Social Media Posted September 9, 2024 Posted September 9, 2024 As the September 30 deadline to avert a government shutdown looms, Congress is facing significant internal conflicts, particularly among Republicans, which could lead to a prolonged funding battle. Both parties are firmly entrenched in their positions, with some Republicans even expressing doubts about their own party's strategy as government funding is set to expire in less than a month. Lawmakers returned to Washington with the urgent task of preventing a shutdown. While the upcoming elections might reduce the likelihood of a funding lapse, the debate is expected to be contentious. House Republicans, led by Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.), unveiled a plan that ties a six-month stopgap funding measure, also known as a continuing resolution (CR), to legislation that demands stricter proof-of-citizenship requirements to register to vote. "Today, House Republicans are taking a critically important step to keep the federal government funded and to secure our federal election process," Johnson declared, emphasizing the necessity of ensuring that "only American citizens can decide American elections." In recent months, conservatives have increasingly called for a stopgap that extends beyond December, anticipating the potential return of former President Trump to the Oval Office in January. Their goal is to avoid a massive end-of-year omnibus spending bill. Despite the urgency, Johnson's plan has already faced skepticism within his own party. Some Republicans caution against assuming the outcome of the November elections, with concerns about burdening a newly elected Congress with a complex appropriations process. One House Republican voiced concerns about the challenges for newly elected members who may lack understanding of the appropriations process, especially with the debt limit also looming in January. Additionally, there are doubts about the wisdom of attaching the Safeguard American Voter Eligibility (SAVE) Act to the CR, given the strong likelihood that the Democratic-controlled Senate will reject it. Rep. Matt Rosendale (R-Mont.) criticized Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), accusing him of wanting "illegals to vote in American elections." Rosendale argued that Republicans should focus on passing all 12 appropriations bills, rather than pursuing a strategy that is likely to fail. Despite the internal divisions, some Republicans, like Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas), who is the lead sponsor of the SAVE Act, are pushing for the GOP to unite and move forward. Roy emphasized the need for the party to strategize effectively over the next two months, stating, "But we got to figure out what we’re going to do about government funding, and we got to figure out what we’re going to do about picking a fight that differentiates us from Democrats." Democrats have strongly opposed the GOP’s plan, with Shalanda Young, director of the White House’s Office of Management and Budget, accusing Congressional Republicans of wasting time. Young emphasized that there is a clear, bipartisan path to responsibly fund the government, warning that the proposed six-month CR ignores pressing needs that could have severe consequences for defense, veterans, and communities. The funding battle also coincides with concerns from both parties over a $3 billion budget shortfall facing the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA). This shortfall, largely attributed to the PACT Act, a landmark law passed in 2022 that expanded VA health care, could disrupt benefit payments for millions of veterans and survivors in October if Congress does not act by September 20. Sen. John Boozman (R-Ark.), the top Republican on the subcommittee responsible for VA funding, acknowledged the urgency of addressing the shortfall, expressing a desire to ensure veterans do not miss critical payments. Credit: The Hill 2024-09-10 Get the ASEAN NOW daily NEWSLETTER - Click HERE to subscribe 1
Popular Post Tug Posted September 9, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 9, 2024 In my opinion I think what trump tells them to do will determine what happens.Thats not because a majority of the republican congress want to or what they think the best way forward is……it’s out of fear of their own electorate one mean tweet from trump and they are toast.they know and fear it.Its a truly sad position to be in and if trump loses a good many will breath a sigh of relief. 4 1 1 2
Popular Post thesetat2013 Posted September 9, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 9, 2024 1 hour ago, Tug said: In my opinion I think what trump tells them to do will determine what happens.Thats not because a majority of the republican congress want to or what they think the best way forward is……it’s out of fear of their own electorate one mean tweet from trump and they are toast.they know and fear it.Its a truly sad position to be in and if trump loses a good many will breath a sigh of relief. What an unthought about and ridiculous statement to make. With nothing to show as proof. Attach links to this please. Otherwise it is a baseless Anti-Trump rhetoric created in your own mind. 2 1 3
