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JD Vance Confronted on Donald Trump Avoiding Service in Vietnam War

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CallumWK Gold Member

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17 minutes ago, shdmn said:

 

https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-confronted-donald-trump-avoiding-service-vietnam-war-1937536

 

Talking about shooting yourself in the foot, you took it to the next level.

 

From your own link.

 

Walz made a comment about being in combat in a resurfaced clip from a political event in 2018, although the governor, who previously served 24 years in the Army National Guard, never went to war.

 

Speaking about gun control, Walz, who was a U.S. representative at the time, said in the 2018 clip, "We can make sure that those weapons of war that I carried in war is the only place where those weapons are at."

 

Walz has acknowledged that he never saw combat in the National Guard. Speaking to MPR News in 2018,

 

He never carried any weapons

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KhunLA Star Member

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Classic, and remembers this some 60 yrs later, of a nobody at the time.   She wouldn't be registered dem, would she ? :coffee1:

 

Quick check, both daughters are dem ... :cheesy:

 

More distractions from the left media.  When are they going to start talking and asking about the economy, the open border, the infrastructure, the debt, and continued borrowing to give it away to foreign countries.

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watthong Gold Member

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48 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

Walz has acknowledged that he never saw combat in the National Guard.

 

And same goes for Vance, who insisted "I did serve in war zone" - behind a desk, that is.

So keep digging.
 

CallumWK Gold Member

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32 minutes ago, shdmn said:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/26/politics/trump-bone-spurs-vietnam-war/index.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/26/us/politics/trump-vietnam-draft-exemption.html

 

 

 

 

When you have dug a hole for yourself, you should stop digging.\\

From your own link again.

 

The Times did not find documentation to help corroborate the family’s account, who described themselves as Democrats who dislike Trump, and Elysa Braunstein was unsure whether her father ever examined Donald Trump.

 

 

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CallumWK Gold Member

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5 minutes ago, watthong said:

 

And same goes for Vance, who insisted "I did serve in war zone" - behind a desk, that is.

So keep digging.
 

 

At least he wasn't a deserter like Walz

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shdmn Platinum Member

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Being a world class loser himself, the 5 deferment convicted felon, who called military veterans suckers and losers, would certainly know.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/us-news/trump-veterans-suckers-losers-b2594431.html

 

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Kelly also described Trump as a person who has no respect for POWs as he thinks they are ’suckers’ because there is nothing in it for them.

He added, Trump did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because it didn’t look good for him.

 

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susanlea Ruby Member

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1 hour ago, CallumWK said:

 

Talking about shooting yourself in the foot, you took it to the next level.

 

From your own link.

 

Walz made a comment about being in combat in a resurfaced clip from a political event in 2018, although the governor, who previously served 24 years in the Army National Guard, never went to war.

 

Speaking about gun control, Walz, who was a U.S. representative at the time, said in the 2018 clip, "We can make sure that those weapons of war that I carried in war is the only place where those weapons are at."

 

Walz has acknowledged that he never saw combat in the National Guard. Speaking to MPR News in 2018,

 

He never carried any weapons

Walz the phony.

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MicroB Advanced Member

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58 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

At least he wasn't a deserter like Walz

 

This was the allegation coming from James Hamel. James Hamel needs to explain how he managed only 6 months in Iraq out of 4 years service, mostly photographing birthday cakes, handshakes and oil changes, while fellow marines were enduring on average 14 month tours. Hamel also needs to explain why he decided not to transfer to the Marine Reserve, despite being a fit young man. He has to explain why after leaving the Corp, he took a conscious decision, as a grown man, to eschew the name he was known as while a Marine to take the name of his maternal Grandfather. Hamel was a good enough name when he joined the Marines, why was he so ashamed of it as he tried to break into Venture Capitalism? Afraid someone would remember him?

 

15% of WW2 veterans never picked up a rifle, but they were important to the effort. Today, 40% of service members will never deploy to a combat zone. Of those 60%, only 10% see any combat. But all are important. In the age of drones, those in the backend will increase, and their importance will increase.

 

My late father  served in the British army for 25 years, and was called back to the Colours for Operation Granby. Afterwards, he finally stood down. if he was still around, he'd punch out the lights of any armchair general who'd call him a deserter. He did his duty.

