Donald Trump’s speech during Musk interview sparks health concerns

[Danderman123]

Trump is giving a speech now, where he claims that Kamala Harris allows shoplifting up to $950 in California, and that criminals go into stores with calculators.

 

The reality is that shoplifting in California is illegal. A ballot proposition reduced shoplifting under $950 to a misdemeanor, which means up to a year in jail. But Kamala Harris had nothing to do with the ballot initiative and didn't take a position on it.

 

Trump is ignorant, as are many of his followers.

 

Trump hits Harris on decade-old California criminal justice policy

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[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, Danderman123 said:

Trump is giving a speech now, where he claims that Kamala Harris allows shoplifting up to $950 in California, and that criminals go into stores with calculators.

 

The reality is that shoplifting in California is illegal. A ballot proposition reduced shoplifting under $950 to a misdemeanor, which means up to a year in jail. But Kamala Harris had nothing to do with the ballot initiative and didn't take a position on it.

 

Trump is ignorant, as are many of his followers.

Yes, but as far as I know, Trump wants to close the border, does not want to mutilate children's genitals, and he supports meritocracy over DEI. That's enough for me, so I'll go with the ignorant but thanks. 

 

But I understand how important mutilation of children's genitals, keeping the border open, and ending meritocracy in favor of DEI are to you, so you should support Harris-Walz, they support those things as well.  

[luckymitchell]

13 hours ago, placeholder said:

Well, we sure can count on Trump to keep his promises:

 

Back to the Future: Trump’s History of Promising a Health Plan That Never Comes

Ever since he was a presidential candidate, President Donald Trump has been promising the American people a “terrific,” “phenomenal” and “fantastic” new health care plan to replace the Affordable Care Act.

But, in the 3½ years since he set up shop in the Oval Office, he has yet to deliver...

. Trump has promised an Obamacare replacement plan five times so far this year. And the plan is always said to be just a few weeks away.

https://kffhealthnews.org/news/back-to-the-future-trumps-history-of-promising-a-health-plan-that-never-comes/

 

 

Trump’s 2016 campaign pledges on infrastructure have fallen short, creating opening for Biden

Winkleman, 74, drives through a stretch of downtown Milwaukee that once served as a hub of U.S. manufacturing, pausing occasionally to note the factories that have either shuttered or moved their production to China over the past three decades: the Pabst and Schlitz breweries; the Allis-Chalmers manufacturing giant; several different tanneries; the Briggs & Stratton foundry; and Kearney & Trecker, which produced milling machines.

Winkleman voted for a Republican presidential candidate for the first time in his life in 2016, largely due to Donald Trump’s promise to bring back manufacturing jobs and invest $1 trillion to rebuild U.S. infrastructure in Rust Belt states like Wisconsin. This year, Winkleman will vote for former vice president Joe Biden, a decision sealed in part by Trump’s decision to pursue tax cuts — which Winkleman says primarily benefited the rich — over infrastructure investments. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/10/18/trump-biden-infrastructure-2020/

 

 

Trump draws ire after retreat on drug prices pledge

President Trump is backing off his 2016 campaign pledge to negotiate drug prices for Medicare with pharmaceutical companies, drawing fire from Democrats after months of talks on the issue with Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.).

During his campaign, Trump famously broke with Republican orthodoxy with his support for having the government negotiate lower drug prices.

“When it comes time to negotiate the cost of drugs, we are going to negotiate like crazy,” Trump said in New Hampshire in early 2016.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/471735-trump-draws-ire-after-retreat-on-drug-prices-pledge/

 

 the lower insulin price was started by trump, Biden just claimed the glory. Biden also kept the tariffs on China going. Biden has since put the same tariff of Chinese EV's that trump suggested a month previously (remember bloodbath)

There were no new wars and relative peace in the ME, and now look! the USA is at least 150billion out of pockets that could have gone to helping US citizens .

[transam]

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

Yes, but as far as I know, Trump wants to close the border, does not want to mutilate children's genitals, and he supports meritocracy over DEI. That's enough for me, so I'll go with the ignorant but thanks. 

