France and Italy Deport Extremists Amid Security Concerns

[watthong]

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

Kamala went on Howard Stern because of her failure on 60 minutes. Watch the spin, the first one will be, oh the Post is Murdoch right wing LOL

 

https://nypost.com/2024/10/08/opinion/kamala-harris-is-unable-to-answer-basic-questions-on-60-minutes

 

 "watch the spin?" Sound more like the thief sounding the alarm.

[Skeptic7]

2 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Kinda sad, really. Now he just licks the boot and panders.   Entertainers gotta know when to quit and move on with their lives, not linger like a silent fart.

WTF..."sad" for whom❓Certainly not for Stern, nor Sirius. 

 

SiriusXM clearly sees the value and relevance in him as they forked over $90 million a year for his show in 2019. After his 2020 5-year extension, that number increased to far beyond $100 million, according to Page Six. The final estimate comes in at about 10 million listeners for Howard.

 

Howard Stern has a net worth of $900 million as of 2024. He earns a $130 million annual salary making him the richest television personality and radio host in the world.

May 23, 2024

[JCauto]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

All good. The undecided voters will see that she is too scared to face an interviewer that will ask hard questions, and draw their own conclusions.

Why won't Trump go on 60 Minutes? He's the ONLY major candidate to decline to do that since the show started I believe. According to him, it was:

1) They will fact-check him.

2) He wants an apology for the interview in 2020 when he said that interviewer Lesley Stahl had claimed that Hunter Biden's laptop was a Russian plant.

 

As the 60 Minutes managers noted in their response:

1) They're a news organization, they fact-check everyone and everything.

2) Lesley Stahl never claimed that.

 

Regarding point 2, this is irrefutable since that interview was videotaped. She never said it. As to "fact-checking", isn't it interesting that both Vance and Trump complain about this? Why do you object to fact-checking unless you deliberately are telling falsehoods? 

 

Note that Fox News has sued (and won) in Federal Court the right to lie, based on their claim that they're an opinion show, not a news show. So they don't even pretend to fact check, it's not important since they're essentially a propaganda arm of the Republican Party. 

[JCauto]

2 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Ah, the "good team" argument. Seen it before. If your candidate was any good, you wouldn't need to discuss her team, especially before she has even chosen one. 

I don't think Trump was or is great. His presidency was quite good until Covid hit. Biden has been consistently bad. 

 

As Trump said as a candidate for 2016, he'd “surround myself only with the best and most serious people” – adding: “We want top-of-the-line professionals.”

 

And that was true in many cases, initially. So, what did those people think?

Senior Military

 

General Mark Milley, ex-Chief of Staff of the US Army and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under Trump

 

"We don’t take an oath to a country. We don’t take an oath to a tribe. We don’t take an oath to a religion. We don’t take an oath to a king or a queen, or to a tyrant or a dictator. And we don’t take an oath to a wannabe dictator.”

 

General H.R. McMaster, US Army and National Security Advisor under Trump

 

"President Trump and other officials have repeatedly compromised our principles in pursuit of partisan advantage and personal gain.”

 

General James Mattis, Marine Corps and Secretary of Defense under Trump

 

"Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people — does not even pretend to try. Instead, he tries to divide us. We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership. We can unite without him, drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society.”

 

General John Kelly, Marine Corps and Chief of Staff under Trump

 

"A person who admires autocrats and murderous dictators. A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution and the rule of law.”

 

There's lots of others. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/01/18/opinion/trump-cabinet-election-2024.html

 

[Jingthing]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

All good. The undecided voters will see that she is too scared to face an interviewer that will ask hard questions, and draw their own conclusions.

Oh stop.

She faced 60 minutues

Bone spurs Trump chickened out.

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Did you see that NY will have Prop 1 on the Ballot, that allows men in womens sports? Bet ya that helps Trump in NY LOL. Hes doing a rally at MSG in NYC right before election. Only 13.5 points behind as of three weeks ago.

 

Kamala went on Howard Stern because of her failure on 60 minutes. Watch the spin, the first one will be, oh the Post is Murdoch right wing LOL

 

https://nypost.com/2024/10/08/opinion/kamala-harris-is-unable-to-answer-basic-questions-on-60-minutes/

Trump has zero chance in NY.

[mdr224]

5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Oh stop.

She faced 60 minutues

Bone spurs Trump chickened out.

Watching a clip of it i felt like the guy was too hard on her for asking followup questions. How the hell is she going to be president?

[johnnybangkok]

10 minutes ago, JCauto said:

 

As Trump said as a candidate for 2016, he'd “surround myself only with the best and most serious people” – adding: “We want top-of-the-line professionals.”

 

And that was true in many cases, initially. So, what did those people think?

Senior Military

 

General Mark Milley, ex-Chief of Staff of the US Army and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under Trump

 

"We don’t take an oath to a country. We don’t take an oath to a tribe. We don’t take an oath to a religion. We don’t take an oath to a king or a queen, or to a tyrant or a dictator. And we don’t take an oath to a wannabe dictator.”

 

General H.R. McMaster, US Army and National Security Advisor under Trump

 

"President Trump and other officials have repeatedly compromised our principles in pursuit of partisan advantage and personal gain.”

 

General James Mattis, Marine Corps and Secretary of Defense under Trump

 

"Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people — does not even pretend to try. Instead, he tries to divide us. We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership. We can unite without him, drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society.”

 

General John Kelly, Marine Corps and Chief of Staff under Trump

 

"A person who admires autocrats and murderous dictators. A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution and the rule of law.”

 

There's lots of others. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/01/18/opinion/trump-cabinet-election-2024.html

 

There are sooooo many of his former staff that basically say 'for God's sake don't let this man back into the White House' yet all the Trump fan boys just chalk this down to embittered ex-employees - ignoring the fact there has never been in the history of the US so many ex-employees coming out against a former POTUS. These people experienced him first hand and know what he is all about .

