Mass Protests in Israel as IDF Retrieves 6 Bodies of Hostages Murdered by Hamas

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Autopsy Confirms Hostages Were Executed by Hamas as Israeli Forces Advanced

 

An autopsy has revealed that the six hostages recovered from the Gaza Strip over the weekend were shot multiple times at close range, confirming that they were executed by Hamas militants. The findings, released by the Health Ministry on Sunday, indicated that the hostages were killed 48 to 72 hours prior to their autopsies, placing their deaths between Thursday and Friday morning.

 

The examination, conducted by the Abu Kabir Forensic Institute, determined that all six hostages had been shot from close range, leading to the conclusion that they were deliberately executed. The Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) had earlier reported that Hamas terrorists killed the hostages shortly before their bodies were discovered by troops on Saturday afternoon in a tunnel complex in Rafah, southern Gaza.

 

According to reports from Channel 12, Israeli security officials fear that Hamas executed the hostages out of concern that information might be leaked about the whereabouts of other captives. This fear was allegedly heightened after a hostage rescued from a nearby tunnel last week might have divulged critical details.

 

The murders have sparked outrage and further confirmed the view that Hamas is not interested in negotiating a ceasefire deal. Jonathan Conricus, a former Israel Defense Forces spokesman, expressed his condemnation, stating, "Words that don't mix are good faith and Hamas. They abducted women, children, civilians, the elderly, and babies and have been holding onto them now for 331 days. If you look at their actions, I think you can make the assumption that they're not going to negotiate and they're not interested in returning hostages."

 

The tragic deaths of the hostages also drew a sharp rebuke from former U.S. President Donald Trump, who criticized the current U.S. administration. Posting on his Truth Social network, Trump stated, "The deaths of the Israeli hostages, among them American-Israeli Hersh Goldberg-Polin, happened because Comrade Kamala Harris and Crooked Joe Biden are poor leaders. Americans are getting slaughtered overseas… They have blood on their hands! Sadly, this is the total lack of ‘Leadership’ that Kamala and Biden represent." He further claimed, "This terror would have never happened if I were President, and it will stop the day I am back in the Oval Office."

 

International condemnation followed, with UK Foreign Secretary David Lammy issuing a statement: "The UK condemns Hamas’ appalling murder of six innocent hostages in Gaza in the strongest terms. I offer my deepest condolences to those grieving at this awful time. Hamas must release all the hostages immediately, and all sides must accept the deal on the table to end this war."

 

U.S. Representative Adam Schiff also expressed his anger and grief over the deaths, particularly of Hersh Goldberg-Polin, a young American-Israeli. "I am devastated and outraged. Hersh was among the innocents brutally attacked while attending a music festival for peace in Israel on October 7. He lost his arm helping friends and strangers during Hamas’ savage massacre. He had just turned 23. He planned to travel the world."

 

The killings have fueled widespread anger and sorrow across Israel, leading to mass protests on Thursday. The Hostages and Missing Families Forum estimated that around 300,000 people rallied in solidarity with the hostage families, blocking major roads, including the Ayalon Highway, in a show of collective grief and defiance. The murders have deepened the already intense conflict, further complicating the possibility of peace in the region.

 

Credit: MSM 2024-09-02

 

 

 

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[Bkk Brian]

Sick..............

 

https://x.com/AvivaKlompas/status/1830373386658451868

 

It was the same with the last 6 hostage bodies recovered around 10 days ago, they had also been murdered.

 

Bullets found in bodies of Israeli hostages retrieved from Gaza

JERUSALEM, Aug 22 (Reuters) - Bullets were found in the bodies of the six Israeli hostages retrieved from Gaza this week, the Israeli military and the Hostage Families Forum campaign group said on Thursday.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/bullets-found-bodies-israeli-hostages-retrieved-gaza-hostage-families-forum-says-2024-08-22/

 

https://x.com/antonioguterres/status/1830184256196206710

 

[stevenl]

What is missing here is that the protests are against the present Israeli leadership.

