JD Vance is one of the least popular vice-presidential picks this century

[maesariang]

12 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Do you think Trump will drop JD Vance in favor of a real VP candidate?

Do you think Harris will do an interview? 

[shdmn]

7 hours ago, maesariang said:

Do you think Harris will do an interview? 

 

Meanwhile, back in reality.

 

 

Edited August 20 by shdmn

[Will B Good]

Can this guy get any dumber.....?

 

 

[Berkshire]

50 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Can this guy get any dumber.....?

 

 

55555....good one.  His friend's initials are DJT and his last name rhymes with "Rump." 

[bamnutsak]

He wasn't weird at all trying to order donuts.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDvkt2VkArg

 

He has zero self-awareness, and can't seem to establish a connection with non-weird normal people.

 

I think Mamaw dropped him on his head more than once.

 

 

[Jingthing]

He's pathetic but if sickly insane dotard Trump comes to.power he's a heart beat away.

[maesariang]

8 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

He wasn't weird at all trying to order donuts.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDvkt2VkArg

 

He has zero self-awareness, and can't seem to establish a connection with non-weird normal people.

 

I think Mamaw dropped him on his head more than once.

 

 

Talks normal

 

Nothing like the passage of time crap

[maesariang]

7 hours ago, Jingthing said:

He's pathetic but if sickly insane dotard Trump comes to.power he's a heart beat away.

Talks like 75% of people. Totally normal. Walz hands out tampons. Kamala is super weird.

[still kicking]

2 minutes ago, maesariang said:

Talks like 75% of people. Totally normal. Walz hands out tampons. Kamala is super weird.

And you have a big gob and talk just nonsense 

[luckymitchell]

On 8/16/2024 at 10:34 PM, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

...

"Americans aren't vibing with the Republican vice-presidential nominee. On average, only 33 percent have a favorable opinion of Sen. JD Vance, while 42 percent have an unfavorable one.

 

Americans were cool toward Vance from the start: Three days* after he was announced as former President Donald Trump's running mate, his net favorability rating was -3 percentage points (26 percent favorable, 29 percent unfavorable). But since then, he has faced a rash of bad headlines about his past comments calling Harris a "childless cat lady," his past support for a national abortion ban and even a baseless internet rumor about having sex with a couch. The poor rollout pushed his net favorability rating down even further, to -9 points.

 

That is a historically bad net favorability rating for a vice-presidential candidate. We applied our current favorability polling average formula to old polls of six freshly minted VP picks from the past 20 years,** and none of them ever had an average net favorability rating as low as Vance's."

 

(more)

 

https://abcnews.go.com/538/tim-walz-popular-jd-vance/story?id=112841577

 

Footnotes

*This was the earliest that we had enough national polls of Vance's favorability to generate a polling average for it.

**All but then-Sen. Joe Biden in 2008, for whom we didn't have data.

 

In contrast, from the same source above:

 

 

Oh look, a poll from Abc...must be factual then🤔. I am surprised you came out from behind your  COVID panic sofa

[luckymitchell]

8 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

He wasn't weird at all trying to order donuts.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDvkt2VkArg

 

He has zero self-awareness, and can't seem to establish a connection with non-weird normal people.

 

I think Mamaw dropped him on his head more than once.

 

 

Wow... you posted that as sersious?

[Galong]

On 8/17/2024 at 7:22 AM, Cryingdick said:

Kamala is the least popular VP, so he is in good company.

Americans aren't overly intelligent. Do you actually expect them to look into what she's done while in office?  Serving the country isn't supposed to be a popularity contest. 

[mogandave]

1 minute ago, Galong said:

Americans aren't overly intelligent. Do you actually expect them to look into what she's done while in office?  Serving the country isn't supposed to be a popularity contest. 

What has she done in office? 

 

Border Czar? How’s that work out?

[mogandave]

5 minutes ago, luckymitchell said:

Wow... you posted that as sersious?

To the the left, anyone that works fo a living, wants to raise a family, does not want the country flooded with illegals, does not hate the rich, and does not want the state to be allowed to take children from their parents such that they can mutilate their genitals is a weirdo. 