 

But I understand how important mutilation of children's genitals, keeping the border open, and ending meritocracy in favor of DEI are to you, so you should support Harris-Walz, they support those things as well.  

Do you actually believe anything Trump says...?........😱...........😁

[placeholder]

30 minutes ago, luckymitchell said:

What lies did you hear, did you listened to the whole 2 hours interview ?

Actually I found the official transcript of the interview here.

https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/elon-musk-and-donald-trump-interview

So I'll be posting Trump's falsehoods on an occasional basis. Here's falsehood #1

Donald Trump (20:27😞

"Because look, Kamala was the Border Czar. Now she’s denying it."

Now here's the facts:

"But Biden didn’t put Harris in charge of overseeing border security.In a meeting with Harris in March 2021, Biden said Harris would lead U.S. diplomatic efforts and work with officials in Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras to stem migration to the U.S. Biden said that when he was vice president, he "got a similar assignment" and that the Obama administration secured $700 million to help countries in Central America."

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/jul/24/republican-national-committee-republican/border-czar-kamala-harris-assigned-to-tackle-immig/

 

 

 

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[Danderman123]

12 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Yes, but as far as I know, Trump wants to close the border, does not want to mutilate children's genitals, and he supports meritocracy over DEI. That's enough for me, so I'll go with the ignorant but thanks. 

 

But I understand how important mutilation of children's genitals, keeping the border open, and ending meritocracy in favor of DEI are to you, so you should support Harris-Walz, they support those things as well.  

Tell us about Kamala Harris wanting to mutilate children's genitals.

[Danderman123]

11 minutes ago, luckymitchell said:

 the lower insulin price was started by trump

Tell us more about Trump's glorious effort to reduce insulin prices.

[Thailand]

And Musk and Trump will be doing another MAGA to MAGA whatever it was on Monday 19th.

Obviously learnt nothing from the first fiasco!

[Will B Good]

3 minutes ago, Thailand said:

And Musk and Trump will be doing another MAGA to MAGA whatever it was on Monday 19th.

Obviously learnt nothing from the first fiasco!

 

Alarm set....post-its posted.....hand inked.....would not want to miss part II........hope it's as good as part I........🤭

[DustyShoes]

On 8/14/2024 at 4:24 PM, Red Forever said:

You write similarly to the suddenly absent Susanlea.

Are you related?

No. Good to know there are other intelligent, knowledgeable writers out there. Thank you for the compliment.

[placeholder]

40 minutes ago, luckymitchell said:

 the lower insulin price was started by trump, Biden just claimed the glory. Biden also kept the tariffs on China going. Biden has since put the same tariff of Chinese EV's that trump suggested a month previously (remember bloodbath)

There were no new wars and relative peace in the ME, and now look! the USA is at least 150billion out of pockets that could have gone to helping US citizens .

Trump is wrong in claiming full credit for loweringinsulin prices 

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20240718/Trump-is-wrong-in-claiming-full-credit-for-lowering-insulin-prices.aspx

 

You think his insulin plan is anything close to the big beautiful healthcare plan that he repeatedly promised and never delivered?

And what about his lie that he never tried to eliminate Obamacare but that he only wanted to replace it with something better? This after railing for years at John McCain for voting down his plan to eliminate Obamacare?

[DustyShoes]

On 8/14/2024 at 7:55 PM, placeholder said:

No. There are plenty of other venues. But the New York times has a lot at stake when it makes such claims. Because it knows that right wingers will jump at the chance to prove it wrong. Can you prove their claims wrong? You got a credible source that says differently? I think that what you've really got is nothing.

Intelligent people and most "right-wingers" don't need to "prove it wrong" because they already know most media is liberal biased, particularly NYT, and therefore inherently wrong or at least overly ignorant.

 

And you made my point, even doubling down. Your "source" said she was a specialist (lol), yet where is her fact checking for the progressive politicians?

 

My source? Common sense. And that trumps all.

 

Open your mind.