[coolcarer]

A mixed bag of protestors as in all democracies. The one thing in common however is the sheer horror of the murders by Hamas

 

Hawkish hostage families urge PM to cease hostage talks with Hamas after bodies recovered

The hawkish Tikva Forum of hostage families calls on Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to cease negotiations for a hostage deal with Hamas after the bodies of six murdered captives were recovered from the Gaza Strip.
The forum extends its condolences to the families, adding that the deaths of the hostages serve as a reminder of “the bitter enemy we are fighting.”
“They are murderers and rapists of the lowest kind. Human animals. In these difficult moments we support the heroic IDF soldiers who give their lives to rescue the hostages,” the forum says, urging the country to unite in prayer for the safety of the captives and troops.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/hawkish-hostage-families-urge-pm-to-cease-hostage-talks-with-hamas-after-bodies-recovered/

 

About Us:
The Tikva Forum was started by parents and siblings of Israelis kidnapped into Gaza during the murderous attacks on Simchat Torah / October 7th. Their loved ones are being held hostage by Gazan terrorists, who demand that Israel release terrorists and murderers in order to secure the hostages’ release. 
The Tikva Forum, composed of hostages’ families and friends, is dedicated to the release of every single person in Gazan captivity by means which strengthen the State of Israel and its security. 

https://forum-tikva.org.il/eng/

[thaibeachlovers]

23 hours ago, Social Media said:

According to reports from Channel 12, Israeli security officials fear that Hamas executed the hostages out of concern that information might be leaked about the whereabouts of other captives.

As I pointed out previously, likely they were killed to prevent being rescued by the IDF. As seen on Al Jazeera, it seems that the people supervising the hostages have been given orders concerning what to do in the event a rescue is likely.

 

Looks like the IDF have failed in both their objectives, to eliminate Hamas and rescue the hostages, and the only way to get any more out alive is to have a ceasefire and hostage prisoner exchange.

[Yagoda]

Nice to see protests not met with machine gun fire like in Iran.

 

An American was murdered. Far as I am I am concerned, we should bomb Tehran.

[Social Media]

Post removed for making more unsubstanitated claims on what was seen on AJ and what you claim Netanyahu was saying @thaibeachlovers

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

11 hours ago, stevenl said:

What is missing here is that the protests are against the present Israeli leadership.

Agreed.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/9/1/israels-war-on-gaza-live-real-ceasefire-calls-for-polio-vaccine-drive

Fury and frustration among Israeli demonstrators

Thousands of people, some of them weeping, gathered outside Prime Minister Netanyahu’s office in West Jerusalem. In Tel Aviv, captives’ relatives marched with coffins to symbolise the death toll.

“We really think the government is making these decisions for its own conservation and not for the lives of the hostages, and we need to tell them, ‘Stop!'” said Shlomit Hacohen, a Tel Aviv resident.

Edited September 2 by thaibeachlovers

[thaibeachlovers]

23 hours ago, Social Media said:

According to reports from Channel 12, Israeli security officials fear that Hamas executed the hostages out of concern that information might be leaked about the whereabouts of other captives.

As I suggested previously

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/9/2/israeli-war-on-gaza-live-israel-bombs-school-killing-11-palestinians

Hamas’s armed wing has issued new instructions to guards handling captives if Israeli forces approach Gaza detention sites.

“Netanyahu’s insistence on releasing the prisoners through military pressure – instead of concluding a deal – will mean they’ll be returned to their families in coffins,” Qassam Brigades spokesman Abu Obeida said.

[thaibeachlovers]

As seen on Al Jazeera this morning, netanyahu begging for forgiveness for the hostages not being rescued.

He's lost his usual smirk, so he must be concerned that he may be removed as PM and that court case and hopefully prison is getting closer.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3nFXBgPvnI

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/9/2/israeli-war-on-gaza-live-israel-bombs-school-killing-11-palestinians

“I ask for your forgiveness for not bringing them back alive,” Netanyahu said during a televised news conference. “We were close, but we didn’t succeed. Hamas will pay a very heavy price for this.”

