Pattaya Cracks Down on Illegal Immigrants to Protect World-Class Tourist Image

[khaowong1]

Everytime I hear "world-class tourism image." and Pattaya in the same sentence, I have to laugh.  People come to Pattaya for one reason only, the night life.  

[James9999]

In Britain now you are not allowed to call them illegal immigrants. You have to call the irregular immigrants. Calling them illegal is probably a two year prison sentence. Or it would be but the prisons are full. Thailand can put the illegal, I mean irregular immigrants on the next plane to London. I am sure the British Government will give them asylum.

[jacko45k]

18 hours ago, ignore it said:

Ain't it ironic that some of the lefties on the forum are against illegal aliens in Pattaya, but seemingly not against those in the USA. 

If a person lives in Pattaya, I don't see why their focus should be on the USA in the slightest! And considering this is a Thailand forum, again the USA is irrelevant!

[newbee2022]

On 9/28/2024 at 1:00 AM, BayArea said:

 Thailand needs to enforce all the illegals in the country and not just Pattaya.

How many do you think are illegal here? I reckon a few dozen. And without them it would come the big change? Really?😂

[jacko45k]

7 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

How many do you think are illegal here? I reckon a few dozen. And without them it would come the big change? Really?😂

By 'here' do you mean Pattaya or all of Thailand? 

I suspect many more either way actually. The construction projects probably hold many. 

[Njoku]

23 hours ago, sungod said:

How does it differ exactly from any other large Thai town?

 

(apart from excellent schools, healthcare, shopping, restaurants, sporting activities that is)

ive seen more than half the country well id say most, Pattaya is a <deleted> hole compared to the rest, we are talking the main areas, but in Pattaya's case its everywhere, its a mess they dont fix anything in Pattaya just spending money on the beach a covered walk way at the pier and neglect everything else, ripping up roads constantly then bad refurbishment of the road, if you ride a motorbike around Pattaya you quickly find all the uneven roads including pot holes, im seeing new holes every few days. They ripped a stretch of Suk at a cross road, for what I dont know and replaced the asphalt  with concrete and did a <deleted> job marrying it to one and other, they have done it in a few places, for what purpose? well some its laying storm water pipes other places we left scratching our heads.

 

No its way better everywhere else in Thailand but here, throw in traffic management, I live under 5 ks from Central Festival one time 45min another time 1 hr to get home on leaving, yet im there in 10 to 20 min depending on traffic and thats driving.

 

I spent years staying in BKK normally 2 to 3 month stays every year, and I like BKK but when I decided to retire and live here decided to move to a sea side city, id only visited Pattaya maybe 4 or 5 times in 18 ys, it was down to Hua Hin or Pattaya, Hua Hin on long weekends the traffic is horrendous, once it took 7 hrs to drive from BKK to HH, then trying to get out of my Airbnb and go for dinner, that memory stayed with me.

 

Ive tripped a few times walking on there footpaths in and around Pattaya, one time I smashed my $400 smart watch in a fall, never in BKK or anywhere else, decided going for walks here was like trying to doge Hamas rockets so bought a treadmill, that day it took an hour to get home from Central when I got back to my condo called the agent that sold me my condo and listed it, so yeah im voting with my feet im moving to Sattahip next year...

[moe666]

On 9/27/2024 at 8:02 PM, Mark17AA said:

Can only laugh, world class Hub of up their own orifice.

It has to be world class with all the international whore mongers visiting

[sungod]

2 hours ago, Njoku said:

ive seen more than half the country well id say most, Pattaya is a <deleted> hole compared to the rest, we are talking the main areas, but in Pattaya's case its everywhere, its a mess they dont fix anything in Pattaya just spending money on the beach a covered walk way at the pier and neglect everything else, ripping up roads constantly then bad refurbishment of the road, if you ride a motorbike around Pattaya you quickly find all the uneven roads including pot holes, im seeing new holes every few days. They ripped a stretch of Suk at a cross road, for what I dont know and replaced the asphalt  with concrete and did a <deleted> job marrying it to one and other, they have done it in a few places, for what purpose? well some its laying storm water pipes other places we left scratching our heads.

 

No its way better everywhere else in Thailand but here, throw in traffic management, I live under 5 ks from Central Festival one time 45min another time 1 hr to get home on leaving, yet im there in 10 to 20 min depending on traffic and thats driving.

