Trump and Vance continue to lie about and demonise Haitians in Springfield

[simple1]

“How about in Springfield, Ohio, they had 32,000 – this is a little beautiful town, no crime, no problem – 32,000 illegal immigrants come into the town,” Trump said. “So they almost double their population in a period of a few weeks. Can you believe it? And you know what? They’ve got to get much tougher. I’m going to go there in the next two weeks. I’m going to Springfield.”

 

The city of Springfield states on its website that “YES, Haitian immigrants are here legally, under the Immigration Parole Program. Once here, immigrants are then eligible to apply for Temporary Protected Status (TPS). Haiti is designated by the Secretary of Homeland Security for TPS. Current TPS is granted through February 3, 2026.” NB: To gain entry via the Immigration Parole Program the applicant must be sponsored

 

First Trump said Haitian migrants in Ohio were ‘eating the pets’. Now he says they’re ‘destroying America’ (msn.com)

 

Program that allows 30,000 migrants from 4 countries into the US each month upheld by judge | AP News

[xylophone]

Trump doing what Trump does best – – lying through his ever open and vindictive mouth. Sad and pathetic man.

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J.D. Vance actually confessed that he was lying.

[DougieMax]

1 hour ago, xylophone said:

Trump doing what Trump does best – – lying through his ever open and vindictive mouth. Sad and pathetic man.

Dang tootin. It's a good thing we have such dedicated truth tellers in government, media and academia. The would never lie.

[DougieMax]

57 minutes ago, placeholder said:

J.D. Vance actually confessed that he was lying.

And you no doubt have a link to that confession, right?

[simple1]

23 minutes ago, DougieMax said:

And you no doubt have a link to that confession, right?

You no doubt already know, numerous sources e.g....

 

https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/watch/jd-vance-now-admits-to-lying-about-haitian-immigrants-eating-pets-on-purpose-219492933816

 

https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/watch/jd-vance-now-admits-to-lying-about-haitian-immigrants-eating-pets-on-purpose-219492933816

[DougieMax]

2 minutes ago, simple1 said:

You no doubt already know, numerous sources e.g....

 

https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/watch/jd-vance-now-admits-to-lying-about-haitian-immigrants-eating-pets-on-purpose-219492933816

 

https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/watch/jd-vance-now-admits-to-lying-about-haitian-immigrants-eating-pets-on-purpose-219492933816

MSNBC? You must be joking. They are not a reliable source for anything. Go back and find a real source.

[johnnybangkok]

3 minutes ago, DougieMax said:

MSNBC? You must be joking. They are not a reliable source for anything. Go back and find a real source.

It's a video. The words are coming out of his own mouth. Geez.

[johng]

20 minutes ago, DougieMax said:

https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/watch/jd-vance-now-admits-to-lying-about-haitian-immigrants-eating-pets-on-purpose-219492933816

 

Eating pets on purpose ??  perhaps they eat them accidentally ?

I must admit that I think I might have accidentality  eaten cats,dogs probably some rat and cockroach too 🤢

[simple1]

23 minutes ago, DougieMax said:

MSNBC? You must be joking. They are not a reliable source for anything. Go back and find a real source.

Usual nonsense from MAGA world, it's why it's pointless to reply to MAGA questions.

[Screaming]

I have been to the Dominican Republic right next door to Haiti. I believe that these people will eat anything to stay alive. So it is not that unusual to eat dogs when they come to the U.S. 

[MalcolmB]

10 minutes ago, Screaming said:

I have been to the Dominican Republic right next door to Haiti. I believe that these people will eat anything to stay alive. So it is not that unusual to eat dogs when they come to the U.S. 

I took out a beautiful Haitian woman once. It was just a casual date and we went past a popular hotdog stand.

 

So I asked her had she ever tried hot dogs before. She said no but she was happy to give one a try.

 

When we got to the front of the line she saw the hot dogs and started looking a bit concerned.
 

She then said “Sorry Malcolm, in my town we don’t eat that part of the dog”

[simple1]

15 minutes ago, Screaming said:

I have been to the Dominican Republic right next door to Haiti. I believe that these people will eat anything to stay alive. So it is not that unusual to eat dogs when they come to the U.S. 

Why would legal migrants (Springfield) need to eat dog /cats, are they treated so poorly they are starving? In any case Vance has admitted he was lying about this matter to gain attention - IMO an act of complete stupidity demonising people for political gain, same goes for trump - both unfit to represent the Office of President and VP of USA; perhaps Dominican Republic is suitable.

[Marcous]

Apparently the rumour was started by a neo nazi group called 'Blood Tribe'

 

Vance saw it as his duty to 'create' this story to serve his community which is now receiving bomb threats.

 

Nice one Vance 👍

 

 

[DougieMax]

1 hour ago, johnnybangkok said:

It's a video. The words are coming out of his own mouth. Geez.

I treat MSNBC and CNN like feces: It's just not something I'm interested to go near. But by all means, enjoy your meal.

[candide]

4 minutes ago, Marcous said:

Apparently the rumour was started by a neo nazi group called 'Blood Tribe'

 

Vance saw it as his duty to 'create' this story to serve his community which is now receiving bomb threats.

