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Frozen in time: British expats losing out on pensions in Thailand


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2 hours ago, webfact said:

Three British expats reveal their nightmare experiences of having their UK pension frozen

Brits have it easy. 

 

I'm not eligible but check out the hurdles the Aussies have to deal with to get the Aussie aged pension living in Thailand. 

 

I still don't fully understand how a pensioner can live abroad on the government aged pension. 

My parents always said, study hard, get yourself a good job and save for the future, DO NOT RELY ON THE PENSION. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, chiang mai said:

It may depend where you live I suppose. A friend in Lancaster had a ten month wait to have his heart effectively rebuilt and then two years later, a one year wait to fix an aorta aneurysm, hardly trivial problems.....this was at Blackpool regional hospital. 

 

Also, I'm not saying lengthy waits don't exist. The one thing that has already kicked in for the UK, and Thailand will be worse, is that there just aren't enough youngsters available. 

 

The birth rate has more than halved in Thailand. Crisis stages soon worldwide. 

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17 minutes ago, MCos said:

I sympathize with these people, but at least they get something 

For Kiwis one must be resident in NZ to get anything 

I suspect that will be on the cards for Brits, sooner rather than later. Minimum 180 days in the UK, or no state pension

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one of the factors behind Brexit was that the EU was pressuring the UK - match their pensions to the average levels in the EU - those these people voted themselves out of changing the system that has been in place for years.

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19 minutes ago, chiang mai said:

And whilst we can't get health insurance here, at least we can get treated and not put on some 3 year waiting list.

You can go private in the UK as well. The NHS does not have a monopoly.

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3 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

My sister is a senior NHS HR manager. Here's the problem. Overseas private hospitals are offering funny money. I know a 35 yo cardiac surgeon who has taken a job at USD650,000 basic in California. 

 

One well known former member of this forum has just been hired to an overseas contract paying 450% more than the NHS rate - 

 

How do we stop these specialists from being headhunted? 

You probably can't, not as long as health care remains an industry. Thailand has similar problems, private hospitals here are now opting out of supplying treatment under government plans, because there's no profit in doing so. 

 

There needs to be conditions linked to training that require public service to some degree, for an extended period, otherwise the cost of training must be repaid. That's pretty much what happens here with the best specialists found in the government District and university hospitals. 

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2 hours ago, G_Money said:

That is pretty f——- up. What difference does it make where they live if one is vetted and qualified.

 

Glad America doesn’t have that policy but if Harris wins anything is possible to include complete forfeiture to give to those who refuse to work.  Socialism is what she represents.

I hope she cuts you off for ever

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2 minutes ago, prakhonchai nick said:

I suspect that will be on the cards for Brits, sooner rather than later. Minimum 180 days in the UK, or no state pension

What makes you suspect that? I have not heard anything to suggest that.

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6 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

Also, I'm not saying lengthy waits don't exist. The one thing that has already kicked in for the UK, and Thailand will be worse, is that there just aren't enough youngsters available. 

 

The birth rate has more than halved in Thailand. Crisis stages soon worldwide. 

Yet in Thailand there is a massive oversupply of doctors. Look at the web pages of the private hospitals where you can "Find Your Doctor". In Chiang Mai at least, each private hospital has at least 300 specialists available for consultation, it's almost become a game to see who can offer the highest number. The same names appear on each of the different hospital web sites and are repeated across the city, all trying to earn extra money. Meanwhile, those same people are working their normal jobs at government hospitals.

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42 minutes ago, Gknrd said:

That is been going on for ever, why retire there if you loose?  Best to make it seem like you live in the UK I would think. Surely there are ways around it.

Yes. Live in the Philippines. It's been said before a million times. These fools should have known about the freeze.

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2 minutes ago, chiang mai said:

You probably can't, not as long as health care remains an industry. Thailand has similar problems, private hospitals here are now opting out of supplying treatment under government plans, because there's no profit in doing so. 

 

There needs to be conditions linked to training that require public service to some degree, for an extended period, otherwise the cost of training must be repaid. That's pretty much what happens here with the best specialists found in the government District and university hospitals. 

 

You are living the future already. The rich will gather all resources unto themselves. To hell with the poor. 

 

And even then we'll expats on 80,000 baht a month income lining up for treatment at government hospitals - knocking poor Thais even further back. 

 

I think in that article a guy says " things are tight on 80,000 baht a month." Dear me - tell that to your average Thai. 

 

Terrible. 

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6 minutes ago, chang1 said:

You can go private in the UK as well. The NHS does not have a monopoly.

Again, it comes down to cost. I priced my stenting procedure at Spire Hospitals in the UK and at Bumrungrad. Spires wanted 13k Pounds, plus plus, plus airfare and accomodation. Bumrungrad wanted under 4K Pounds. 

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4 minutes ago, bradiston said:

Yes. Live in the Philippines. It's been said before a million times. These fools should have known about the freeze.

Good luck getting good quality health care nearby where you live. And if you live a few hundred miles away, good luck getting to it alive in under one day.

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17 minutes ago, Middle Aged Grouch said:

Britain seems to need and scrape all the money it can as the UK is giving billions of dollars to Ukraine, to the American led coalition wars in the Middle East and so on. Like many western nations, England prefers to spend money all over but not for it's own.

The frozen pension policy has been around for about 70 years. You're just hijacking the conversation with anti US rhetoric.

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2 hours ago, G_Money said:

That is pretty f——- up. What difference does it make where they live if one is vetted and qualified.

 

Glad America doesn’t have that policy but if Harris wins anything is possible to include complete forfeiture to give to those who refuse to work.  Socialism is what she represents.

You complain about socialism but the U.S. system is social security; do you realize the irony.

 

In addition, Harris has never mentioned changing social security.  Now, could you please provide a link to her opponents healthcare plan he mentions often ??

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5 minutes ago, G_Money said:


P.I. is a dump.  You’ll fit right in.  A match made in heaven.

A dump thanks largely to colonialist Spain and the US, right? In any case, these beggars are hardly in a position to be choosers, are they?

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2 minutes ago, SmokeandIce said:

You complain about socialism but the U.S. system is social security; do you realize the irony.

 

In addition, Harris has never mentioned changing social security.  Now, could you please provide a link to her opponents healthcare plan he mentions often ??


You obviously no nothing about Social Security.  7.5 % of my lifetime wages are paid INTO it.  It’s not a handout.

 

Still have to pay for Medicare A &B out of SS.

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76 years old so is on old state pension starting 2013..and he says he gets £164 a week...I think you better take that comment back..you have been claiming the yearly increase until last year but left UK in 2005...how stupid can people be...someone on here will dob you in

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