We could go as far as, whats the point in decorating our house?, we can't take that with us... Whats the point in ornaments ?... they serve no practical value. This binary concept that inanimate objects are 'junk'... is flawed.. Our belongings fall on a spectrum of individual value from the utterly useless and pointless, through to the highly valued and useful items... ... some folk have no need for a car - and thus argue a car is not needed, while others find a car essential... The same can be said of a nice house full of items someone else may consider junk... but they find enjoyable to have around. Just because something is not 'needed' does not mean it is not benifitial to have around as we may need it at some point, or may find solace in keeping it... Watches are a perfect example - completely unnecessary in todays world... I had a lovely watch, purchased at a key moment in my life - later on I figured I didn't need it and sold it for a profit. I regret selling it on and would have taken a degree of happiness in passing that watch to my Son. Thus: I'll now look at getting another watch, something my Son can have when I pass, something that he will take sentimental value from. This perhaps leads me on to the main point - some people find no sentimental value in belongings, they call it junk. But, life is to be enjoyed, and if a person takes value from items, then it has contributed to their enjoyment. Thats not to say that without such items their life is not enjoyable, this would be a binary fallacy, but life can be complimented by many things we have and do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 (edited) 3 hours ago, susanlea said: Of course. You got health, money you got life. A chair won't buy you a plane ticket or a massage. 7/11 doesn't accept leather shoes as payment for beer. Yes it does... everywhere does... You have simply not understood that money creates a 'double coincidence of want'... ... You can sell your chair for money... you can sell your leather shoes for money... you can purchase items with that money. ... then there is the other facet to the point you argue... you can't get to 7-11 in the first place without those shoes. Edited July 11 by richard_smith237 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: Yes it does... everywhere does... You have simply not understood that money creates a 'double coincidence of want'... ... You can sell your chair for money... you can sell your leather shoes for money... you can purchase items with that money. ... then there is the other facet to the point you argue... you can't get to 7-11 in the first place without those shoes. You can buy good health for money, and happiness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susanlea Posted July 11 Author Share Posted July 11 8 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: Yes it does... everywhere does... You have simply not understood that money creates a 'double coincidence of want'... ... You can sell your chair for money... you can sell your leather shoes for money... you can purchase items with that money. ... then there is the other facet to the point you argue... you can't get to 7-11 in the first place without those shoes. Flip flops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 14 hours ago, Hummin said: Cant have more happy endings, Im happy with the happy endings I get from my wife in her prime 😂 I prefer the ones from randoms I rent on a per house basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 12 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: Yes it does... everywhere does... You have simply not understood that money creates a 'double coincidence of want'... ... You can sell your chair for money... you can sell your leather shoes for money... you can purchase items with that money. ... then there is the other facet to the point you argue... you can't get to 7-11 in the first place without those shoes. I do not wear leather shoes and to date have never been refused entry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbee2022 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 17 hours ago, susanlea said: Born naked with nothing. When you die you don't get to take stuff with you. So why do people accumulate so much junk? 99% of everything you own is junk. Well, I know one in Thailand he got assets of at least 55 billion USD. And a castle in Germany. Guess, who is it? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susanlea Posted July 11 Author Share Posted July 11 Just now, newbee2022 said: Well, I know one in Thailand he got assets of at least 55 billion USD. And a castle in Germany. Guess, who is it? Bob? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susanlea Posted July 11 Author Share Posted July 11 29 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: Well, if the 'Op' makes a dumbed-down over simplified and generalised assumption and turns their own comprehension into a statement projected towards everyone else, then what would you expect ???... You're very thin skinned for someone who makes so many daft comments. Your Op makes no differentiation between animals and those of us with consciousness - while you are correct, we can't take anything with us, that does not mean our possessions are junk... they are a facet of life we experience, enjoy, and some of these items can be passed down to our loved ones. I'm wondering what possessions you would consider junk... From cars, motorcycles, coffee machines, TV's etc - all have their uses towards enjoyment of life. Clothing, of various types also bring comfort and enjoyment, especially those who may enjoy being more stylish than the average bum There are also items of great sentimental value, we can take them with us, but the though that they remain with loved ones is of value to some (many of us). Thus: the idea presented that 'objects are junk' is fundamentally flawed... Such comments are not to far away from such comments as "whats the point of living if we are going to die?"... Or.. "why bother getting educated, we die and thats it, so we can't take our education with us"... Given the Ops content - I suspect he has bought into this latter concept.... You will wake up one day. Probably take you 10 years to realise though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbee2022 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 5 minutes ago, susanlea said: Bob? 😂😂😂😄🤣🥰😋😘😍Thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 6 minutes ago, Ralf001 said: I prefer the ones from randoms I rent on a per house basis. Never done short time, not even for a random chick I met, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptic7 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 17 hours ago, susanlea said: 99% of everything you own is junk. 99% of what you own may be junk. Zero of what I own is junk. I don't buy, nor accumulate, junk. Only high quality necessities and conveniences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thingamabob Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 You may think chairs, tables, beds, fridges, cookers/stoves, cupboards etc are junk, but I find them useful, as may those who get to use them after my death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jippytum Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 The foreign people i have met in Thailand with nothing tend to be scroungers and best avoided. Hardworking thais with very little often should be helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 17 hours ago, susanlea said: The average household is full of junk though. Maybe yours is. Things in my house give us a happy life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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