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Mass Deportation Trump’s 2024 Campaign Strategy and Its Impact on the Republican Party


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As the 2024 election approaches, Donald Trump is centering his campaign on a bold and controversial promise: to carry out the largest deportation program in American history. Signs at the Republican National Convention boldly proclaimed "Mass Deportation Now!", signaling a full embrace of Trump's plan to expel millions of migrants from the United States. However, this aggressive stance has sparked concern among some Republicans, who worry about the implications of such a policy.

 

Lauren B. Peña, a Republican activist from Texas, voiced her discomfort with the rhetoric surrounding mass deportations at the convention. Terms like "illegals" and "invasion" being thrown around made her uneasy. Peña, like some Republicans in Congress who have advocated for more balanced approaches to immigration, hopes that Trump is merely posturing. She believes that his focus will be on deporting criminals and sex offenders rather than targeting every family that crosses the border.

 

Despite these hopes, Trump and his advisers seem committed to a more sweeping approach. Trump has placed immigration at the forefront of his campaign, pushing the Republican Party toward a strategy reminiscent of the 1950s. This strategy harkens back to former President Dwight D. Eisenhower's deportation policy, infamously known as "Operation Wetback," a term now recognized as a racial slur. In a 2023 interview with Time Magazine, Trump suggested that he would use the National Guard, and possibly even the military, to deport between 15 million and 20 million people. This is despite the government's estimate that in 2022, around 11 million migrants were living in the U.S. without permanent legal permission.

 

Trump's plans have raised the stakes in the upcoming election, going beyond the longstanding conservative priority of fortifying the southern border. His proposals prompt a fundamental question about America's approach to immigration: Should the country undertake a massive deportation effort that would affect millions of people?

 

The Biden administration's handling of the southern border has seen historic numbers of crossings, which has prompted a rightward shift in the Democratic Party's stance on immigration. Democrats have increasingly led with promises of border security before addressing the needs of immigrants already in the country. As both parties gear up for the November election, they are keenly aware of the importance of Latino voters, especially in swing states.

 

In the 2020 election, Trump won 35% of Hispanic voters, according to AP VoteCast. Support for stronger border enforcement has grown among Hispanic voters, but an analysis by the AP-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research shows that about half of Hispanic Americans hold a somewhat or very unfavorable view of Trump. Despite this, Peña, who describes herself as a multiracial Hispanic person, has become an enthusiastic supporter of the GOP. She was drawn to Trump after witnessing the impact of drug addiction in the public housing complex where she lives in Austin. Peña feels that government programs have failed to help low-income people and that the recent surge in migration has strained public assistance programs like food stamps.

 

However, Peña is also concerned when fellow Republicans discuss more extreme ideas, such as barring children without permanent legal status from public schooling. As a Hispanic person, she finds the topic difficult and believes that these individuals should be given a chance. Nevertheless, many GOP lawmakers have largely supported Trump's plans, viewing them as necessary. House Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., stated in a July interview at the conservative Hudson Institute that such measures are needed.

 

Some Republicans have expressed tacit skepticism, suggesting more modest goals. Senator James Lankford, an Oklahoma Republican, noted that over 1 million people have already received final orders of removal from an immigration judge. He pointed out the logistical and financial challenges of targeting this group alone. Lankford, who negotiated a bipartisan border package that Trump opposed earlier in the year, emphasized the difficulty of executing a mass deportation program on such a large scale.

 

Other Republicans, including Florida Senator Marco Rubio and Representative Mario Diaz Balart, have suggested that Trump would prioritize deporting migrants with criminal backgrounds. Trump entered office in 2016 with similar promises of mass deportation but only succeeded in deporting about 1.5 million people during his first term. This time, however, Trump appears to have a more detailed plan.

 

Stephen Miller, a former top aide who is expected to play a senior role in a potential Trump administration, has described a vision of a government working with "utter determination" to achieve two main goals: "Seal the border. Deport all the illegals." To accomplish this, Trump has proposed reviving travel bans from countries deemed undesirable, such as majority-Muslim nations. He has also suggested launching a sweeping operation to round up immigrants using the National Guard, detaining them in massive camps, and deporting them before they have the opportunity to make legal appeals.