[coolcarer]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

As seen on Al Jazeera this morning, netanyahu begging for forgiveness for the hostages not being rescued.

He's lost his usual smirk, so he must be concerned that he may be removed as PM and that court case and hopefully prison is getting closer.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3nFXBgPvnI

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/9/2/israeli-war-on-gaza-live-israel-bombs-school-killing-11-palestinians

“I ask for your forgiveness for not bringing them back alive,” Netanyahu said during a televised news conference. “We were close, but we didn’t succeed. Hamas will pay a very heavy price for this.”

Nope, he’s definitely not “begging” for forgiveness that’s you making things up and why would he be smirking when talking about such a horrible event carried out by the terrorists?  You may want to view him speaking English, you would hear him relay how the hostages were shot in the back of the head.

 

A Hamas execution 

 

 

[billd766]

19 hours ago, stevenl said:

What is missing here is that the protests are against the present Israeli leadership.

From the BBC News website this morning.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn02pz4wnyro

 

An item from the link.

 

quote "But Israel's prime minister struck a defiant tone, insisting its troops must control Gaza's Philadelphi Corridor - a strategically important strip of land which is a sticking point in negotiations with Hamas".

[Bkk Brian]

21 minutes ago, billd766 said:

From the BBC News website this morning.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn02pz4wnyro

 

An item from the link.

 

quote "But Israel's prime minister struck a defiant tone, insisting its troops must control Gaza's Philadelphi Corridor - a strategically important strip of land which is a sticking point in negotiations with Hamas".

 

Its importance is because of Hamas the terrorists.

 

Hamas is demanding the Philadelphi Corridor for a reason - analysis

Hamas knows that an internal debate exists in Israel about holding on to the Philadelphi corridor. It exploits this and uses language that is designed to sow internal discord. For instance, it accuses Israel’s leadership of seeing the corridor as “more important than Israeli captives.” The fact is that it is Hamas that sees this area as more important. It is Hamas that took hostages. It is Hamas that used the border area to become stronger and launch a genocidal attack on Israel. It is Hamas that murdered the hostages.

In Israel, the debate is whether having military units on the corridor route is essential. Some think Israel can return to the area. Others think that monitoring can be done remotely. History shows that generally, this is not the case.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-817386

[thaibeachlovers]

15 hours ago, billd766 said:

From the BBC News website this morning.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn02pz4wnyro

 

An item from the link.

 

quote "But Israel's prime minister struck a defiant tone, insisting its troops must control Gaza's Philadelphi Corridor - a strategically important strip of land which is a sticking point in negotiations with Hamas".

I think some of us know what the real sticking point in the negotiations is and why.

[billd766]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I think some of us know what the real sticking point in the negotiations is and why.

I think that a lot of countries and their leaders also know what the sticking [pint is and who is causing it. It is the megalomaniac Netanyahu, and his far right war cabinet that is the problem.

 

There are thousands and thousands of Israeli protestors who were out on the streets of Israel over the last few days, protesting AGAINST Netanyahu and his abject failure to bring home the hostages.

 

There are hundreds and thousands of Israeli "settlers" stealing Palestinian land and properties for illegal settlements in Gaza. There are reportedly over 40,000 Palestinian men, women, children and babies murdered by the IDF and over 100,000 Palestinian men, women, children and babies injured by the IDF. Over half the population are intentionally made homeless by Israel and the IDF.

 

So in your opinion, tell us all who is the real sticking point in the negotiations is and why?

[Hanaguma]

...and where is Joe Biden in all of this? Americans are being held hostage. There can only be one possible answer- send in whatever Special Forces are needed to retrieve them, and eliminate every last member/supporter of Hamas.  But Joe probably doesnt even know how many hostages are still being held. 