 

All service  people are deserving of respect, no matter what era they were in; if anything, its the reservists and part timers who are most deserving. During moments of national crisis, they perform the unenviable task of juggling two lives. My good American friend, a professor at a State University, has now seen 23 years service, after joining the Army Reserve folowing 911. He has spent 15 years on deployment, rising to unit command. All that time, he has worked in his educational duties at two colleges, thanks to online capabilities. Hamel, when he went to Iraq, was noted to be right away studying online at Ohio State for the day he would be an ex-Marine. As soon as he joined, he was already planning to leave. Good for him.

 

As a kid at the time, I remember 1981. That was when we were being prepped for WW3, told how to build bomb shelters in our homes, as tensions ratcheted between the USSR and USA. Walz, like a similarly aged Hamel 24 years later, took the proverbial shilling to service his country. If Walz didn't do that, like thousands of reservists and National Guardsmen at the time, there is a possibility that Hamel literally wouldn't exist in 2024, or he'll be Russian speaking.

 

Walz was deployed to Italy in 2003 as a Battle Casualty Replacement for Afghanistan. He went in the full expectation that he could be sent to Afghanistan to fill in a wrecked and combat ineffective unit that had been mullered at the hands of the Taliban. Hamel is now complaining not enough Americans died in Afghanistan so that Walz would have been sent there?

 

Hamel says he is fully transparent about his service. We have to take his word for that. We have no idea how he managed to serve so little in Iraq during his service. Why he decided to leave. Why he didn't transfer to the reserve. Why, during one Enlistment, and not being short of a few braincells (evidenced by is later Law degree), he only managed E-4; not exactly a stand out record for someone who wishes to be VP.

 

What Hamel did in Iraq

 

https://static.dvidshub.net/media/pubs/pdf_0376.pdf
https://www.dvidshub.net/news/5060/houston-native-comes-full-circle-iraq
https://www.dvidshub.net/image/11887/vmgr-252-air-crews-make-mission-possible-iraq
https://static.dvidshub.net/media/pubs/pdf_0357.pdf
https://static.dvidshub.net/media/pubs/pdf_6564.pdf

 

Hamel needs to explain why he voted against expanding VA benefits. Which Walz might benefit from; his military service meant he lost hearing due to artillary fire. When he re-enlisted in 2001, following 911 (and when his first born arrived), he had to go to a medical board to appeal against being thrown out due to medical disability.

 

Hamel is a vain man. He didn't like people laughing at him about supposed masturbation on a sofa. You can tellhe's vain because of that ridiculous beard he wears, to hide that pudgy chinless face. Plus all the eyeliner he wears (Trump likes men not afraid to wear makeup).

 

Hamel threw the stones first. Maybe more details will emerge of the 3.5 years he wasn't in Iraq and at Cherry Point.

Hanaguma Ruby Member

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6 hours ago, watthong said:

 

And same goes for Vance, who insisted "I did serve in war zone" - behind a desk, that is.

So keep digging.
 

Vance got a helluva lot closer to actual combat than Walz ever did. 

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JustMyOpinion Senior Member

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3 hours ago, MicroB said:

 

This was the allegation coming from James Hamel. James Hamel needs to explain how he managed only 6 months in Iraq out of 4 years service, mostly photographing birthday cakes, handshakes and oil changes, while fellow marines were enduring on average 14 month tours. Hamel also needs to explain why he decided not to transfer to the Marine Reserve, despite being a fit young man. He has to explain why after leaving the Corp, he took a conscious decision, as a grown man, to eschew the name he was known as while a Marine to take the name of his maternal Grandfather. Hamel was a good enough name when he joined the Marines, why was he so ashamed of it as he tried to break into Venture Capitalism? Afraid someone would remember him?

 

15% of WW2 veterans never picked up a rifle, but they were important to the effort. Today, 40% of service members will never deploy to a combat zone. Of those 60%, only 10% see any combat. But all are important. In the age of drones, those in the backend will increase, and their importance will increase.

 

My late father  served in the British army for 25 years, and was called back to the Colours for Operation Granby. Afterwards, he finally stood down. if he was still around, he'd punch out the lights of any armchair general who'd call him a deserter. He did his duty.

