Non-B to DTV

[Avi113]

Hi,

 

I have a Non-B visa and would like to do the DTV.

That means I want to remove the Non-B and get the DTV as my new visa.

 

My question is if that's possible. I tried emailing embassies but got 0 replies, so I'm lost in the dark here.

[Rob Browder]

A 90-Day entry from a Non-B Visa, or a 1-year extension from Immigration?

If on a Visa entry, you leave, and it's gone, unless you have a re-entry permit, or it is a "multiple entry" visa - but I think the Non-B-ME Visas were phased out? 

If on an extension, currently, you would need to take a letter showing the date your work will end to immigration, and get your Non-B extension canceled.  The date can be in the future, so you don't have to leave that day, or pay for a "7 days to leave" extension. 

Then, you leave, and go apply for your DTV.   What visa / extension you had before should not matter.

[Avi113]

17 minutes ago, Rob Browder said:

1-year extension from Immigration?

Thank you for your answer.

 

I have a 1-year extension—single entry.

 

Can immigration cancel my non-B extension, or do I need to do this in Thailand?

 

I own 49% of the company and want to close it. So basically, do I have to show them proof of closing the company and a date I will stop working?

[Rob Browder]

On 8/18/2024 at 3:01 PM, Avi113 said:

Thank you for your answer.

 

I have a 1-year extension—single entry.

 

Can immigration cancel my non-B extension, or do I need to do this in Thailand?

 

I own 49% of the company and want to close it. So basically, do I have to show them proof of closing the company and a date I will stop working?

You would need to cancel your Non-B extension at immigration in Thailand.

Others are better experienced in detailing the process of closing a company, which I have never done.  But, a letter where "the company" gives you a "will cease working on <date> letter should work.    You could own part of a company without obtaining a work-permit, so I do not see any reason you would need to show proof you closed the company.

 

With that letter, Immigration will change your "permitted stay" to the same date in the letter.  Failing to do this can lead to problems with immigration in the future.

[jumbo]

So what is the advise on the OP question on changing from Non B to DTV inside Thailand???

[Rob Browder]

On 9/15/2024 at 9:51 AM, jumbo said:

So what is the advise on the OP question on changing from Non B to DTV inside Thailand???

There is no way to obtain a DTV "within Thailand" - must leave and go to a Thai consulate to apply.  We have some success reports from Vientiane and others.

 

If someone is on a Non-B extension, they need to cancel their extension at immigration before leaving the country, to avoid problems later with immigration.

[FlyingThai]

On 8/20/2024 at 5:22 PM, Rob Browder said:

You would need to cancel your Non-B extension at immigration in Thailand.

Others are better experienced in detailing the process of closing a company, which I have never done.  But, a letter where "the company" gives you a "will cease working on <date> letter should work.    You could own part of a company without obtaining a work-permit, so I do not see any reason you would need to show proof you closed the company.

 

With that letter, Immigration will change your "permitted stay" to the same date in the letter.  Failing to do this can lead to problems with immigration in the future.

 

Wouldn't a visa be automatically canceled when leaving the country without a re-entry permit?

[BrandonJT]

14 hours ago, FlyingThai said:

 

Wouldn't a visa be automatically canceled when leaving the country without a re-entry permit?

That has nothing to do with this.  A work extension MUST be cancelled, even if you just let it run out, or leave without a re-entry permit, you still MUST cancel it.  If you don't cancel it, you likely cannot get a new long-term visa or new long-term extension until you do so, and will also be fined 500 baht per day for failing to do so.  There are also land borders that won't even let you leave Thailand if you haven't cancelled your work extension and don't have a re-entry permit.

Same goes for education extensions and volunteer extensions.

[FlyingThai]

3 hours ago, BrandonJT said:

That has nothing to do with this.  A work extension MUST be cancelled, even if you just let it run out, or leave without a re-entry permit, you still MUST cancel it.  If you don't cancel it, you likely cannot get a new long-term visa or new long-term extension until you do so, and will also be fined 500 baht per day for failing to do so.  There are also land borders that won't even let you leave Thailand if you haven't cancelled your work extension and don't have a re-entry permit.

Same goes for education extensions and volunteer extensions.

 

For the latter part, I can 100% say that isn't the case, as I had both ED Visas (University) and Volunteer visas/extensions (Foundation) before and never once manually canceled any of them. You might be right about the work permit, though.

[jumbo]

On 9/16/2024 at 5:33 PM, Rob Browder said:

There is no way to obtain a DTV "within Thailand" - must leave and go to a Thai consulate to apply.  We have some success reports from Vientiane and others.

 

 

I found that to be correct as well

 

[jumbo]

9 hours ago, BrandonJT said:

That has nothing to do with this.  A work extension MUST be cancelled, even if you just let it run out, or leave without a re-entry permit, you still MUST cancel it.  If you don't cancel it, you likely cannot get a new long-term visa or new long-term extension until you do so, and will also be fined 500 baht per day for failing to do so.  There are also land borders that won't even let you leave Thailand if you haven't cancelled your work extension and don't have a re-entry permit.

 

 

Two of my colleagues, with kids, left in a hurry right before Covid blocked all kind of things. Both never cancelled their extension, nor work permit. Company did that for them while they were abroad.

One of them returned in 2022 I think it was, no issues nothing