[Hanaguma]

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

I think that a lot of countries and their leaders also know what the sticking [pint is and who is causing it. It is the megalomaniac Netanyahu, and his far right war cabinet that is the problem.

 

There are thousands and thousands of Israeli protestors who were out on the streets of Israel over the last few days, protesting AGAINST Netanyahu and his abject failure to bring home the hostages.

 

There are hundreds and thousands of Israeli "settlers" stealing Palestinian land and properties for illegal settlements in Gaza. There are reportedly over 40,000 Palestinian men, women, children and babies murdered by the IDF and over 100,000 Palestinian men, women, children and babies injured by the IDF. Over half the population are intentionally made homeless by Israel and the IDF.

 

So in your opinion, tell us all who is the real sticking point in the negotiations is and why?

There are no Israeli settlements in Gaza. The last Jew left nearly 20 years ago- removed forcibly by the IDF.  The Palestinians have had 20 years and billions of dollars given to them. They created nothing other than an Islamo-fascist terror state. Aid money was either stolen or used to buy weapons and build terror facilities.

 

So yes, the real sticking point is Hamas. 

[Patong2021]

14 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

...and where is Joe Biden in all of this? Americans are being held hostage. There can only be one possible answer- send in whatever Special Forces are needed to retrieve them, and eliminate every last member/supporter of Hamas.  But Joe probably doesnt even know how many hostages are still being held. 

 

How would US special forces be any more successful than the IDF who have a better knowledge of  Gaza?It won't work.

If one US soldier is killed, there would be all sorts of complaints about putting them in  harm's way for  a foreign nation. It didn't work in  Libya, Iraq or Afghanistan.  The US doesn't need more suicide  bombers or an uprising within its borders.  There are 4.5 million muslims in the USA. You can bet that at least 1 million of them would  go to protest and they would be joined by the violent  mobs who vandalized universities and attacked anyone who did not share their views.

 

The US must not get involved, especially with an election in 60 days.  The reality is that the captives are considered as good as dead, and have been for several months. 

Hamas are violent savages and there cannot be a ceasefire since Hamas doesn't want one.  The IDF can start shooting Hamas dead on sight since they are not declaring as a combat force and instead still present in "civilian" disguise.  80% of the tunnel network connecting to Egypt has been destroyed. 20% more to go. Once that occurs, the pressure will really be on Hamas. In the meantime, the Egyptians have been shown to be lying duplicitous enablers for allowing Hamas to maintain its tunnel network into Egypt.

[stevenl]

5 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

...and where is Joe Biden in all of this? Americans are being held hostage. There can only be one possible answer- send in whatever Special Forces are needed to retrieve them, and eliminate every last member/supporter of Hamas.  But Joe probably doesnt even know how many hostages are still being held. 

So the USA should get involved 

Strongly disagree.

[Hanaguma]

3 minutes ago, stevenl said:

So the USA should get involved 

Strongly disagree.

When American citizens are being held hostage, yes.  Otherwise, it just encourages other terrorists to do the same. 

[Bkk Brian]

On 9/2/2024 at 6:38 AM, Social Media said:

The killings have fueled widespread anger and sorrow across Israel, leading to mass protests on Thursday.

 

JNS poll: Majority of Israelis back Netanyahu on Philadelphi, oppose protests

An overwhelming majority of Israelis support Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s negotiation positions regarding a hostage deal with Hamas and oppose anti-government demonstrations in Tel Aviv demanding an immediate deal at any price, according to a new, in-depth JNS poll.

Netanyahu’s positions are supported not only by coalition-party voters, but also by approximately one third of voters for opposition parties, the survey found.

https://www.jns.org/jns-poll-majority-of-israelis-back-netanyahus-positions-on-philadelphi-corridor-oppose-protests/

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Off topic baiting post removed @Jeff the Chef This topic is not about the Gazan deaths and their accuracy

[Bkk Brian]

On 9/4/2024 at 5:51 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

I think some of us know what the real sticking point in the negotiations is and why.

No you don't.

