Kamala Harris Expresses Openness to Exploring Reparations for Slavery

[fondue zoo]

2 hours ago, stoner said:

 

I am a Scottish highlander. So yes guilty. 

 

 

 

 

couldn't help myself

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 19 by fondue zoo

[riclag]

2 hours ago, theblether said:

 

What if I'm white but descended from American slaves? 

 

It's just utter stupidity and it will occupy the thoughts of the low-wits forever. 

 

Anyway, the slaves are long dead - if they spoke about some form of compensation for those who suffered from Jim Crow who are STILL ALIVE - that would be more credible. 

 

The last thing they should do is issue money. Maybe free healthcare or free education for their living descendants would be a fair offer. 

 

Hand out cheques worth a mere $20,000 each and it will be carnage. 

Its marxist propaganda , its always about the oppressed and the so called 

oppressor's with these far leftest!

 

“For Marxists, the fight against oppression goes hand-in-hand with the class struggle”.

 

https://communist.red/identity-and-oppression/

 

My opinion:We the people got it right when others recognized the party that fought for freedom (republicans) realized that the dem party ( fought to enslave) got it wrong during and “ around “ the time of the civil war!

 

 

 

Edited September 19 by riclag

[Irish star]

6 hours ago, proton said:

The descendants of the  Africans who captured them and then sold them into slavery should be the first to pay up. Another of the insane woke ideas she supports. 

England paid a huge part 

[Jingthing]

21 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

I do take the attitude that reparations for slavery were paid in the blood of Union soldiers. 

 

It's over. Unless you are a low-wit who will no doubt still be arguing about reparations two hundred years from now. 

Never mind Jim Crow laws and mortgage redlining going well into quite recent history.

[Irish star]

6 minutes ago, riclag said:

Its marxist propaganda , its always about the oppressed and the so called 

oppressor's with these far leftest!

 

“For Marxists, the fight against oppression goes hand-in-hand with the class struggle”.

 

https://communist.red/identity-and-oppression/

 

My opinion:We the people got it right when others recognized the party that fought for freedom (republicans) realized that the dem party ( fought to enslave) got it wrong during and “ around “ the time of the civil war!

 

Do you have original thought just repeat Trump 

Edited September 19 by Irish star

[theblether]

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Never mind Jim Crow laws and mortgage redlining going well into quite recent history.

 

I posted this earlier in the thread. 

 

"Anyway, the slaves are long dead - if they spoke about some form of compensation for those who suffered from Jim Crow who are STILL ALIVE - that would be more credible. 

 

The last thing they should do is issue money. Maybe free healthcare or free education for their living descendants would be a fair offer."

 

Let6 me clarify what I mean....................

 

Most people who suffered the true depravations of Jim Crow are now elderly. Providing them will free healthcare ( for example ) would be a fair thing to do.

 

You could extend Jim Crow reparations to their grandkids, great grandkids etc  as an argument could be put forward re "generational wealth accumulation" being denied to those punished by Jim Crow. But there has to be a limit. 

[Irish star]

5 hours ago, stoner said:

 

woah big fella. maybe for once you can leave trump out of it. octd much.

would you like to address the many other points the poster you replied to made. or you just want to leave those out and go on your frothy rant.

 

what is your great insight into those other parts ?

Take a smoke break , way over your head 

[stoner]

14 minutes ago, Irish star said:

Take a smoke break , way over your head 

 

You're angry a lot. Must be difficult.

[riclag]

1 minute ago, theblether said:

 

I posted this earlier in the thread. 

 

"Anyway, the slaves are long dead - if they spoke about some form of compensation for those who suffered from Jim Crow who are STILL ALIVE - that would be more credible. 

 

The last thing they should do is issue money. Maybe free healthcare or free education for their living descendants would be a fair offer."

 

Let6 me clarify what I mean....................

 

Most people who suffered the true depravations of Jim Crow are now elderly. Providing them will free healthcare ( for example ) would be a fair thing to do.

 

You could extend Jim Crow reparations to their grandkids, great grandkids etc  as an argument could be put forward re "generational wealth accumulation" being denied to those punished by Jim Crow. But there has to be a limit. 

My country has passed laws to help minorities .

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/oasam/civil-rights-center/statutes/civil-rights-act-of-1964

 

Affirmative action was another example of helping minorities .

 

“While the public rejects the use of preferential treatment to improve the position of minorities, in the past it has expressed broad support for affirmative action programs aimed at helping blacks and women gain access to better jobs and education”.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2009/06/02/public-backs-affirmative-action-but-not-minority-preferences/

 

They have more representation in cities, states and  local government than  ever before. Even on law enforcement!

 

Its never enough with our tax revenue with the left!

 

 

[Hummin]

16 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

How about reparations for the Native Americans for having all their land stolen, genocide, ethnic cleansing and breach of treaties?

Perhaps they don't count because they don't have a significant population to vote for Harris. Do they even have a vote?

What about all the good women who thought they getting good work for good money, who ended up in prostitution for dirty cowboys and miners. They are very rarely mentioned in the history. 

 

It is a big mistake going back in the history, a society should always close chapters and look for future making thing better.

