Diet experiment

[Middle Aged Grouch]

You can eat almost anything if in moderation.

 

Meat is fine, provided not more then say twice a week, as one gets in age.

 

Same for eggs,. Daily consumption tends to get fatal with age.

 

Flee fast food, and all the sweets or snacks and anything packed and industrially prepared.

 

Booze is fine now and then,  but we all see the mental wreck of the daily booze drinkers all over Thailand.

 

As much as possible, cook at home and despite the cheap prices, don't eat out daily.

 

That is if you want to enjoy Thailand as long as possible.

[scubascuba3]

13 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Do you have links for this or just making it up?

research and you will find, peanuts contain high fat which makes you fat along with too much protein which makes you fat

[susanlea]

Just now, scubascuba3 said:

research and you will fine, peanuts contain high fat which makes you fat along with too much protein

No such thing as too much protein. 

[scubascuba3]

4 minutes ago, susanlea said:

No such thing as too much protein. 

stuff your face with protein daily and let's see how much fatter you get

[connda]

10 hours ago, susanlea said:

Eggs, veges, fruit, yoghurt, milk. No meat, bread. Try 1 week see if i feel better or worse. I have never gone 1 day without meat before. Eggs have iron and b12 so maybe not lacking in nutrients?

I don't get the point of it.  Do a water fast for 3 days.  You'll feel better. 

[Ralf001]

OMAD (5am daily) is the go and nothing but water (no beer and no coffee has been tough).

Dropped 12kg in the past 4 weeks, time to ease up as target weight has been achieved.

[KhunLA]

5 minutes ago, Middle Aged Grouch said:

You can eat almost anything if in moderation.

 

Meat is fine, provided not more then say twice a week, as one gets in age.

 

Same for eggs,. Daily consumption tends to get fatal with age.

 

Flee fast food, and all the sweets or snacks and anything packed and industrially prepared.

 

Booze is fine now and then,  but we all see the mental wreck of the daily booze drinkers all over Thailand.

 

As much as possible, cook at home and despite the cheap prices, don't eat out daily.

 

That is if you want to enjoy Thailand as long as possible.

I eat some kind of meat/protein, almost everyday.  Bacon today, pork loin yesterday.  Salmon is always in the freezer & available.

 

Same with eggs, and usually 2 scrambled most days as 1st meal.

 

Do stay clear of fast food, none really here anyway, just  KFC, and rare that I bother, as something I get when O&A, though haven't in some time now.   Sweets, something everyday, maybe blueberries, or dark chocolate, as always in the house.  Usually some kind of pastry a couple times a week.  

 

Evening snack seems to be a bowl of corn flakes & blueberries of late.  Then a 12-15 hr intermittent fast till first meal around noon.   Morning cup of black coffee is about it till then, while catching up on the world and trollin" AN.

 

No alcohol, or very rare.  Don't even have any in the house.  Agree, cook & eat in mostly.  Simply because we enjoy cooking, and dining out is very limited here especially if wanting AC.

 

Not sure I'd go with OP's diet in the OP.  Think it lacks some of the basics, as meats provide a lot of nutrition.

[susanlea]

6 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

stuff your face with protein daily and let's see how much fatter you get

Your comments are way off. Carnivore diet people are lean. I doubt it is healthy long term though. 

[scubascuba3]

1 minute ago, susanlea said:

Your comments are way off. Carnivore diet people are lean. I doubt it is healthy long term though. 

Point is these weird diets go wrong eventually, I've worked it out already, you're still searching

[susanlea]

1 minute ago, scubascuba3 said:

Point is these weird diets go wrong eventually, I've worked it out already, you're still searching

You ride 400km a week. Your diet is not that relevant.

[connda]

17 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

research and you will find, peanuts contain high fat which makes you fat along with too much protein which makes you fat

Just curious but you do understand what a Keto diet is?  Mostly fat.  And you lose fat.  And there is a physiological reason for that fat loss when you're on a high fat diet.  Called ketosis.

[scubascuba3]

6 minutes ago, susanlea said:

You ride 400km a week. Your diet is not that relevant.

oh yes it is, plenty of fat cyclists around 

[susanlea]

1 minute ago, scubascuba3 said:

oh yes it is, plenty of fat cyclists around 

If i eat fish and veges im lean but fish in thailand is dodgy.

[scubascuba3]

6 minutes ago, connda said:

Just curious but you do understand what a Keto diet is?  Mostly fat.  And you lose fat.  And there is a physiological reason for that fat loss when you're on a high fat diet.  Called ketosis.

Yes Ketosis occurs naturally during prolonged starvation and severe illness

[scubascuba3]

5 minutes ago, susanlea said:

If i eat fish and veges im lean but fish in thailand is dodgy.

it's not a diet I'd like, boring and the fish here is poor

[FolkGuitar]

1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:

Peanuts will make you fat, no one has ever died from protein deficiency 

If this is from the same source as your comment about Keto... with all due respect, are you familiar with Kwashiorkor?

Kwashiorkor is a fatal medical condition that results from severe protein deficiency. It most commonly affects children in developing countries with high levels of poverty and food insecurity.

And no... peanuts don't make you fat. My diet is almost 80% fat... and I haven't been fat since 2019.

 

[Hummin]

10 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

The protein from eggs is all anyone needs to grow muscle (replace cells). Meat isn't necessary as long as you get complete protein, with all essential amino acids, to replace muscle and body cells. Eggs, fish, dairy if you aren't intolerant, and some combinations are all anyone needs.

Then you need to eat alot of eggs if thats the ony main source of protein to grow muscles. Grow muscles you need at least 0.8g pr kg to 1,6g lean body weight.