Popular Post animalmagic Posted September 9, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 9, 2024 You ask a poster expressing his opinion to provide proof and links?! 3 2
Popular Post Stargeezr Posted September 9, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 9, 2024 Trump is a dinosaur, why would anyone vote a dinosaur into power. 4 1
Popular Post Tug Posted September 9, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 9, 2024 14 minutes ago, thesetat2013 said: What an unthought about and ridiculous statement to make. With nothing to show as proof. Attach links to this please. Otherwise it is a baseless Anti-Trump rhetoric created in your own mind. It’s plane as day any republican who crosses trump gets censored and the base is turned lose to vote them out,kinzenger is one example Cheney is another as you well know.talk about unthought out…. 4 2 1
Popular Post bunnydrops Posted September 10, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 10, 2024 1 hour ago, thesetat2013 said: What an unthought about and ridiculous statement to make. With nothing to show as proof. Attach links to this please. Otherwise it is a baseless Anti-Trump rhetoric created in your own mind. Nothing wrong with showing proof. But the GOP has not shown there is a problem to fix. Mike Johnson, the House speaker, said during a press conference on the bill that “we all know – intuitively – that a lot of illegals are voting in federal elections. But it’s not been something that is easily provable.” "intuitively"? Isn't that something you would want to show proof as you stated above? 3 2
JCauto Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 1 hour ago, animalmagic said: You ask a poster expressing his opinion to provide proof and links?! LOL! Just what I was thinking. For the record, it was longer than his usual posts and contained less spelling errors. So there's some validity to questioning whether it was Tug himself who wrote it. Maybe he dictated the first sentence to his grandchild or something? It's like debating with children. They observe that when they make unsubstantiated factual claims we often demand links for evidence, so think that's what you do whenever you hear something you don't agree with. 1
RichardColeman Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 No funding should be given to ANY party that does not have a plan to reduce the insane US debt , which currently stands at : US debt : $35,360,000,000,000 US debt per person - $104,000 US debt per tax paying citizen : $270,000 2 1
thesetat2013 Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 42 minutes ago, RichardColeman said: No funding should be given to ANY party that does not have a plan to reduce the insane US debt , which currently stands at : US debt : $35,360,000,000,000 US debt per person - $104,000 US debt per tax paying citizen : $270,000 Haha make that Thai baht and it is more here. hmm... Government debt and household debt are rising everywhere. It cost a lot to live now. More than the average person makes in their lifetime.
Tug Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 1 hour ago, JCauto said: LOL! Just what I was thinking. For the record, it was longer than his usual posts and contained less spelling errors. So there's some validity to questioning whether it was Tug himself who wrote it. Maybe he dictated the first sentence to his grandchild or something? It's like debating with children. They observe that when they make unsubstantiated factual claims we often demand links for evidence, so think that's what you do whenever you hear something you don't agree with. I provided 2 examples for you and I’m sorry for my lousy grammar and spelling I had a rough start in life so what it’s all good now 1
koolkarl Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 More smoke and mirrors. They have the printing press and not a sole complains about it's continuous use. Go back on the gold standard to control these reckless, irresponsible politicians, all of them. 1
Chomper Higgot Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 1 hour ago, RichardColeman said: No funding should be given to ANY party that does not have a plan to reduce the insane US debt , which currently stands at : US debt : $35,360,000,000,000 US debt per person - $104,000 US debt per tax paying citizen : $270,000 Don’t confuse plan with outcome. Easily made simplistic plans to solve complex problems never produce the outcome they promise. 1 1
herfiehandbag Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 4 hours ago, Tug said: In my opinion I think what trump tells them to do will determine what happens.Thats not because a majority of the republican congress want to or what they think the best way forward is……it’s out of fear of their own electorate one mean tweet from trump and they are toast.they know and fear it.Its a truly sad position to be in and if trump loses a good many will breath a sigh of relief. I certainly think that was the case until the candidates "down ballot" were decided - Trump certainly wielded the tremendous influence you describe over the various primary and selection processes. Now perhaps not, if he disowns Republican candidates then that may rather open the field to their Democrat rivals. Mind you, I am not sure that his thought process would go that far! 1