 

'The sheer number of Trump officials speaking out against their former boss, and the severity of their criticism, is highly unusual. It has no historical precedent in the last century, according to three presidential historians and a political scientist interviewed by USA TODAY. “I don’t think we’ve seen anything like this, certainly not in the last 100 years,” said Lindsay Chervinsky, a senior fellow at the Center for Presidential History at Southern Methodist University.'

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/04/12/trumps-critics-former-white-house/73145245007/

 

Here's a few more;-

1. His vice president, Mike Pence: “The American people deserve to know that President Trump asked me to put him over my oath to the Constitution. … Anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be president of the United States.”

2. His second attorney general, Bill Barr: “Someone who engaged in that kind of bullying about a process that is fundamental to our system and to our self-government shouldn’t be anywhere near the Oval Office.”

3. His second secretary of defense, Mark Esper: “I think he’s unfit for office. … He puts himself before country. His actions are all about him and not about the country. And then, of course, I believe he has integrity and character issues as well.”

4. His first secretary of state, Rex Tillerson: “(Trump’s) understanding of global events, his understanding of global history, his understanding of US history was really limited. It’s really hard to have a conversation with someone who doesn’t even understand the concept for why we’re talking about this.”

5. His first ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley: “He used to be good on foreign policy and now he has started to walk it back and get weak in the knees when it comes to Ukraine. A terrible thing happened on January 6 and he called it a beautiful day.”

6.. His presidential transition vice-chairman, Chris Christie: “Someone who I would argue now is just out for himself.”

7. His second national security adviser, HR McMaster: “We saw the absence of leadership, really anti-leadership, and what that can do to our country.”

8. His third national security adviser, John Bolton: “I believe (foreign leaders) think he is a laughing fool.”

9. His second chief of staff, John Kelly: “A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law. There is nothing more that can be said. God help us.”

10. His former acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, who resigned as US special envoy to Ireland after January 6, 2021: “I quit because I think he failed at being the president when we needed him to be that.”

11. One of his many former communications directors, Anthony Scaramucci: “He is the domestic terrorist of the 21st century.”

12. Another former communications director, Stephanie Grisham: “I am terrified of him running in 2024.”

13. His secretary of education, Betsy DeVos, who resigned after January 6: “When I saw what was happening on January 6 and didn’t see the president step in and do what he could have done to turn it back or slow it down or really address the situation, it was just obvious to me that I couldn’t continue.”

15. His secretary of transportation, Elaine Chao, who resigned after January 6: “At a particular point the events were such that it was impossible for me to continue, given my personal values and my philosophy.

16. His first secretary of the Navy, Richard Spencer: “…the president has very little understanding of what it means to be in the military, to fight ethically or to be governed by a uniform set of rules and practices.”

17. His first homeland security adviser, Tom Bossert: “The President undermined American democracy baselessly for months. As a result, he’s culpable for this siege, and an utter disgrace.”

18. His former personal lawyer and fixer, Michael Cohen: “Donald’s an idiot.”

19. His White House lawyer, Ty Cobb: “Trump relentlessly puts forth claims that are not true.”

20. A former director of strategic communications, Alyssa Farah Griffin, who is now a CNN political commentator: “We can stand by the policies, but at this point we cannot stand by the man.”

21. A top aide in charge of his outreach to African Americans, Omarosa Manigault Newman: “Donald Trump, who would attack civil rights icons and professional athletes, who would go after grieving black widows, who would say there were good people on both sides, who endorsed an accused child molester; Donald Trump, and his decisions and his behavior, was harming the country. I could no longer be a part of this madness.”

22. A former deputy press secretary, Sarah Matthews, who resigned after January 6: “I thought that he did do a lot of good during his four years. I think that his actions on January 6 and the lead-up to it, the way that he’s acted in the aftermath, and his continuation of pushing this lie that the election is stolen has made him wholly unfit to hold office every again.”

23. His final chief of staff’s aide, Cassidy Hutchinson: “I think that Donald Trump is the most grave threat we will face to our democracy in our lifetime, and potentially in American history.”

 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/03/politics/donald-trump-former-allies-what-matters/index.html

[Jingthing]

10 minutes ago, mdr224 said:

Watching a clip of it i felt like the guy was too hard on her for asking followup questions. How the hell is she going to be president?

Watch and learn.

She's massively more well suited to be president compared to Putin poodle Trump. 

[Yagoda]

29 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Trump has zero chance in NY.

Thats what they said about Lee Zeldin. 

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Thats what they said about Lee Zeldin. 

You can't seriously believe Trump has a chance in NY.

The reason Trump is doing rallies in hopeless for him states is that he wants big rallies because he's overplayed in swing states and he's getting empty seats and walkouts in even small venues there.

I understand cult "thinking" but are there any limits?

Like do you think Trump can win California, ha ha?

Edited 32 minutes ago by Jingthing

[impulse]

33 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

There are sooooo many of his former staff that basically say 'for God's sake don't let this man back into the White House' yet all the Trump fan boys just chalk this down to embittered ex-employees - ignoring the fact there has never been in the history of the US so many ex-employees coming out against a former POTUS. These people experienced him first hand and know what he is all about .

 

The problem with that is most voters are fed up with gub'ment employees.  I can walk into any county office or DMV and point to a goodly percentage that are just stealing oxygen, on the taxpayer dime.  Not to mention, rude.  So when I hear about embittered ex-employees, I suspect they're bitter because they were actually required to do something, or find the door.

 

Of course, there are great gub'ment employees, too.  And they're just as fed-up with carrying the weight for the dead wood.