Why are most movies released post-2000 unwatchable?

[Kwaibill]

16 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Yes.

It seems that the year 2000 marks the divide between some decent Hollywood film-making pre-2000, and what has now become garbage films that are not watchable.

 

Why is this?

 

Pandering to overseas markets? 

 

Dumbing down of content and themes?

 

Fear of offending any segment of the movie-goer market?

 

Lack of reading on the part of the public who watches the new garbage films?

 

Other reasons?

 

Has America completely lost any semblance of having a meaningful culture, these days?

 

We know that there has been a sharp divide in quality which happened 25 years ago...

 

But why?

 

 

Almost entirely a subjective opinion, though I agree with Dinsdale that a black “ Snow White” seems just too counterintuitive. Not having seen it I don’t know how or if they dealt with that inconsistency.

I don’t recall any dwarves in “Snow White and the Huntsman” so no problem with that. I wasn’t really watching though, just glanced up as my wife was viewing it.

I have to say I’ve enjoyed a number of non-US films. Hollywood does not have a monopoly on decent movies.

Edited October 17 by Kwaibill
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[Wuvu2]

There are a limited number of story lines and we are old so we have seen them all many times. I use bit torrent and feel that  most movies are worth exactly what I pay for them 😉 

[jayboy]

2 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Why are most movies released post-2000 unwatchable?

 

Because they (have to?) cater for and are tailored toward the American market.

 

Wrong.The distorting factor in movies over two decades has been catering for the China market.

[scubascuba3]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I though the latest Dune was the best of many. The one with Kyle MacLachlan was awful.

The only explanation I can come up with for your opinion is that you never read the book, which would be essential to understand what was happening.

Reading the book would make you a fanboy which you'd need to be to think the movie was good

[Thingamabob]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

No, it's pandering to the wokists, probably because the cabal that produce movies are woke.

....plus some very sloppy editing.

[john donson]

cataract maybe ?

 

deadpool 3 was great... same as deadpool 2

 

lol

[Anthony mellows]

Writers,directors of movies nowadays are too self indulgent, and out of touch with what ordinary people want to see. Joker 2 movie a good example.

[cardinalblue]

Number of great movies are produced every year but are limited in volume...

 

Hollywood caters to the overall and average movie goer who wants junk and action films...Great acting is beyond the average viewer so Hollywood produces to what the viewers want and can handle cognitively....Could you imagine Americans trying to understand western European films?  more of Fast and Furious Xll....burn baby burn

[scubascuba3]

9 minutes ago, Anthony mellows said:

Writers,directors of movies nowadays are too self indulgent, and out of touch with what ordinary people want to see. Joker 2 movie a good example.

Part of the problem is we have changed, when i rewatch movie, time and time again it's disappointing 

[jesimps]

21 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Yes.

It seems that the year 2000 marks the divide between some decent Hollywood film-making pre-2000, and what has now become garbage films that are not watchable.

 

Why is this?

 

Pandering to overseas markets? 

 

Dumbing down of content and themes?

 

Fear of offending any segment of the movie-goer market?

 

Lack of reading on the part of the public who watches the new garbage films?

 

Other reasons?

 

Has America completely lost any semblance of having a meaningful culture, these days?

 

We know that there has been a sharp divide in quality which happened 25 years ago...

 

But why?

 

 

Woke? I refuse to be brainwashed by the lefties, so am careful what I watch. Mainly carefully selected documentaries. 

Edited October 17 by jesimps

[OneMoreFarang]

DEI

 

 

[Skeptic7]

They're not unwatchable. Not anymore than pre-2000...and many pre-2000 are excruciatingly SLOW developing, too long and too boring compared to the in-yo-face action/entertainment and usually faster character development from the get-go of today's flicks.

Edited October 17 by Skeptic7

[kevozman1]

Hollywood has really gone downhill in the last 15 years. In that period it seems to have been mostly goofy Marvel and Disney crap or remaking an old movie, but this time changing the actors into a more 'diverse' cast. All by design of course. This isn't a coincidence. Sadly many of the other world movie making scenes have gone downhill. Hong Kong, Japan and the UK rarely make anything good thesedays. South Korea just seem to rip off American media in everything they do. And then there is Bollywood and Nollywood, which beyond the unintentional comedy genre produce complete garbage. 

 

Here are a few good Hollywood movies post 2000 that are worth a watch: Gangs of New York, Blade Runner 2049, No Country for Old Men, Drive.. Ermmm I am struggling now. Partly due to my average memory and partly due a lack of quality movies.

[farangkinok]

Check out "Nefarious" movie (2023) with Sean Patrick Flannery and Jordan Belfi. Excellent acting and defnitely thought-provoking! The twist at the end is killer.

 

It can be viewed online for free if you know where to look.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 10/17/2024 at 2:55 PM, fredwiggy said:

I'm not a hero worshiper by any means, looking at actors as just that.

The movie was called Hero!

 

I don't associate No country for old men with Hollywood. Hollywood is more Transformers, and remakes of Disney cartoons like Cinderella and Mary Poppins.

[thaibeachlovers]

16 hours ago, kevozman1 said:

Hollywood has really gone downhill in the last 15 years. In that period it seems to have been mostly goofy Marvel and Disney crap or remaking an old movie, but this time changing the actors into a more 'diverse' cast. All by design of course. This isn't a coincidence. Sadly many of the other world movie making scenes have gone downhill. Hong Kong, Japan and the UK rarely make anything good thesedays. South Korea just seem to rip off American media in everything they do. And then there is Bollywood and Nollywood, which beyond the unintentional comedy genre produce complete garbage. 

