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[Nick Carter icp]

31 minutes ago, black tabby12345 said:

Israel VS Hamas.

Battle between one evil and another.

My total impression after all.

 

   The hostages are just as bad as the hostage takers ?

No difference between being a hostage and being held hostage ?

[Rolo89]

1 hour ago, black tabby12345 said:

Israel VS Hamas.

Battle between one evil and another.

My total impression after all.

War is ugly.

 

Neither side is perfect.

 

But only one side is evil. Hamas.

[Nick Carter icp]

5 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

None of the released Thai hostages were tortured.

And sadly, but not surprisingly, the Jews did nothing to help get them freed.

 

   Its expected that Israel would help its own citizens before helping people from other Countries .

   Why should Israel help people from other Countries before it helps its own citizens ?

    What is Thailand doing to help and free its own citizens ?

   Why should the whole World rely on Israel to free their hostages ?

[MalcolmB]

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The hostages are just as bad as the hostage takers ?

No difference between being a hostage and being held hostage ?

You love twisting what people say.

i understand what he means, he didn’t mean what you are claiming.

[MalcolmB]

6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Its expected that Israel would help its own citizens before helping people from other Countries .

   Why should Israel help people from other Countries before it helps its own citizens ?

    What is Thailand doing to help and free its own citizens ?

   Why should the whole World rely on Israel to free their hostages ?

Ditto

[it is what it is]

7 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Its expected that Israel would help its own citizens before helping people from other Countries .

   Why should Israel help people from other Countries before it helps its own citizens ?

    What is Thailand doing to help and free its own citizens ?

   Why should the whole World rely on Israel to free their hostages ?

 

there were 3 or 4 different nationalities taken hostage in the iranian embassy siege, the rescue of the hostages was absolutely not dependent on their nationality.

[Nick Carter icp]

16 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

You love twisting what people say.

i understand what he means, he didn’t mean what you are claiming.

 

   I wasn't twisting anything , he stated that both Israel and Hamas are the same and as bad as each other and that is what I replied to 

[Nick Carter icp]

13 minutes ago, it is what it is said:

 

there were 3 or 4 different nationalities taken hostage in the iranian embassy siege, the rescue of the hostages was absolutely not dependent on their nationality.

 

  Thanks for that input, now lets get back on topic , Thai hostages in Gaza

[safarimike11]

On 10/9/2024 at 8:08 PM, john donson said:

maybe hamas loves thai food now and keeping them as cooks

 

and some little ghosts...

I myself love hummus; problem is that they have ceased stocking it in Friendship.

[lordgrinz]

4 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The hostages are just as bad as the hostage takers ?

No difference between being a hostage and being held hostage ?

 

Tabby is speaking Newspeak, obviously he works for the Ministry of Truth. 

[Patong2021]

On 10/9/2024 at 1:14 AM, ourmanflint said:

Israel treats Thai workers very badly on the kibbutz, Thailand should pull them all out

 

False claim. You post to draw attention away from the fact that the Gazans  violently and cruelly murdered  39 Thais and  abducted 26.  Where is your concern for the Thai victims?

 

Thai workers departed left following  the October massacre. A small number returned in June at the request of the Thai workers, because the wages and working conditions are better than in Thailand. Thai workers earn 8-10X more in Israel than in Thailand.

 

Your claim is a negative myth perpetuated by people who wish to present Israel in a negative light. The reality is that migrant farm labour encounter wrongful  treatment worldwide. It happens in Canada, Sweden and USA too. This neither excuses, nor explains away such event. However, the reality is that such events are infrequent and when they are discovered they are addressed. Israel relied on Thai farm workers and was not in a position to discourage their presence. They did the jobs previously performed by Palestinians who resided in Gaza and the West Bank.

 

The labour treatment complaints are in some cases justified and reported by the workers themselves.  In other cases are reported by inspectors or labour unions.   There are worker hotlines and site inspections. Israel, like the EU, USA and Canada by law requires that the migrant labour dwellings be inspected and notices be posted in worker residences.  For example this circular is provided to farm workers;

Agriculture workers' Rights January 2024:  LaOved – Worker's Hotline is a non-profit organization that provides advice, guidance and legal aid to workers. The following rights are guaranteed by Israeli law to all workers in Israel whether Israeli or not, with or without a visa. If any of the rights where not given/ paid to you, please contact Kav LaOved. We cannot help you receive your money from the employer if you contact us a few days before you leave.

Please contact us at least a month earlier

https://kavlaoved.org.il/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Agriculture-workers-ENG-1.2024.pdf

 

Some of the complaints come from groups who have a vested interest in lodging these complaints, i.e. Labour and social activist groups in Israel. others are politically motivated These complaints mirror those seen in the EU and Canada/USA. Mistreatment of migrant labour is unacceptable, but farms are labour demanding and the conditions seem onerous to those not used to hard work. The treatment of migrant labour in israel is no better or worse than what we see in the western world and is still much better than that seen in the Arab Gulf, Turkey, SE Asia and in Thailand itself. That is because there are  labour protection laws in Israel that are enforced and upheld by an independent judiciary.

 

How about some concern for the  Thai victims of the Arab initiated and organized massacre? Why were Thais murdered? They were obviously farm workers and not Israelis. Why were the Thais abducted and tortured?