 

I spent years staying in BKK normally 2 to 3 month stays every year, and I like BKK but when I decided to retire and live here decided to move to a sea side city, id only visited Pattaya maybe 4 or 5 times in 18 ys, it was down to Hua Hin or Pattaya, Hua Hin on long weekends the traffic is horrendous, once it took 7 hrs to drive from BKK to HH, then trying to get out of my Airbnb and go for dinner, that memory stayed with me.

 

Ive tripped a few times walking on there footpaths in and around Pattaya, one time I smashed my $400 smart watch in a fall, never in BKK or anywhere else, decided going for walks here was like trying to doge Hamas rockets so bought a treadmill, that day it took an hour to get home from Central when I got back to my condo called the agent that sold me my condo and listed it, so yeah im voting with my feet im moving to Sattahip next year...

 

Pretty much everything you describe has happened to me all over Thailand. I worked in Bangkok, horrible place to get around.

[newbee2022]

3 hours ago, jacko45k said:

By 'here' do you mean Pattaya or all of Thailand? 

I suspect many more either way actually. The construction projects probably hold many. 

Actually I doubt you'll find a lot of illegal immigrants on building sites. Always I realized police checking the sites. 

Apart of these, if there are any, we're talking of overstayers? A handful I'd say.

[J Branche]

Can't compare Bangkok to Pattaya roads.  

 

Bangkok is the capital of course it would have better infrastructure, especially around the government, popular and wealthy areas.

 

Family business is road construction in USA.  The repairs either are not compacting the base support layers, they are not the right material, or material depth is not adequate.  They may need to check the drainage pipes at the joints.  Some areas seem to have settlement that could be caused by the base layer washing threw a pipe that is not joined correctly.

[Mason45]

4 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

How many do you think are illegal here? I reckon a few dozen. And without them it would come the big change? Really?😂

Literally thousands and they are protected by the hi so's because they do all their menial domestic jobs that Thais won't do. They also work harder and are paid less than Thais. My wife and my step daughter both have different cheap food shops, so that's where I get my info from.

[BigStar]

3 hours ago, Njoku said:

Pattaya is a <deleted> hole compared to the rest, we are talking the main areas, but in Pattaya's case its everywhere

 

Lovely place, really. Note:

 

1 hour ago, sungod said:

 

Pretty much everything you describe has happened to me all over Thailand. I worked in Bangkok, horrible place to get around.

 

3 hours ago, Njoku said:

Ive tripped a few times walking on there footpaths in and around Pattaya, one time I smashed my $400 smart watch in a fall, never in BKK or anywhere else,

 

Need to look where you're going. Stop lookin' at all them hot wimmen around. G-Shock watch. Trekking shoes to ensure successful pavement adaptation. Here: MERRELL Moab Speed 2 Men's Hiking Shoes. Jeans to prevent skint knees. Enough with the sandals and cargo shorts.

 

 

 

3 hours ago, Njoku said:

so bought a treadmill, that day it took an hour to get home from Central

 

Very convenient in the rainy season. 'Course, you could just use the one at the gym, or, better, a recumbent bike, and do the lifting you need.

 

Shop at Central during the week, not weekends or holidays. Or just take a Bolt and chill.

 

3 hours ago, Njoku said:

I got back to my condo called the agent that sold me my condo and listed it, so yeah im voting with my feet im moving to Sattahip next year...

 

Whoops. ANF Real Estate Experts could have told you that you can't sell that condo in a glutted market full of expats desperate to sell and heading for exits. There go your life savings.

 

Sattahip's too far from the paradise of Pattaya.🙂 Closer to U-Tapao and Sirikit, that's about it. Yeah, I think I'll just stay here by the beach in Pattaya. Cheers!

 

Edited September 29 by BigStar

[newbee2022]

5 hours ago, Mason45 said:

Literally thousands and they are protected by the hi so's because they do all their menial domestic jobs that Thais won't do. They also work harder and are paid less than Thais. My wife and my step daughter both have different cheap food shops, so that's where I get my info from.

I still have my doubts. To find an accomodation they need their ID, and when they have children, the school needs personal details. Opening a bank account or buying a bike/insurance will require an ID.

Almost impossible without registration. 

[steevjee]

On 9/27/2024 at 7:23 PM, webfact said:

Pattaya authorities detained several illegal immigrant beggars on Thursday to protect the city’s world-class tourism image.

At 6:00 PM on September 26th, Chonburi Immigration, Pattaya City officials, and the Chonburi Provincial Social Development and Human Security Office, jointly launched a crackdown on illegal immigrants begging in Pattaya. The authorities said the beggars were causing damage to the image of the city, which is a world-class tourist destination.