herfiehandbag Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 2 hours ago, Stargeezr said: Trump is a dinosaur, why would anyone vote a dinosaur into power. Well it seems a large contingent of the American electorate are somewhat Jurassic in their approach to politics! 1
Chomper Higgot Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 2 minutes ago, koolkarl said: More smoke and mirrors. They have the printing press and not a sole complains about its continuous use. Go back on the gold standard to control these reckless, irresponsible politicians, all of them. Start with the big numbers. Trillions piling up in the accounts of the hyper wealthy at cost to the nation. The prosperity of all Americans was at its highest in the decades before neoliberalism funneled the nation’s wealth into the hands of the few. 1
JCauto Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 8 minutes ago, Tug said: I provided 2 examples for you and I’m sorry for my lousy grammar and spelling I had a rough start in life so what it’s all good now Sorry Tug, my post wasn't clear. I was poking fun at Thesestat2013 for demanding links proving that you thought what you thought as if you could somehow substantiate your own opinion with outside evidence... 1
john donson Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 same as any country, too many people pushing pencils + useless extreme military + fraud and corruption 1 1
Wrwest Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 3 hours ago, thesetat2013 said: What an unthought about and ridiculous statement to make. With nothing to show as proof. Attach links to this please. Otherwise it is a baseless Anti-Trump rhetoric created in your own mind. How about history? He certainly did exactly that with the bipartisan immigration bill. Wanted to use immigration as a campaign issue. Now? Wants to use voting as an issue when we had the documented safest, most secure election ever in 2020. Confirmed by the numerous court cases that all failed to present evidence of voting fraud. Using a non-issue to threaten another gov't shutdown. 1
Tug Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 52 minutes ago, JCauto said: Sorry Tug, my post wasn't clear. I was poking fun at Thesestat2013 for demanding links proving that you thought what you thought as if you could somehow substantiate your own opinion with outside evidence... No worry’s I have a thick Hyde anyway lol 😝 1
Wrwest Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 3 hours ago, animalmagic said: You ask a poster expressing his opinion to provide proof and links?! There do exist "hints" as to potential foreign or domestic enemy postings.
animalmagic Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 1 hour ago, Wrwest said: There do exist "hints" as to potential foreign or domestic enemy postings. The post I referred to has no hints as to potential foreign or domestic postings. From Tug - 'In my opinion I think what trump tells them to do will determine what happens.Thats not because a majority of the republican congress want to or what they think the best way forward is……it’s out of fear of their own electorate one mean tweet from trump and they are toast.they know and fear it.Its a truly sad position to be in and if trump loses a good many will breath a sigh of relief.'
riclag Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 10 hours ago, Social Media said: Lawmakers returned to Washington with the urgent task of preventing a shutdown. While the upcoming elections might reduce the likelihood of a funding lapse, the debate is expected to be contentious. House Republicans, led by Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.), unveiled a plan that ties a six-month stopgap funding measure, also known as a continuing resolution (CR), to legislation that demands stricter proof-of-citizenship requirements to register to vote. "Today, House Republicans are taking a critically important step to keep the federal government funded and to secure our federal election process," Johnson declared, emphasizing the necessity of ensuring that "only American citizens can decide American elections." When asked about a fall back plan by a reporter,Mike responded there is no fall back plan!Its a righteous cause, A CR that ties spending & proof of citizenship to register to vote. This cause puts pressure on dems to solidify election integrity. Imop He says “illegal Immigrants voting could throw the Election “ 2
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted September 10, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 10, 2024 2 hours ago, riclag said: He says “illegal Immigrants voting could throw the Election “ But produces zero evidence to back his baseless claim. 2 2
JCauto Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: But produces zero evidence to back his baseless claim. Thereby piling up the meat on the "nothing-burger" of evidence of pretty much anything they claim about the elections and voting. Imagine if instead they focused on creating policy that was popular amongst the populace? But of course, they never would, their "Big Tent" has a minimum wealth requirement of 9 zeros. 1
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