 

 

[jaywalker2]

On 8/16/2024 at 11:02 PM, novacova said:

Good grief…what rock have you been living under? For worst vp in the history of the USA, you can start with one of the biggest political vp failures in US history which is undoubtedly Harris, and of course Biden and many others. But any sensible individual would understand that folks being drenched educated and enslaved by the media would never know anything outside of that inverted realm.

Did you forget about Sarah Palin? Don Quayle? The Republicans have a history of bad VP picks

[Hummin]

6 hours ago, maesariang said:

Talks like 75% of people. Totally normal. Walz hands out tampons. Kamala is super weird.

There you where 😁

[MicroB]

5 hours ago, jaywalker2 said:

Did you forget about Sarah Palin? Don Quayle? The Republicans have a history of bad VP picks

 

 

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2024-07-07/vice-president-trump-biden-running-mate-election-2024

 

Couple of wartime Democrat VPs there who were terrible for reasons no one can remember.

 

Polls like this come out everytime there is an election because one or both of the has to be "terrible" according the the candidates. Thats why they are campaigning.

 

In slightly less febrile times;

 

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4103153-kamala-harris-is-far-from-the-worst-vice-president-why-do-polls-say-otherwise/

 

At every elections, half truths and sometimes are spouted, as politicians scramble for every vote. The outright lies usually get found out during the campaign, and then its some action to mitigate the harm. But now its gotten to new heights. Take the case of George Santos; it seems utterly absurd how such a person got anywhere near office. But now its routine, and the lying is influential, even when found out.

 

I know some people dismiss the role of a malign power like Putin's Russia, but this is what he has done. He has undermined our faith in politics such that "we" believe politicians are all liars, but we vote for them anyhow, like in Putin's Russia. There are a few of reasons for that.

 

One is to shore himself up at home; there is political opposition in Russia, but its small, and the people indifferent. If he can demonstrate the Western democracies are rotten, then that undermines the messages of the opposition groups.

 

Then there is the mission to extend Russia's influence overseas. Putin still believes in the USSR (greatest tragedy of the 20th century etc) and believes Russia is still a super power (the war in Ukraine is demonstrating it is not). He believes Russia is in competition with the USA for the souls of the world (ignoring China, and forgetting about Islam, given 10% of Russians are Muslim). He's embraced this Eurasian nonsense, which signals out the "Atlanticists" (the USA, Canada, Britain, Australia-New Zealand) as being the cause of all the world's woes, and seriously believes the world is better off without us. To win his hearts and minds, he's got to persuade the world that the Atlanticists are a rotten lot, not to be trusted, and part of that is making a mess of a societies, so that no one thinks about things like parliamentary elections again. His brutal support of Syria was to demonstrate that only Russia can bring order, not America. Its easily forgotten that despite all the flag burning, many Arabs love America. They might not like America's policies, but they love the idea of America, hence the many influential American Universities in the region. He needs to snuff that out, and disappoint them. In Syria, his policies were to ensure that the Russian navy still had refuelling facilties in Syria, which is utterly essential for any of the Black Sea fleet, whats left of it, to operate out of the Black Sea.

 

The third objective of his undermining of Western democracies is to paralyse us. The polarisation of societies in the US, Canada, UK, France, Germany and Italy is intended to undermine our ability to come to collective decisions, react to events, and sew distrust. 5 Eyes depends on utter trust between the allies and their leadership, but now apparently, elements within the previous UK government were talking about gaming out a Trump win as a worst case scenario, and how the UK Armed Forces need to prepare for that (eg exiting of US bases from the UK, various capabilty agreements coming to an end, cessation of cooperation between UK and US forces). Trump can't actually take the US out of NATO; he won't live long enough given the process, but what he can do is to stop the US acting as an ally, follow the French approach of non-cooperation. If that happened, there are practical things the UK needs to do, such as figuring out how to secure control of Trident (or indeed, getting rid of it), canceling the F35 orders and so forth.

 

How did we get to that point; two countries with a much vaunted Special Relationship, now distrusting each other. Trumpf is reportedly anti-NATO, and views it as a protection racket. His VP (who, as far as I can see, has achieved FA during his short working career) is even more anti-NATO, despite a service career

 

[MicroB]

6 hours ago, jaywalker2 said:

Did you forget about Sarah Palin? Don Quayle? The Republicans have a history of bad VP picks

 

Palin doesn't seem so terrible now. And she had some proper achievements in Public Service before.