 

Beyond deportation, Trump has pledged to end birthright citizenship, a 125-year-old right in the U.S. Several of his top advisers have outlined a broader policy vision through the Heritage Foundation's Project 2025, which aims to reduce legal migration significantly. This plan could also end temporary programs for over 1 million migrants, including DACA recipients, Ukrainians and Afghans fleeing conflict, and others granted temporary protection due to unrest in their home countries.

 

The potential consequences of these policies are significant, particularly in industries like housing and agriculture that rely heavily on immigrant labor. Jorge Franco, CEO of the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce of Wisconsin, warned that the state's economy would suffer if the 75,000-plus immigrants who perform essential work in Wisconsin's dairy and agriculture sectors were suddenly deported.

 

Representative Maria Elvira Salazar, a Florida Republican who has advocated for legislation providing a path to citizenship for longtime residents, acknowledged that large-scale deportations might be necessary due to recent border surges. However, she also expressed hope that Trump would differentiate between recent arrivals and those who have lived in the U.S. for years. Salazar emphasized the importance of considering the needs of the business community, particularly in industries like construction and farming that rely on immigrant labor.

 

Meanwhile, Democrats believe that Trump's threats of mass deportation are galvanizing Latino voters. María Teresa Kumar, CEO of Voto Latino, a leading voter registration organization supporting Democratic candidate Kamala Harris, noted that the prospect of mass deportations has put many people on high alert. Since Harris rose to the top of the Democratic ticket, Voto Latino has seen a surge in voter registrations, with nearly 36,000 new voters registered in just a few weeks, almost matching their total from the first half of the year.

 

In a heavily Latino House district on the southern tip of Texas, Democratic Representative Vicente Gonzalez observed that while voters want better border management, many also have friends or family members who lack proper immigration documentation. Gonzalez argued that more could be done to implement effective border policies, but mass deportation is not the solution, as it causes significant anxiety within communities.

 

As the 2024 election draws near, the debate over immigration and mass deportation continues to divide the Republican Party and the nation. While Trump’s hardline approach appeals to a segment of the GOP base, it also raises concerns about the practical and moral implications of such policies. At the same time, Democrats are leveraging these fears to mobilize voters, particularly within the Latino community. The outcome of this debate could shape the future of immigration policy in the United States for years to come.

 

Credit: WP  2024-08-12

 

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12 minutes ago, Tug said:

f this abomination comes true you think groceries are expensive now !!I could see an easy 100% rise in prices just for that commodity

 

No, usual fearmongering. Let's hope the abomination comes true. UK should follow suit.

 

13 minutes ago, Tug said:

let’s get that bipartisan immigration bill signed into law!

 

Let's be sure we don't. Stealth way to legalize all the illegals that are here, bring in more, and turn them into Dem voters.

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17 minutes ago, Tug said:

Mexico is our #1 foreign trading partner

 

it depends though. this changes quite often year over year. in 2021 it was canada. 2023 it was mexico.  

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1 minute ago, stoner said:

 

it depends though. this changes quite often year over year. in 2021 it was canada. 2023 it was mexico.  

I’d certainly prefer to have them as allies and our countries work together to solve our problems.heres a thought if Harris wins then both countries will be governed by women perhaps then stronger progress can be made against the cartels and the root causes that cause one to up root their lives and flee to a place were they know they aren’t welcome.

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2 minutes ago, Tug said:

progress can be made against the cartels and the root causes that cause one to up root their lives and flee to a place were they know they aren’t welcome.

 

america needs to look within to solve this problem. most of the drugs from the cartel go to america if i am right ? 

 

you have a conservative government possibly on its way in canada soon. wont work well with harris and some of the ideas. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, thesetat2013 said:

Wow you are totally confused and deluded about this. What do the prices of foods have to do with allowing or denying illegals to enter the USA through Mexico? Most are not even Mexican. No-one can say for sure who these people are because there are so many undocumented or checked.