Officials inspected areas around Wat Chaimongkol on Pattaya Second Road and along Pattaya Beach, both of which are popular with tourists. They said immigrants had been using these locations to beg for money from tourists, causing annoyance.

 

Some even brought small children with them, which authorities suspected might not belong to them and could be victims of a human trafficking network. Others were elderly, and some appeared disabled to evoke sympathy from passersby. They would sit on the sidewalks, reaching out for money as tourists walked past them.

 

By Aim Tanakorn

 

Full story: THE PATTAYA NEWS 

-- 2024-09-27

 

 Totally cracks me up how Thai media think if they spin enough BS people will believe it, it's an insult to anyone's intelligence, wise up and start being honest.

[geisha]

14 hours ago, jacko45k said:

By 'here' do you mean Pattaya or all of Thailand? 

I suspect many more either way actually. The construction projects probably hold many. 

They’ve probably built all the condos we live in ! 

[Gobbler]

On 9/27/2024 at 7:23 PM, webfact said:

At 6:00 PM on September 26th, Chonburi Immigration, Pattaya City officials, and the Chonburi Provincial Social Development and Human Security Office, jointly launched a crackdown on illegal immigrants begging in Pattaya. The authorities said the beggars were causing damage to the image of the city, which is a world-class tourist destination.

Oh no! It will take them out of the running for Pattaya t,he compassionate city.  

 

"Hey Somchai, let's go find some people who haven't eaten and are begging for food, and we can have some fun."

 

Edited September 29 by Gobbler

[Woke to Sounds of Horking]

Only one man can clean up the problem: Bronson.

[Mason45]

11 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

I still have my doubts. To find an accomodation they need their ID, and when they have children, the school needs personal details. Opening a bank account or buying a bike/insurance will require an ID.

Almost impossible without registration. 

I doubt they have any of the above, they all live in shanty style accomodation on the outskirts of town with other illegals. They don't live they exist, their kids don't go to school. They live day to day so they don't need bank accounts. They ride second hand unregistered bikes without a license, It's probably no hardship for them as conditions here are similar to where they came from without the political unrest, military violence etc.

[jacko45k]

18 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

Actually I doubt you'll find a lot of illegal immigrants on building sites. Always I realized police checking the sites. 

Apart of these, if there are any, we're talking of overstayers? A handful I'd say.

Isn't the fishing industry also full of them, the shrimp farms too. 

[newbee2022]

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

Isn't the fishing industry also full of them, the shrimp farms too. 

Yeah, many crack downs

[newbee2022]

2 hours ago, Mason45 said:

I doubt they have any of the above, they all live in shanty style accomodation on the outskirts of town with other illegals. They don't live they exist, their kids don't go to school. They live day to day so they don't need bank accounts. They ride second hand unregistered bikes without a license, It's probably no hardship for them as conditions here are similar to where they came from without the political unrest, military violence etc.

No.

If you want to survive in Thailand you need money, not by stealing but earning. In those areas you describe there is no work to find. So one day or another they will go for a stoney way of  registration. Even in very rural areas there is a bus picking up the kids for school. 

 

[Derek B]

On 9/27/2024 at 7:23 PM, webfact said:

Pattaya authorities detained several illegal immigrant beggars on Thursday to protect the city’s world-class tourism image.

 

On 9/27/2024 at 7:23 PM, webfact said:

Chonburi Provincial Social Development and Human Security Office, jointly launched a crackdown on illegal immigrants begging in Pattaya

But no crack down on stray dogs to protect Thailand's world class tourism image.

[BigStar]

12 hours ago, Gobbler said:

Oh no! It will take them out of the running for Pattaya t,he compassionate city.  

 

"Hey Somchai, let's go find some people who haven't eaten and are begging for food, and we can have some fun."

 

 

What are you on about?

[Sig]

On 9/27/2024 at 10:03 PM, Bday Prang said:

As i said ,there were no quotation marks , except perhaps in your imagination.  It was added by the "journalist"  as clickbait just like I said, and you fell for it hook line and sinker ?    begging is illegal , that is what they have been arrested for along with being here illegally.   Tarnishing the image of Pattaya is not an offence as far as I am aware.

I could be forgiven for not understanding everything written on this forum, some of it makes little sense , as an example your  statement ..." I have no idea why tourists want to go there"     when followed by a  clear explanation of exactly why you think tourists want to go there  "enjoy that sort of sleazy environment."