[jaywalker2]

1 hour ago, MicroB said:

 

 

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2024-07-07/vice-president-trump-biden-running-mate-election-2024

 

Couple of wartime Democrat VPs there who were terrible for reasons no one can remember.

 

Polls like this come out everytime there is an election because one or both of the has to be "terrible" according the the candidates. Thats why they are campaigning.

 

In slightly less febrile times;

 

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4103153-kamala-harris-is-far-from-the-worst-vice-president-why-do-polls-say-otherwise/

 

At every elections, half truths and sometimes are spouted, as politicians scramble for every vote. The outright lies usually get found out during the campaign, and then its some action to mitigate the harm. But now its gotten to new heights. Take the case of George Santos; it seems utterly absurd how such a person got anywhere near office. But now its routine, and the lying is influential, even when found out.

 

I know some people dismiss the role of a malign power like Putin's Russia, but this is what he has done. He has undermined our faith in politics such that "we" believe politicians are all liars, but we vote for them anyhow, like in Putin's Russia. There are a few of reasons for that.

 

One is to shore himself up at home; there is political opposition in Russia, but its small, and the people indifferent. If he can demonstrate the Western democracies are rotten, then that undermines the messages of the opposition groups.

 

Then there is the mission to extend Russia's influence overseas. Putin still believes in the USSR (greatest tragedy of the 20th century etc) and believes Russia is still a super power (the war in Ukraine is demonstrating it is not). He believes Russia is in competition with the USA for the souls of the world (ignoring China, and forgetting about Islam, given 10% of Russians are Muslim). He's embraced this Eurasian nonsense, which signals out the "Atlanticists" (the USA, Canada, Britain, Australia-New Zealand) as being the cause of all the world's woes, and seriously believes the world is better off without us. To win his hearts and minds, he's got to persuade the world that the Atlanticists are a rotten lot, not to be trusted, and part of that is making a mess of a societies, so that no one thinks about things like parliamentary elections again. His brutal support of Syria was to demonstrate that only Russia can bring order, not America. Its easily forgotten that despite all the flag burning, many Arabs love America. They might not like America's policies, but they love the idea of America, hence the many influential American Universities in the region. He needs to snuff that out, and disappoint them. In Syria, his policies were to ensure that the Russian navy still had refuelling facilties in Syria, which is utterly essential for any of the Black Sea fleet, whats left of it, to operate out of the Black Sea.

 

The third objective of his undermining of Western democracies is to paralyse us. The polarisation of societies in the US, Canada, UK, France, Germany and Italy is intended to undermine our ability to come to collective decisions, react to events, and sew distrust. 5 Eyes depends on utter trust between the allies and their leadership, but now apparently, elements within the previous UK government were talking about gaming out a Trump win as a worst case scenario, and how the UK Armed Forces need to prepare for that (eg exiting of US bases from the UK, various capabilty agreements coming to an end, cessation of cooperation between UK and US forces). Trump can't actually take the US out of NATO; he won't live long enough given the process, but what he can do is to stop the US acting as an ally, follow the French approach of non-cooperation. If that happened, there are practical things the UK needs to do, such as figuring out how to secure control of Trident (or indeed, getting rid of it), canceling the F35 orders and so forth.

 

How did we get to that point; two countries with a much vaunted Special Relationship, now distrusting each other. Trumpf is reportedly anti-NATO, and views it as a protection racket. His VP (who, as far as I can see, has achieved FA during his short working career) is even more anti-NATO, despite a service career

 

My point wasn't that she was a good choice. Only that there have been others far worse. And don’t forget Dick Cheney

[bamnutsak]

 

 

A good side by side. Skeevy, cringey weird JD Vance vs Real guy.

 

JD gives off serial killer vibes.

[Hanaguma]

20 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

 

 

A good side by side. Skeevy, cringey weird JD Vance vs Real guy.

 

JD gives off serial killer vibes.

One who served his country, went to Iraq with his unit, and completed his enlistment.  And one who didn't. 