 

I am all for allowing immigrants in the USA. That is ow the country was built and grew. Diversity. But even when immigrants came by the boatload to New York and later to Miami they were checked and even though some were given permission that were serious criminals. However, I was in Miami when they had to Cuban flotillas coming in daily. Such violence they created and damage they caused on the economy still reverberates through parts of the city. i can only imagine what it is like in the cities now where these illegals are being sent to by the plane and busloads. I read about how bad it is affecting the poor that are legal immigrants but can not get help because that money was used for the illegals. Crimes increased and will continue. 

 

But your comment is baseless. I bet you never lived in an area full of migrants or near one of these places where the illegals are being sent to. Yet here you are commenting nonsense about prices increasing if the illegals are deported? 

Only the ones applying for asylum are allowed to stay as their cases are adjucated as per law ……change the international law on asylum seekers then bingo turn them away.the traditional (wet back) who try’s to sneak across are usually deported immediately.there is money in the bipartisan immigration bill to hire more immigration judges to expedite the back log of cases as well as more agents and equipment to indirect drug shipments normally caught at ports of entry.not carried on the backs of illegals.who pray tell killed the bill?yup trump did.

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2 hours ago, BigStar said:

No, usual fearmongering. Let's hope the abomination comes true. UK should follow suit.

I believe promises of mass deportations were made, how did that work out?

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2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I believe promises of mass deportations were made, how did that work out?

 

Screwed that up. Idiots.

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5 minutes ago, BigStar said:

 

Screwed that up. Idiots.

Predicted if you recall.

 

It was never going to work, like Trump’s ‘promises’ it’s just red meat for the low information admirers of performative cruelty.

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43 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Predicted if you recall.

 

It was never going to work, like Trump’s ‘promises’ it’s just red meat for

 

I don't recall. Something was being done in the UK until the election. May be buyer's remorse now.

 

We'll see after Trump's elected. The Republican Platform includes the idea. Vance is strongly on board. The voters seem fed up with the immigration problem and illegals. Much depends on whether both Houses go red or not. Dems will block if they possibly can, and the low information admirers of performative phony virtue signaling and socialist fantasies will still vote for them. Big idiot Masie Hirono won her primary the other day.

 

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2 minutes ago, BigStar said:

 

I don't recall. Something was being done in the UK until the election. May be buyer's remorse now.

 

We'll see after Trump's elected. The Republican Platform includes the idea. Vance is strongly on board. The voters seem fed up with the immigration problem and illegals. Much depends on whether both Houses go red or not. Dems will block if they possibly can, and the low information admirers of performative virtue signaling and socialist fantasies will still vote for them. Big idiot Masie Hirono won her primary the other day.

 

Your recollection deceives you.

 

Nothing was being done.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, BigStar said:

 

I don't recall. Something was being done in the UK until the election. May be buyer's remorse now.

 

We'll see after Trump's elected. The Republican Platform includes the idea. Vance is strongly on board. The voters seem fed up with the immigration problem and illegals. Much depends on whether both Houses go red or not. Dems will block if they possibly can, and the low information admirers of performative virtue signaling and socialist fantasies will still vote for them. Big idiot Masie Hirono won her primary the other day.

 

If Trump really wanted to solve the illegal immigration problem all he would have to do as President is to propose legislation that makes it a felony to hire illegals and those who do so face serious time in prison. To give Ron DeSantis credit, a thing I hate to do, he has at least, had a law passed that imposes serious fines on those who hire illegals. (Whether or not he sees to it that it gets enforced is another matter.) Given Trump's popularity in the agricultural business community, a community that depends on illegals, I doubt that he will ever propose such legislation.

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13 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Your recollection deceives you.

 

Nothing was being done.

 

 

 

You knew nothing to recollect. Legislation passed and a raft of challenges overcome. The Rwanda plan was ready to implement. Raids were launched. Then, the idiots voted in Labour. End of story. Now, they're having fun time. 🙂 

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17 minutes ago, placeholder said:

If Trump really wanted to solve the illegal immigration problem all he would have to do as President is to propose legislation that makes it a felony to hire illegals and those who do so face serious time in prison.

 

Little facile solutions, as we're famous for pecking out on our keyboards, aren't going to be workable. "Proposing" is one thing; getting the needed legislation passed and overcoming the legal noise is quite another.

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3 minutes ago, BigStar said:

 

Little facile solutions, as we're famous for pecking out on our keyboards, aren't going to be workable. "Proposing" is one thing; getting the needed legislation passed and overcoming the legal noise is quite another.