 

Hostage killings and new demands cast doubt in White House that Hamas wants a deal

One of the main questions raised during a meeting President Biden and Vice President Harris had with their national security team on Monday was whether there is a hostage-release and ceasefire in Gaza deal Hamas would ever agree to, U.S. officials said.

Why it matters: Biden and his top advisers were shocked after Hamas killed six hostages, among them U.S. citizen Hersh Goldberg-Polin, and have started to rethink the way forward in the negotiations over the deal.

At the same time, Hamas' new demand to increase the number of Palestinian prisoners released as part of the deal raised even more concerns and questions among U.S. negotiators about whether an agreement is possible, U.S. officials said.
"We still think the deal is the only way to save the lives of the hostages and stop the war. But the executions not only increased our sense of urgency but also called into question Hamas' willingness to do a deal of any kind," a U.S. official said.

https://www.axios.com/2024/09/05/gaza-israel-us-hostages-ceasefire-deal-prisoners

[thaibeachlovers]

On 9/4/2024 at 3:58 PM, billd766 said:

So in your opinion, tell us all who is the real sticking point in the negotiations is and why?

Netanyahu of course. Did you think I support him?

[billd766]

27 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Netanyahu of course. Did you think I support him?

You asked.

 

My answer is, IMO you do support him.

[thaibeachlovers]

36 minutes ago, billd766 said:

You asked.

 

My answer is, IMO you do support him.

I'm boggled. I don't know where you got that idea and apparently never read any of my posts on the subject.

Carry on.

[Bkk Brian]

Some more details coming out on the last few days/hours before the executions of the 6 hostages.

 

Ch12 reveals the IDF has briefed the families of the 6 executed hostages, including on the horrific inhumane conditions they were kept in and the incredible bravery they showed in their final moments.

 

According to the reports:

* Several of the six are assessed to have defended themselves and struggled with those who shot them.

* Channel 12 cites “forensic” findings that show Hersh, Ori, Alex and Almog defended Eden and Carmel.

* The hostages were held in a small and very narrow tunnel, barely two-people wide and too low for them to stand fully upright. Only two hostages could lie down at the same time on the width of the tunnel.

* There were no air vents, and the hostages had difficulty breathing.

* There were no toilets or showers in the tunnel. The hostages washed with water from the bottles they also drank from.

* The hostages were starved by Hamas. Eden Yerushalmi for example weighed a mere 36 kilos (79 lb).

* The hostages were executed two to three days before the IDF discovered them. According to PM Netanyahu, the hostages were murdered in cold blood, with bullet to the back of the head.

* Some personal items, including journals, were also discovered, which the IDF presented to the families.

 

 

Slain hostages struggled with their killers in final moments, IDF probe said to find
Several of the six Israeli hostages who were executed by their Hamas captors in Gaza some 10 days ago had attempted to fight off their killers, their families have reportedly been told by the Israel Defense Forces.

IDF Spokesman Daniel Hagari has briefed some of the families of the six — Hersh Goldberg-Polin, Ori Danino, Eden Yerushalmi, Almog Sarusi, Alexander Lobanov and Carmel Gat — on the difficult conditions in which they had been held and on their courage in their final moments, according to Channel 12 and Channel 13.

Hagari, who reportedly met with the families over the past day or so, shared what Channel 12 news described as the initial findings of the army’s investigation into the incident, detailing the harsh conditions in which the six were held, and showing the families evidence from inside the tunnel where they were killed.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/slain-hostages-struggled-with-their-killers-in-final-moments-idf-probe-said-to-find/

[Bkk Brian]

It was hell on earth for the murdered 6 hostages. There were no rooms in this tunnel, hardly wide enough for 2 people to pass and not tall enough to stand.

 

This very tunnel, 20 meters underground, is where 6 Israeli civilians that were held hostage by Hamas for 11 months, were executed by terrorists.

 

Watch the video to see inside and the horrific conditions.

 

Edited Wednesday at 03:52 AM by Bkk Brian