 

All service  people are deserving of respect, no matter what era they were in; if anything, its the reservists and part timers who are most deserving. During moments of national crisis, they perform the unenviable task of juggling two lives. My good American friend, a professor at a State University, has now seen 23 years service, after joining the Army Reserve folowing 911. He has spent 15 years on deployment, rising to unit command. All that time, he has worked in his educational duties at two colleges, thanks to online capabilities. Hamel, when he went to Iraq, was noted to be right away studying online at Ohio State for the day he would be an ex-Marine. As soon as he joined, he was already planning to leave. Good for him.

 

As a kid at the time, I remember 1981. That was when we were being prepped for WW3, told how to build bomb shelters in our homes, as tensions ratcheted between the USSR and USA. Walz, like a similarly aged Hamel 24 years later, took the proverbial shilling to service his country. If Walz didn't do that, like thousands of reservists and National Guardsmen at the time, there is a possibility that Hamel literally wouldn't exist in 2024, or he'll be Russian speaking.

 

Walz was deployed to Italy in 2003 as a Battle Casualty Replacement for Afghanistan. He went in the full expectation that he could be sent to Afghanistan to fill in a wrecked and combat ineffective unit that had been mullered at the hands of the Taliban. Hamel is now complaining not enough Americans died in Afghanistan so that Walz would have been sent there?

 

Hamel says he is fully transparent about his service. We have to take his word for that. We have no idea how he managed to serve so little in Iraq during his service. Why he decided to leave. Why he didn't transfer to the reserve. Why, during one Enlistment, and not being short of a few braincells (evidenced by is later Law degree), he only managed E-4; not exactly a stand out record for someone who wishes to be VP.

 

What Hamel did in Iraq

 

https://static.dvidshub.net/media/pubs/pdf_0376.pdf
https://www.dvidshub.net/news/5060/houston-native-comes-full-circle-iraq
https://www.dvidshub.net/image/11887/vmgr-252-air-crews-make-mission-possible-iraq
https://static.dvidshub.net/media/pubs/pdf_0357.pdf
https://static.dvidshub.net/media/pubs/pdf_6564.pdf

 

Hamel needs to explain why he voted against expanding VA benefits. Which Walz might benefit from; his military service meant he lost hearing due to artillary fire. When he re-enlisted in 2001, following 911 (and when his first born arrived), he had to go to a medical board to appeal against being thrown out due to medical disability.

 

Hamel is a vain man. He didn't like people laughing at him about supposed masturbation on a sofa. You can tellhe's vain because of that ridiculous beard he wears, to hide that pudgy chinless face. Plus all the eyeliner he wears (Trump likes men not afraid to wear makeup).

 

Hamel threw the stones first. Maybe more details will emerge of the 3.5 years he wasn't in Iraq and at Cherry Point.

Classic deflection... thank you.

JustMyOpinion Senior Member

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18 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Four deferments. Biden took five.

 7 Ways Americans Avoided the Draft During the Vietnam War... https://www.history.com/news/vietnam-war-draft-avoiding

 

The liberal left are ok with all seven ways except for trump claiming a medical exemption... it's not about not serving... it's about their hate... 

 

Joe's asthma cleared up right after TET... amazing recovery.  Politicians have come under fire for their use of medical deferments to stay out of the Vietnam War. Both Donald Trump and Joe Biden avoided the draft through a combination of student deferments and medical exemptions (“bone spurs” for Trump and “asthma” for Biden).

shdmn Platinum Member

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The Convicted felon and worlds biggest loser doing what he does best.  Making an arse of himself and embarrassing his whole country

 

 

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FriscoKid Silver Member

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On 8/12/2024 at 7:48 AM, shdmn said:

The Convicted felon and worlds biggest loser doing what he does best.  Making an arse of himself and embarrassing his whole country

 

 

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Making America Gag Again. 

FriscoKid Silver Member

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5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You can tell that military guy thinks he's dealing with a toddler brain. 


He read Trump's love letters to Kim and he's in fear of getting groped by the orange thing. 
 

 

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susanlea Ruby Member

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23 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You can tell that military guy thinks he's dealing with a toddler brain. 

Military guys have ripped Walz a new one.

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