The way one starts to get legislation passed is to first promote it. Make it a subject for debate and discussion. But it doesn't even get a mention from Trump and his fellow travelers. Given that so much of his support stems from people who benefit from illegal workers, that isn't surprising.

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Just now, placeholder said:

The way one starts to get legislation passed is to first promote it. Make it a subject for debate and discussion. But it doesn't even get a mention from Trump and his fellow travelers. Given that so much of his support stems from people who benefit from illegal workers, that isn't surprising.

There is also the little issue of Trump not actually wanting to tank the economy by ridding it of illegals.

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22 minutes ago, placeholder said:

The way one starts to get legislation passed is to first promote it.

 

But, you see, one doesn't promote legislation that won't work or won't get passed.

 

22 minutes ago, placeholder said:

But it doesn't even get a mention from Trump and his fellow travelers.

 

No, your little facile solution pecked out on your keyboard isn't getting a mention. Actually the candidates are in campaign mode so they're not getting into the weeds of implementation. Kamala hasn't found the weed patch yet.

 

22 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Given that so much of his support stems from people who benefit from illegal workers, that isn't surprising.

 

You've been given the real reason. Securing the border and deporting illegals is definitely a big part of oft-repeated policy, however. All the "benefits" are largely leftist propaganda you've swallowed. The real benefit sought is more Democratic voters and expansion of the welfare state.

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, BigStar said:

 

But, you see, one doesn't promote legislation that won't work or won't get passed.

 

 

No, your little facile solution pecked out on your keyboard isn't getting a mention. Actually the candidates are in campaign mode so they're not getting into the weeds of implementation. Kamala hasn't found the weed patch yet.

 

 

You've been given the real reason. Securing the border and deporting illegals is definitely a big part of oft-repeated policy, however. All the "benefits" are largely leftist propaganda you've swallowed.

 

 

 

Usually legislation begins with discussions. No evidence that Republicans are even discussing this. And the reason it has no chance of being passed? Obviously because it would hurt interests that are crucial to Republicans. 

 

 

As for the benefits being "leftist propaganda"...tell that to the agricultural industry including meatpacking and dairy.

 

These U.S. industries can't work without illegal immigrants

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-immigrants-us-jobs-economy-farm-workers-taxes/

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52 minutes ago, placeholder said:

No evidence that Republicans are even discussing this.

 

All conversations are public.🤣 Perhaps your simple little keyboard solution isn't worth discussing anyway. WOT???

 

52 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Obviously because it would hurt interests that are crucial to Republicans. 

 

That is a little fantasy that you simply MUST have in order to live. The open border debacle mostly serves interests crucial to Democrats.

 

52 minutes ago, placeholder said:

These U.S. industries can't work without illegal immigrants

 

Of course they can, with a guest worker program. Nor do they need Biden's 22 million. Eric Adams can tell you that.

 

But you're just going to ignore your popped balloons and bicker forever until the subtopic gets removed, or at least your posts, following the established template passed down over the decades from our champion bickerers.

 

It's just SO important to you believe in your naive, uneducated solution, and the supporting naivete, pecked out on your trusty keyboard, I'll not laugh at it further. You may make your last authoritative pronouncement in comfort. 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, BigStar said:

 

All conversations are public.🤣 Perhaps your simple little keyboard solution isn't worth discussing anyway. WOT???

 

 

That is a little fantasy that you simply MUST have in order to live. The open border debacle mostly serves interests crucial to Democrats.

 

 

Of course they can, with a guest worker program. Nor do they need Biden's 22 million. Eric Adams can tell you that.

 

But you're just going to ignore your popped balloons and bicker forever until the subtopic gets removed, or at least your posts, following the established template passed down over the decades from our champion bickerers.

 

It's just SO important to you believe in your naive, uneducated solution, and the supporting naivete, pecked out on your trusty keyboard, I'll not laugh at it further. You may make your last authoritative pronouncement in comfort. 

 

 

 

There already is a guest worker program. How's that working out in meeting demand?

Really there's an open border?

And as for it serving Democratic interests...really? Because the agricultural industry votes Democratic? Because business owners in general favor the Democrats?