One with private sector experience and one who is a lifelong "nose in the government trough" guy. 

 

I Know which I would choose.

[MicroB]

Vance might be interested in this

 

https://www.trumpytrout.com/?mid=12243062

 

Pretty mouth

 

 

 

[maesariang]

8 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

One who served his country, went to Iraq with his unit, and completed his enlistment.  And one who didn't. 

One with private sector experience and one who is a lifelong "nose in the government trough" guy. 

 

I Know which I would choose.

One who is smart, one who is dumb

One who is young, one who looks old

One who wants low food prices, one who wants free tampons

[maesariang]

8 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

 

 

A good side by side. Skeevy, cringey weird JD Vance vs Real guy.

 

JD gives off serial killer vibes.

Vance talks like a normal guy. The other guy is a fake coward.

[Digitalbanana]

5 minutes ago, maesariang said:

Vance talks like a normal guy. The other guy is a fake coward.

Only a weird person could conclude thus.

[maesariang]

Just now, Digitalbanana said:

Only a weird person could conclude thus.

Only a weird person supports tampons for boys.

[maesariang]

Only a weird person supports fake war heros. Walz is a complete coward and a phony.

[MicroB]

8 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

One who served his country, went to Iraq with his unit, and completed his enlistment.  And one who didn't. 

One with private sector experience and one who is a lifelong "nose in the government trough" guy. 

 

I Know which I would choose.

 

Both of them served their country. Both of them also serve their country through the ballot box, so I am not sure why you are disrespecting people who seek elected office, irrespective of their political journey. Of course, when in office, some of them, like those in the military at times, are disputable, but that should diminish their original ambition to serve their country. Lots of people serve their country; in the military, in the police, in the fire services, in government service. Those who juggle a civilian life and a military life often make the greatest sacrifice; modern Western militaries are utterly dependant now on reservists, which allows a surget capacity during war. I suspect Hamel only joined up to take advantage of free college education, courtest of the taxpayer, and made sure he didn't have to do a role that was too risky, nor demanded much time away from home. He got to stay for over 3 years in North Carolina. Nothing wrong with that; everyone eats at the trough when they can.

 

Both completed their enlistments, one went before a medical board to appeal his reenlistment after completing a 20 year enlistment. One managed 6 months out of 4 years in Iraq, taking photos of birthday cakes and handshakes, when their fellow service people were doing 12-18 month tours, sometimes back to back with Afghanistan.

 

One was told about sucking penises by his Grandmother when he was 8 years old during a discussion about whether the 8 year old was a homosexual; a remarkable and brave confession. Does he continue such open sexualisation with his children? And does he determine if his children are homosexual or heterosexual at age 8?

 

One spent working career as an educator, but I do understand people who hate educators because education is where people with elite skills learn their skills, and go on to get PhDs, find cures for cancer, design rocket ships, invent  crypto, because these are things people wit elite skills can do. Some people without elite skills hate the "elites". That job as a geography teacher followed working in a factory, assembling tanning beds of all things (Trumpf; take note).

 

One had a little bit of VC fintech experience. And that person, investors couldn't actually recall what he did at Revolution. One got into the SPAC fad. Its not hard work really, going from meeting to meeting watching the coffee intake.

 

https://www.axios.com/2024/07/16/jd-vance-venture-capital-career

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/08/jd-vance-financial-investments

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/know-j-d-vance-vc-114105413.html

 

I wouldn't over egg his business skills. VC is also fully embedded in the government trough.

 

His activity with AmplifyBio is interesting; this is a company into cell therapy, manipulations of the genome to address disease. Which is part of what all these anti-Vaxxer fret about. AmplifyBio is primarily a CRO; they undertake contract work for other clients, such as animal testing (mostly beagles and monkey it seems, with the animals euthanised when the contract is over). They work with stem cells; it has a policy of not asking its clients if the cell lines they are working with are embryonic or not. Which seems at odds with Hamel's statements that he is 100% Pro-Life. Basically he invested in a company that profited from what some would call dead babies. Obviously not, if there is money to be made. I have zero issue with this kind of research.  Interestingly, this company seeks applicants from the “LGBTQIA+ community” and says it forbids discrimination based on “gender expression” and even “citizenship status.” Also, the company requires COVID-19 vaccination.