[Luuk Chaai]

16 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Not a good idea, you cannot take 14% of a nation and say we're going to give you a fortune because our ancestors hundreds of years ago made these egregious errors. Society was different, culture was different, and slavery has been the norm for millennium. And where you going to stop, are you going to extend that to everyone from South America with African blood? Where you going to draw the line?

 

Her advisors need to sit her down, give her a very stern talking to, perhaps slap her up the side of the head, and set her off on the straight and narrow path. 

 

Just accept it, get on with it make the most of your life and stop the incessant victimization. 

 the good ole' boyz playing the race / victim card again

[Irish star]

9 hours ago, stoner said:

 

You're angry a lot. Must be difficult.

You get so butt hurt 5555 man up 

[EVENKEEL]

Shouldn't repatriation be part of the proposal.

[JimGant]

1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said:

Shouldn't repatriation be part of the proposal.

Thomas Jefferson tried that.

[johnnybangkok]

15 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Good idea in theory. But the truth is that a majority of millionaires and billionaires did NOT inherit their wealth. They aren't descendants of Scrooge McDuck swimming in gold coins.   

 

It sounds to me you are discussing some kind of confiscatory inheritance tax. Am I right?

Although this may have been the truth some years ago, it's not any more.

More Billionaire Wealth Achieved Through Inheritance, Overtaking Entrepreneurship (investopedia.com)

[Trippy]

18 hours ago, stoner said:

 

Yes get intoxicated that's sure to help you understand.

You had a better sense of humor in Thailand.

Is Canada stressing you out?

[KhunLA]

On 9/19/2024 at 4:21 AM, Tug said:

The header is a bit misleading she’s not openly advocating for reparations 

She never open advocates for anything ... but 'she's always open and would welcome that discussion'  ...  her usual 'dodge the question' tactic.

 

She so transparently empty of any policy, it's unbelievable.

[Jingthing]

48 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

She never open advocates for anything ... but 'she's always open and would welcome that discussion'  ...  her usual 'dodge the question' tactic.

 

She so transparently empty of any policy, it's unbelievable.

Of course she does. Abortion access for example.

[Cameroni]

8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Of course she does. Abortion access for example.

 

Her abortion policy is just empty words. How can she implement an abotion law without the Democrats owning both Senate and Congress? She can't.

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

Her abortion policy is just empty words. How can she implement an abotion law without the Democrats owning both Senate and Congress? She can't.

That's her position. You're talking about process. She can appoint judges.

[Cameroni]

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

That's her position. You're talking about process. She can appoint judges.

 

But a position, a policy, has to be workable. It has to have a chance of success at least.

 

How can she promise she'll pass an abortion law when the circumstances clearly tell everyone she can't do it?

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

But a position, a policy, has to be workable. It has to have a chance of success at least.

 

How can she promise she'll pass an abortion law when the circumstances clearly tell everyone she can't do it?

Stop lying.

She has never promised such a bill.will reach her desk.

It's not her fault that the fascists killed Roe.

She'll clearly do what she can.

 

[KhunLA]

26 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Her abortion policy is just empty words. How can she implement an abotion law without the Democrats owning both Senate and Congress? She can't.

Exactly, and abortion, along with other social issues, fall on 'state' legislature to pass laws.  Her opinion on abortion means nothing.

[Cameroni]

18 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Stop lying.

She has never promised such a bill.will reach her desk.

It's not her fault that the fascists killed Roe.

She'll clearly do what she can.

 

 

She said it in the debate!

 

" And I pledge to you when Congress passes a bill to put back in place the protections of Roe v. Wade as president of the United States, I will proudly sign it into law. "

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/harris-trump-presidential-debate-transcript/story?id=113560542

[NativeBob]

On 9/19/2024 at 1:34 AM, mdr224 said:

Where will they get the money from for this? More inflation?

Biden didn't (ever) mentioned his plans to reduce that 35T debt

they don't care anymore

just keep printing

 

PS: last time it looked "close to serious" was Obamba vs. Boeher speech I wathed on TV. And that was pathetic. 

[Jingthing]

26 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

She said it in the debate!

 

" And I pledge to you when Congress passes a bill to put back in place the protections of Roe v. Wade as president of the United States, I will proudly sign it into law. "

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/harris-trump-presidential-debate-transcript/story?id=113560542

Obviously she would sign  it. If you read that that she is saying she has the power to control the votes in congress to get such a bill you're being disingenuous.

As president she will definitely have some powers on this issue at the direct executive level. Elect Trump and you make a horrible situation which he created.even worse.

[thaibeachlovers]

6 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Her abortion policy is just empty words. How can she implement an abotion law without the Democrats owning both Senate and Congress? She can't.

IMO she is an empty vessel with nothing to offer. IMO she is only getting support because she is neither Biden nor Trump.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

9 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

But a position, a policy, has to be workable. It has to have a chance of success at least.

 

How can she promise she'll pass an abortion law when the circumstances clearly tell everyone she can't do it?

What circumstances?

 

The election isn’t until November.

[Chomper Higgot]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO she is an empty vessel with nothing to offer. IMO she is only getting support because she is neither Biden nor Trump.

 

 

She does at least have a vote and a real say in the matter.

[Wrwest]

On 9/19/2024 at 5:28 PM, John Drake said:

 

That reads like Kamala Harris said it.

Ha! Possibly since we are both educated and recognize we live in a world of complexity.