 

Good protein sources and a balanced diet is the best no matter what you like to believe. Unless you have allergies or some underlying conditions.  

[susanlea]

Dinner - veges, mushrooms, rice and egg.

[Hummin]

39 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

research and you will find, peanuts contain high fat which makes you fat along with too much protein which makes you fat

ai, it is not the fat that make you fat, it is the total amount of calories you eat if you are a normal active person and no underlying conditions

[FolkGuitar]

2 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Dinner - veges, mushrooms, rice and egg.

We had Chinese (Guangdong ) style Beef with Black Bean Sauce over faux rice.

Gotta love Keto variety! 🙂

[scubascuba3]

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

ai, it is not the fat that make you fat, it is the total amount of calories you eat if you are a normal active person and no underlying conditions

just your opinion, no one agrees on anything it seems, depends where you get your info from

[Hummin]

4 hours ago, msbkk said:

Peanuts at the same time  have too much fat and calories to be a good protein source. At least you have to watch the quantity consumed. For a weight loss diet peanuts are a no.

Cant get enough proteins on vegetables, fruits or nuts it is only a supplement to sources rich in protein above 20g pr 100g. 

 

Healhty intake of nuts (good to have a nut mix) is around 30-40g pr day only

 

Fish, meat, chicken, is good protein sources. Some protein sources with high fiber is good to eat to, beans, lentils, some whole grain as well. 

[susanlea]

Just now, scubascuba3 said:

just your opinion, no one agrees on anything it seems, depends where you get your info from

Calories in and out is 95% right. Nobody knows the whole picture. 1g if fat is 9 calories. 1g of protein is 4 calories. 1g of carbs is 4 calories. But excess carbs spike insulin so body stores more fat. So protein is the best macro.

[Hummin]

4 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

just your opinion, no one agrees on anything it seems, depends where you get your info from

to build muscles you need fat, carb and protein simple as that

 

You can build some muscles without fat and carb, but never reach your full potential. 

[fredwiggy]

7 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Then you need to eat alot of eggs if thats the ony main source of protein to grow muscles. Grow muscles you need at least 0.8g pr kg to 1,6g lean body weight.

 

Good protein sources and a balanced diet is the best no matter what you like to believe. Unless you have allergies or some underlying conditions.  

As long as you eat food with all the essential amino acids to repair and build cells, it doesn't matter where they come from. If you understand how to combine foods, it's possible to get all the essentials without eating animals products, but it takes education. Many vegans just eat vegetables and fruits and lose weight and are weak, because they don't understand how to combine foods. Eggs are about the best source or protein, but if you have a cholesterol problem, it's best to limit the amount of yolks and get protein from other sources such as fish and dairy (lactose free if intolerant).

[Hummin]

2 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Calories in and out is 95% right. Nobody knows the whole picture. 1g if fat is 9 calories. 1g of protein is 4 calories. 1g of carbs is 4 calories. But excess carbs spike insulin so body stores more fat. So protein is the best macro.

still 45% of your daily intake based on your maintaining daily need for your ideal weight should be carb, and then you an mix the two other with at least 25% protein, max 35% depending on your activity is for muscle building or cardio

[fredwiggy]

5 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

just your opinion, no one agrees on anything it seems, depends where you get your info from

It's not just his opinion but factual. The only other thing he could add is to lose weight faster you need to keep your carbs lower, as your body has to burn off stored sugar before it burns stored body fat. It doesn't matter who agrees on whatever. Things work for a reason. Losing stored fat is keeping your total calories down, not eating too late at night, eating frequent smaller meals and keeping your carbs low.

[Hummin]

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

As long as you eat food with all the essential amino acids to repair and build cells, it doesn't matter where they come from. If you understand how to combine foods, it's possible to get all the essentials without eating animals products, but it takes education. Many vegans just eat vegetables and fruits and lose weight and are weak, because they don't understand how to combine foods. Eggs are about the best source or protein, but if you have a cholesterol problem, it's best to limit the amount of yolks and get protein from other sources such as fish and dairy (lactose free if intolerant).

Many vegans is underweight and do not look healthy at all, and as you say hard to optain a healthy sustainable diet. Same for Keto, so why struggle? when yu can eat balanced and be healthy? Why is it so hard for some to stay balanced, and have to go extreme? 

 

A balanced diet is more uncomplicated to reach your daily needs of makros, vitamins, minerals, fiber,  ,,,,,

 

 

[MalcolmB]

I am on a seefood and beer diet.

 

If I see food I eat it.

 

I get food poisoning every couple of weeks since moving here which helps keep the kgs off.

[Hummin]

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

It's not just his opinion but factual. The only other thing he could add is to lose weight faster you need to keep your carbs lower, as your body has to burn off stored sugar before it burns stored body fat. It doesn't matter who agrees on whatever. Things work for a reason. Losing stored fat is keeping your total calories down, not eating too late at night, eating frequent smaller meals and keeping your carbs low.

that is outdated, you do not need to burn carbs before fat, you need to go low intensity cardio and use your muscles regulary as we where supposed to do since we where borned. 

 

Effective fat burning where the body needs oxygen, because breathing is part of fat loss exercising at a lower intensity actually means that more oxygen is available to be used by the body to break down fat and use it as energy. 

 

As a freediver I learned how to breathe, and I can tell you, it helped getting more shredded adding that breathing to my other exercises, getting in as much oxygen as possible. 

 

 

5 Really Good Reasons to Do More Low-Intensity Cardio

https://www.livestrong.com/article/557788-the-effects-of-low-intensity-cardio/