 

He's got a bit of a thing about this gene therapy research, because he's also invested in Kriya Therapeutics, which has a pipeline covering diabetes, eye disease and neurodegenerative disease, not based on stem cell transplantation, but using virus vectors to manipulate the genome. For this, they have to conduct experiments with one of the cold viruses, hopefully not affecting virulance.

[Hanaguma]

1 minute ago, MicroB said:

 

Both of them served their country. Both of them also serve their country through the ballot box, so I am not sure why you are disrespecting people who seek elected office, irrespective of their political journey. Of course, when in office, some of them, like those in the military at times, are disputable, but that should diminish their original ambition to serve their country. Lots of people serve their country; in the military, in the police, in the fire services, in government service. Those who juggle a civilian life and a military life often make the greatest sacrifice; modern Western militaries are utterly dependant now on reservists, which allows a surget capacity during war. I suspect Hamel only joined up to take advantage of free college education, courtest of the taxpayer, and made sure he didn't have to do a role that was too risky, nor demanded much time away from home. He got to stay for over 3 years in North Carolina. Nothing wrong with that; everyone eats at the trough when they can.

 

Both completed their enlistments, one went before a medical board to appeal his reenlistment after completing a 20 year enlistment. One managed 6 months out of 4 years in Iraq, taking photos of birthday cakes and handshakes, when their fellow service people were doing 12-18 month tours, sometimes back to back with Afghanistan.

 

One was told about sucking penises by his Grandmother when he was 8 years old during a discussion about whether the 8 year old was a homosexual; a remarkable and brave confession. Does he continue such open sexualisation with his children? And does he determine if his children are homosexual or heterosexual at age 8?

 

One spent working career as an educator, but I do understand people who hate educators because education is where people with elite skills learn their skills, and go on to get PhDs, find cures for cancer, design rocket ships, invent  crypto, because these are things people wit elite skills can do. Some people without elite skills hate the "elites". That job as a geography teacher followed working in a factory, assembling tanning beds of all things (Trumpf; take note).

 

One had a little bit of VC fintech experience. And that person, investors couldn't actually recall what he did at Revolution. One got into the SPAC fad. Its not hard work really, going from meeting to meeting watching the coffee intake.

 

https://www.axios.com/2024/07/16/jd-vance-venture-capital-career

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/08/jd-vance-financial-investments

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/know-j-d-vance-vc-114105413.html

 

I wouldn't over egg his business skills. VC is also fully embedded in the government trough.

 

His activity with AmplifyBio is interesting; this is a company into cell therapy, manipulations of the genome to address disease. Which is part of what all these anti-Vaxxer fret about. AmplifyBio is primarily a CRO; they undertake contract work for other clients, such as animal testing (mostly beagles and monkey it seems, with the animals euthanised when the contract is over). They work with stem cells; it has a policy of not asking its clients if the cell lines they are working with are embryonic or not. Which seems at odds with Hamel's statements that he is 100% Pro-Life. Basically he invested in a company that profited from what some would call dead babies. Obviously not, if there is money to be made. I have zero issue with this kind of research.  Interestingly, this company seeks applicants from the “LGBTQIA+ community” and says it forbids discrimination based on “gender expression” and even “citizenship status.” Also, the company requires COVID-19 vaccination.

 

He's got a bit of a thing about this gene therapy research, because he's also invested in Kriya Therapeutics, which has a pipeline covering diabetes, eye disease and neurodegenerative disease, not based on stem cell transplantation, but using virus vectors to manipulate the genome. For this, they have to conduct experiments with one of the cold viruses, hopefully not affecting virulance.

That is an awfully long diatribe to paper over the fact that Walz quit in the middle of his enlistment contract once he learned that his unit would be going overseas. And lied about his service after he quit. Lied repeatedly. Let others lie for him and didnt correct them.   My father used to say that some people like to throw a lot of <deleted> against the wall until some of it sticks.  

 

Keep throwing, my friend. 

[maesariang]

On 8/17/2024 at 1:23 PM, Danderman123 said:

I have seen JD Vance in a debate.

 

He's a stiff.

You saw he stiff.