So do you know why people go there or not?   you seem confused

Your grasp of English seems to continue to evade you. You never said anything about quotation marks before, but now you are saying that you did. And I apparently fell for "it" (not really sure what "it" is) "hook line and sinker"? Nobody, that I'm aware of, believed that "tarnishing the image of Pattaya" is an offence. You yourself mentioned the reason they were arrested. Tarnishing Pattaya's image was an effect of the perpetrators' activities. It was not an offence they were arrested for, so, I don't know why you bothered to mention that irrelevant point.

You seem to still think your idea that the issue of Pattaya having a world class tourism image to protect was only clickbait in the headline and not mentioned in the article is accurate, even though I quoted directly from the article (NOT the headline), two instances where it was very specifically stated. As far as the translator's lack of quoting the exact statements, I don't think that is required (but it appears that this is highly important to you). His paraphrase of what "the authorities" (specifically, Chonburi Immigration, Pattaya City officials, and the Chonburi Provincial Social Development and Human Security Office) said should be good enough. Of course, that assumes the translator is doing his job at least half way decently. Just in case "paraphrasing" is a foreign concept to you, "paraphrasing" involves restating the original statement in different words, capturing the essence or meaning while not using the exact wording of the original statement. Do you seriously think that Pattaya officials are beyond thinking that Pattaya has a world class tourism image that needs to be protected and might say such a thing?

You could "be forgiven for not understanding everything written on this forum"? Again... reading comprehension would greatly assist you in understanding the example you provided. You quote part of what I said, minus the exception statement in the middle of my statement, which explains what you failed to understand. You say that I gave a "clear explanation of exactly why (I) think tourists want to go there" after stating, "I have no idea why tourists want to go there". No, I did not. I gave an exception, clearly stated as such, to one aspect of tourism for which I could understand SOME would want to visit Pattaya. Please read the entire statement again, carefully -- "I have no idea why tourists want to go there, other than the ones who enjoy that sort of sleazy environment." (Emphasis added to help you grasp the meaning)
If you can't understand simple things like these, It's difficult to fathom how you get along day to day. Apologies accepted if you were drinking heavily at the time, woke up on the wrong side of the bed, or some other such thing....

This is tiresome... Go ahead and respond if you like. I don't see any use in banging my head against a wall anymore, when it seems like you are either being intellectually dishonest, purposely difficult, or just can't grasp clear concepts in decent enough English. Unless, of course, maybe you get it now? That would be refreshing.

[Sig]

On 9/27/2024 at 9:39 PM, Cabradelmar said:

I love how Asean trolls it's followers by using terms like "world class" to describe Pattaya 😂 

To be fair to "Asean" (to which, I'm assuming you mean ASEAN NOW), according to the article, it was the Pattaya officials who said that and not just some concoction that ASEAN NOW came up with. In a paraphrase of what the officials said, the article stated, "The authorities said the beggars were causing damage to the image of the city, which is a world-class tourist destination." (Emphasis added)
Definitely agreed on the "😂 " part!

[Cabradelmar]

6 minutes ago, Sig said:

To be fair to "Asean" (to which, I'm assuming you mean ASEAN NOW), according to the article, it was the Pattaya officials who said that and not just some concoction that ASEAN NOW came up with. In a paraphrase of what the officials said, the article stated, "The authorities said the beggars were causing damage to the image of the city, which is a world-class tourist destination." (Emphasis added)
Definitely agreed on the "😂 " part!

When AseanNow chooses to put the words "world class" (in relation to Pattaya) in the actual headline it's just them trolling. The quickest way to stir up the masses is with just this kind of titling... or anything about kathoey 😂 

[Sig]

5 minutes ago, Cabradelmar said:

When AseanNow chooses to put the words "world class" (in relation to Pattaya) in the actual headline it's just them trolling. The quickest way to stir up the masses is with just this kind of titling... or anything about kathoey 😂 

Yeah, the headline is a choice, but it does come directly from the article and they do live ($$$) on clicks....
And maybe they enjoy the absurdity of it as much as many in the forum😅

[watchcat]

On 9/27/2024 at 12:23 PM, webfact said:

The authorities said the beggars were causing damage to the image of the city, which is a world-class tourist destination.

 

There's a simple solution to this problem; dont let them in to Thailand.

[BigStar]

19 hours ago, Sig said:

Yeah, the headline is a choice, but it does come directly from the article and they do live ($$$) on clicks....
And maybe they enjoy the absurdity of it as much as many in the forum😅

 

And The Pattaya News also lives on clicks. We'd need to see the original interview in Thai to know if the "authorities" really used that phrase themselves. Probably not.