[luckymitchell]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Actually I found the official transcript of the interview here.

https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/elon-musk-and-donald-trump-interview

So I'll be posting Trump's falsehoods on an occasional basis. Here's falsehood #1

Donald Trump (20:27😞

"Because look, Kamala was the Border Czar. Now she’s denying it."

Now here's the facts:

"But Biden didn’t put Harris in charge of overseeing border security.In a meeting with Harris in March 2021, Biden said Harris would lead U.S. diplomatic efforts and work with officials in Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras to stem migration to the U.S. Biden said that when he was vice president, he "got a similar assignment" and that the Obama administration secured $700 million to help countries in Central America."

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/jul/24/republican-national-committee-republican/border-czar-kamala-harris-assigned-to-tackle-immig/

 

 

 

So why were the mainstream media calling her that for 3.5 years? Its well documented she was referred to as the border czar. So who is lying the MSM or trump for calling her What all the msm called her?

You can watch here from about 4:10 where he quotes Axios as using the term 'border czar'

 

As for politifact, well

[luckymitchell]

1 hour ago, Thailand said:

And Musk and Trump will be doing another MAGA to MAGA whatever it was on Monday 19th.

Obviously learnt nothing from the first fiasco!

He has offered Kamala too.There was no fiasco.

Just MSM trying their best to edit anything they can try to distort what was said, as usual, howecrr this time the original unedited version is there for all to see. Did you listen to it?

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, DustyShoes said:

Intelligent people and most "right-wingers" don't need to "prove it wrong" because they already know most media is liberal biased, particularly NYT, and therefore inherently wrong or at least overly ignorant.

 

And you made my point, even doubling down. Your "source" said she was a specialist (lol), yet where is her fact checking for the progressive politicians?

 

My source? Common sense. And that trumps all.

 

Open your mind.

You don't see so much fact checking for progressives because they don't lie as much as Trump.

 

However even you know that FOX News is available for fact checking, along with several MAGA news outlets. So, there is no lack of fact checking capability for progressives, just no so much material for them to work on.

[placeholder]

23 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

3,000,000 a year

Why, would that make it okay? But no, millions a year were not entering monthly or yearly under the Trump administration.

Ten to twenty millions since Biden took office, but year, with the election looking they turned it down. 

Yes. 

And as per usual no links to credible sources to back up your assertions. Until unless you manage to do that, you've got nothing.

[luckymitchell]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Trump is wrong in claiming full credit for loweringinsulin prices 

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20240718/Trump-is-wrong-in-claiming-full-credit-for-lowering-insulin-prices.aspx

 

You think his insulin plan is anything close to the big beautiful healthcare plan that he repeatedly promised and never delivered?

And what about his lie that he never tried to eliminate Obamacare but that he only wanted to replace it with something better? This after railing for years at John McCain for voting down his plan to eliminate Obamacare?

Lowering prescription drugs was what trump said he wanted to do... lower insulin cost was already in action, it came to fruition under Biden, so he claimed the glory, but it was started under trump.

Has Biden scrapped the tariff on Chinese imports Trump added?

 

 

[Thailand]

3 hours ago, luckymitchell said:

He has offered Kamala too.There was no fiasco.

Just MSM trying their best to edit anything they can try to distort what was said, as usual, howecrr this time the original unedited version is there for all to see. Did you listen to it?

Kamala would be chomping at the bit to go on the most MAGA  social media site to be "interviewed" by the  MAGA in chief Musk- NOT!

 

Wonder if the aged fat guy will remember his dentures this time?

[Roo Island]

5 hours ago, luckymitchell said:

What lies did you hear, did you listened to the whole 2 hours interview ?

No. Just got a recap listing his lies. Listening to Trump is like chewing aluminum foil. Disgusting.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2024/aug/13/donald-trump-rambles-and-lies-repeatedly-in-interview-with-elon-musk-video

[Roo Island]

1 hour ago, luckymitchell said:

Lowering prescription drugs was what trump said he wanted to do... lower insulin cost was already in action, it came to fruition under Biden, so he claimed the glory, but it was started under trump.