Now you're down to making denigratory comments instead of rational replies. You've got nothing.

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3 hours ago, placeholder said:

Usually legislation begins with discussions. No evidence that Republicans are even discussing this. And the reason it has no chance of being passed? Obviously because it would hurt interests that are crucial to Republicans. 

 

 

As for the benefits being "leftist propaganda"...tell that to the agricultural industry including meatpacking and dairy.

 

These U.S. industries can't work without illegal immigrants

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-immigrants-us-jobs-economy-farm-workers-taxes/

Okay fine let's omit from mass deportations those illegal,I mean undocumented immigrants who are working in agriculture. And according to this link 258,000 in 2019. So let's say about 300,000 now. So your case for illegal immigrants is only a small fraction of the total: 300,000/11,000,000. The remainder need to be deported. And employing local police, federalizing the states national guards. As well as using the military. BTW the posse comitatus act does not prevent the military from executive action rounding up the illegals. President Trump can get a lot accomplished with executive orders . That does not require legislation and cannot be sandbagged by these democrats in Congress .https://cmsny.org/agricultural-workers-rosenbloom-083022/

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2 minutes ago, morrobay said:

Okay fine let's omit from mass deportations those illegal,I mean undocumented immigrants who are working in agriculture. And according to this link 258,000 in 2019. So let's say about 300,000 now. So your case for illegal immigrants is only a small fraction of the total: 300,000/11,000,000. The remainder need to be deported. And employing local police, federalizing the states national guards. As well as using the military. BTW the posse comitatus act does not prevent the military from executive action rounding up the illegals. President Trump can get a lot accomplished with executive orders . That does not require legislation and cannot be sandbagged by these democrats in Congress .https://cmsny.org/agricultural-workers-rosenbloom-083022/

And where is the US going to find workers to replace all the illegals who are now working. Unemployment is already low. 

As for using the military...

"BTW the posse comitatus act does not prevent the military from executive action rounding up the illegals."

 

The Posse Comitatus Act Explained

The law generally prevents the president from using the military as a domestic police force.

The Posse Comitatus Act bars federal troops from participating in civilian law enforcement except when expressly authorized by law. This 143-year-old law embodies an American tradition that sees military interference in civilian affairs as a threat to both democracy and personal liberty. 

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/posse-comitatus-act-explained

 

The exception is in the case of insurrection. So maybe the next time Trumpistas storm the Capitol, President Harris can deploy the army to combat them.

 

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20 hours ago, BKKKevin said:

This is just a rehashing of the “We’re going to build a wall and Mexico is gonna pay for it”… Red meat for his willfully ignorant followers…

Maga does not want a border solution they want a shiny object to scare people… :coffee1:

Red meat for his willfully ignorant followers…

 

Given the claims that Biden was fully in command of his mental capabilities till the debate changed all that, one suspects that "willfully ignorant" applies to a large number of Biden's supporters ( pre debate ).

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12 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Red meat for his willfully ignorant followers…

 

Given the claims that Biden was fully in command of his mental capabilities till the debate changed all that, one suspects that "willfully ignorant" applies to a large number of Biden's supporters ( pre debate ).

I don’t know,I live very close to the border the wife and I do our 3 mile daily hike close to the border perhaps you see something different from your vantage point in New Zealand 9,000 miles away.I done see nor experience chaos or crime.I do know trump needs to scare gullible people that’s why he killed the strongest immigration legislation we have had in decades.guess it gets him all puffed up thinking he can create huge concentration camps and throw people out of the country.the fact is people seeking asylum are not here illegally we attempted to hire the the judges and case workers to clear the backlog of cases trump killed it he needs the problem no more no less .it is what it is and trump is what he is

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41 minutes ago, Tug said:

the fact is people seeking asylum are not here illegally

 

if those people first reported to a regulated border point before trying to enter america then yes you are correct. 

 

if they did not report to a border point and crossed the border without going through a regulated crossing they have committed a crime. at that point any person who crosses the border not at a regulated port is in america illegally. seeking asylum or not. 

 

you live so close to the border. can you tell us the general area please. might help to understand the differences in where you are vs other border points in america that are experiencing a different story.  

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