 

Nice one Vance 👍

 

 

I doubt that black voters will appreciate this story.

They are shooting themselves in the foot again! 😉

[candide]

23 minutes ago, DougieMax said:

Again, pure language with nothing to support it. Strange, when your side posts rumors and outright garbage, it stays up, no challenges from the mods. It's just not believable.

Are you trolling again?

There's a whole thread about it with plenty of sources.

And you posted in this thread! 😀

 

 

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, DougieMax said:

Dang tootin. It's a good thing we have such dedicated truth tellers in government, media and academia. The would never lie.

JD Vance admitted that he was lying.

 

You don't believe him?

[Danderman123]

3 hours ago, DougieMax said:

 

Neo-Nazi Group Led by 2 Ex-Marines Pushed and Cheered Haitian Pet-Eating Claims Gripping Ohio City

 

This is a well documented story, you don't seem to have a firm grip on reality.

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[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, Screaming said:

I have been to the Dominican Republic right next door to Haiti. I believe that these people will eat anything to stay alive. So it is not that unusual to eat dogs when they come to the U.S. 

Are you okay?

 

Maybe you should lie down for a while.

[Danderman123]

3 hours ago, DougieMax said:

And you no doubt have a link to that confession, right?

The problem is that actual reality is irrelevant to you.

 

By now, you have ignored lots of data, because it gives you cognitive dissonance. Note that ignoring reality is a hallmark of Alzheimer's or insanity.

 

You really don't want people here to think you are crazy.

 

To sum up:

 

The dog eating story is fake.

 

The story was spread by a neo-Nazi group.

 

JD Vance admitted the story was fake.

 

Do you disagree?

Edited September 19 by Danderman123

[xylophone]

3 hours ago, DougieMax said:

Dang tootin. It's a good thing we have such dedicated truth tellers in government, media and academia. The would never lie.

Yee haw, break out the moonshine Marylou because we've got another one here – – one of the people who are trumps "favourite people" and no doubt soon we will be hearing nonsense about, "Deep State", "big Pharma" and that Trump never lies – yeah right!

 

Time for you to go back down the rabbit hole and whilst you are there, say hello to the dormouse and the Mad Hatter and don't drink too much more Kool-Aid!
 

[Danderman123]

3 hours ago, DougieMax said:

Dang tootin. It's a good thing we have such dedicated truth tellers in government, media and academia. The would never lie.

"They're eating the dogs.

 

They're eating the cats."

 

You seem to be a sucker for Trump's lies.

[Danderman123]

What's the point of Trump's lies lies about Haitians eating dogs?

 

"Vote for Trump and he will stop Haitians from eating dogs"?

 

Is that the message?

[Amethyst]

Several off-topic posts commenting on a fellow forum member have been removed. Please make your posted comments on the topic itself.

 

[Danderman123]

Hey, Trumpers!

 

Please post one of your conspiracy theories that is now considered to be true.

 

Just one.

[Cameroni]

7 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Hey, Trumpers!

 

Please post one of your conspiracy theories that is now considered to be true.

 

Just one.

Joe Biden is really a demented senile puppet but all the Democratic establishment are hiding this fact from the public.

 

Oh. My. God. It was true!!!!

[Danderman123]

32 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Joe Biden is really a demented senile puppet but all the Democratic establishment are hiding this fact from the public.

 

Oh. My. God. It was true!!!!

Joe Biden has good days and bad days. Most of the time, he's okay, as evidenced by his public appearances.

 

Trump's public appearances indicate he is getting senile.

[johnnybangkok]

20 hours ago, DougieMax said:

I treat MSNBC and CNN like feces: It's just not something I'm interested to go near. But by all means, enjoy your meal.

One last time for the hard of comprehension- it’s a video. He’s actually saying the words. I’m sure you can view it on YouTube if those media aren’t in your echo chamber. 

[xylophone]

21 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

One last time for the hard of comprehension- it’s a video. He’s actually saying the words. I’m sure you can view it on YouTube if those media aren’t in your echo chamber. 

Ah Johnny, don't forget who you are dealing with on the forum, because the "diehard trumpies" don't want to know/see/recognise anything which is contrary to their cult belief, so they refuse to believe it even when the words come out of their cult leader's mouth – – it is called cognitive dissonance, as if you didn't already know, and for others, this is an explanation of it: –

There are four theoretic paradigms of cognitive dissonance, the mental stress people experienced when exposed to information that is inconsistent with their beliefs, ideals or values: Belief Disconfirmation, Induced Compliance, Free Choice, and Effort Justification, which respectively explain what happens after a person acts inconsistently, relative to their intellectual perspectives; what happens after a person makes decisions and what are the effects upon a person who has expended much effort to achieve a goal. Common to each paradigm of cognitive-dissonance theory is the tenet: People invested in a given perspective shall—when confronted with contrary evidence—expend great effort to justify retaining the challenged perspective.

 

So you have absolutely no hope of being able to get these folk to see what is actually happening in the world, because they refuse to believe it, simple as that (however full marks for trying!).