Has Biden scrapped the tariff on Chinese imports Trump added?

 

 

Tariffs only hurt workers and consumers. But it's great click bait for politicians

[DD86]

18 hours ago, watthong said:

 

"Ben, I've always wanted to meet you... Can we take a picture together? For 5,10,20 dollars?"

 

Really hope you enjoyed yourself. Thanks for the effort.

[Danderman123]

8 hours ago, luckymitchell said:

 the lower insulin price was started by trump, Biden just claimed the glory. Biden also kept the tariffs on China going. Biden has since put the same tariff of Chinese EV's that trump suggested a month previously (remember bloodbath)

There were no new wars and relative peace in the ME, and now look! the USA is at least 150billion out of pockets that could have gone to helping US citizens .

This is kind of true. Trump had a small pilot program to cap insulin for a small group.

 

Biden expanded it to everyone on Medicare Part D.

 

Do you think the $35 cap on insulin is a good idea?

[luckymitchell]

3 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

This is kind of true. Trump had a small pilot program to cap insulin for a small group.

 

Biden expanded it to everyone on Medicare Part D.

 

Do you think the $35 cap on insulin is a good idea?

Kind of true or fact?, trump wanted to lower the prices, it didn't get done during his presidency, one could argue dem filabuster..but Biden took the glory, how about trumps tariffs on chineses imports...did biden cancel them, or carry them on? How about trumps tariff on Chinese EVs, did Biden copy that? Seems trump had some good policies then Biden took over. Or do you deny that?

[luckymitchell]

9 hours ago, placeholder said:

And as per usual no links to credible sources to back up your assertions. Until unless you manage to do that, you've got nothing.

Credible sources, Are you for real? Your whole thread was made base on a non credible sources 'opinion' piece over an interview that was posted live. 

 

Really?

[luckymitchell]

7 hours ago, Roo Island said:

Tariffs only hurt workers and consumers. But it's great click bait for politicians

Ahh, so you'd rather buy cheap Chinese products than USA made. Because you want cheap, so you don't care for us workers losing their jobs to Chinese imports?

[Roo Island]

1 hour ago, luckymitchell said:

Kind of true or fact?, trump wanted to lower the prices, it didn't get done during his presidency, one could argue dem filabuster..but Biden took the glory, how about trumps tariffs on chineses imports...did biden cancel them, or carry them on? How about trumps tariff on Chinese EVs, did Biden copy that? Seems trump had some good policies then Biden took over. Or do you deny that?

Trump said he could get anything done. Initially. He controlled the house and the senate. Still couldn't get things done but now saying he can. Right....

 

Tariffs are terrible economically

[Roo Island]

42 minutes ago, luckymitchell said:

Ahh, so you'd rather buy cheap Chinese products than USA made. Because you want cheap, so you don't care for us workers losing their jobs to Chinese imports?

For sure! If American workers can't be competitive, then up their game or get into industries where they are great. Like technology, medical, financial. Let other countries produce the cheap stuff. As a consumer, I want quality, low priced products.

[puck2]

On 8/14/2024 at 4:27 PM, susanlea said:

He is friends with Shaq and Mike Tyson. They speak highly

of him. People speak lowly of Harris and nobody knows what friends she has if any 

 

Wasn't Mike Tyson a successful boxer? Boxers receive a lot of hits on their brain .... an evidence for "speak highly of him" (Trump).   

What a joke !

[shdmn]

The convicted felon is unintentionally campaigning for Harris now.

 

 

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[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, luckymitchell said:

Kind of true or fact?, trump wanted to lower the prices, it didn't get done during his presidency, one could argue dem filabuster..but Biden took the glory, how about trumps tariffs on chineses imports...did biden cancel them, or carry them on? How about trumps tariff on Chinese EVs, did Biden copy that? Seems trump had some good policies then Biden took over. Or do you deny that?

I'm not crazy about tariffs. I think the EV tariff is a mistake.