 

Here are a few good Hollywood movies post 2000 that are worth a watch: Gangs of New York, Blade Runner 2049, No Country for Old Men, Drive.. Ermmm I am struggling now. Partly due to my average memory and partly due a lack of quality movies.

Sorry, but I thought the remake of Blade Runner was just garbage.

 

There are good movies being made but not by Hollywood, which has gone corporate, PC and woke.

 

As an example of a non Hollywood movie that I consider to be excellent can't beat Begin Again.

[thaibeachlovers]

22 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Reading the book would make you a fanboy which you'd need to be to think the movie was good

Reading the book explains what was going on. There is far too much going on in the Dune Universe to explain in a couple of hours. It was by far the best movie version of the Book.

[thaibeachlovers]

16 hours ago, kevozman1 said:

Sadly many of the other world movie making scenes have gone downhill. Hong Kong, Japan and the UK rarely make anything good thesedays

You obviously don't watch good Japanese anime then.

[Pattaya57]

Guardians of the Galaxy and Deadpool movies were pretty good 😀 

 

Edited October 18 by Pattaya57

[thaibeachlovers]

On 10/17/2024 at 9:48 PM, scubascuba3 said:

Part of the problem is we have changed, when i rewatch movie, time and time again it's disappointing 

Easily solved- don't rewatch movies.

[thaibeachlovers]

10 hours ago, Pattaya57 said:

Guardians of the Galaxy and Deadpool movies were pretty good 😀 

 

The first Deadpool was good the second is garbage. All those Guardian of the Galaxy type movies started well and degenerated into mind porridge till they became unwatchable. I liked transformer movies till they started taking them seriously. Same with Ironman, started well then they thought they were actual quality movies, put a ton of money into special effects and reduced them to a shallow mockery of the genre.

 

The actual worst part of the fiasco was when they started putting women into kick ass abominations like Wonderwoman. Also putting really unlikeable women into movies, and pretending that was cool or something. For an example of a woman carrying a strong female character in a high quality series, look no further than Dana Delaney in China Beach. A strong female lead in a well written and produced series, and she didn't kick ass once.

 

That's what happens when movies are made by committee. When there are 5 different writers and it was directed by multiple directors it's going to be garbage.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 10/17/2024 at 6:46 PM, Kwaibill said:

I don’t recall any dwarves in “Snow White and the Huntsman” so no problem with that. I wasn’t really watching though, just glanced up as my wife was viewing it.

That was actually a good movie, but it didn't take itself too seriously, and the leads were actually likeable.

BTW, there were dwarves in it, along with fairies.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 10/17/2024 at 9:37 PM, Anthony mellows said:

Writers,directors of movies nowadays are too self indulgent, and out of touch with what ordinary people want to see. Joker 2 movie a good example.

Indeed. Batman started out as a light hearted type movie franchise and ended up in some dark abomination with Batman fighting Superman.

One's mind is boggled. Could that be the Edsel of movie franchise films?

[scubascuba3]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Easily solved- don't rewatch movies.

Yeah but I'm getting desperate, new movies are so lame

[GammaGlobulin]

5 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Yeah but I'm getting desperate, new movies are so lame

 

I am not sure what this Topic is doing in the Entertainment section???

 

Obviously, this Topic belongs in the Sociology section, for which it was originally intended.

 

Hopefully, someone will move this Topic back, after the Sociology section has been created.

 

Or, next time I will label the Topic, relevant to Cultural Anthropology, just so nobody gets confused.

 

 

[Cory1848]

On 10/17/2024 at 8:37 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

No, it's pandering to the wokists, probably because the cabal that produce movies are woke.

What is it with you guys and “wokism,” which has to be the biggest bogeyman of the past decade? Lots of great movies have been made the past ten years, and if you raised the (non)issue of “wokism” with the people who made them, they’d laugh you off as irrelevant and silly.

 

“Dunkirk,” “All Quiet on the Western Front” (remake), and “1917” are three of the greatest war movies ever made; for horror movies, there’s “Hereditary,” “Under the Skin,” and “Vacancy” among many others. Just about anything by Yorgos Lanthimos (“The Lobster,” “The Killing of a Sacred Deer”), or starring Rebecca Hall (“Christine,” “The Gift,” “The Night House”) or Florence Pugh (“Midsommer,” “Don’t Worry Darling”). Lots of great small-budget films (“Emily the Criminal,” “Never Rarely Sometimes Always”). “Get Out” is like a punch in the face, as is the Coen Brothers’ “A Serious Man” but in a different way. Oscar winners “Oppenheimer” and “Parasite” were amazing films. I’m just rattling off the top of my head.

 

Movies are a matter of taste, for sure; I’m not big on blockbuster-type movies for instance. And lots of great movies were made prior to 2000 as well, going back to “The Birth of a Nation,” a racist screed but brilliantly made for its time. Get out of your rabbit hole and look around, and ween yourself off this “wokism” shtick, it’s really boring.

[GammaGlobulin]

22 minutes ago, Cory1848 said:

What is it with you guys and “wokism,” which has to be the biggest bogeyman of the past decade?

 

I totally AGREE with your assessment!

 

In fact, I agree with Chomsky concerning this misunderstanding of Wokism, which you here point out.

 

One of the very best vids concerning Wokism was actually done by, most surprisingly, Piers Morgan when he recorded this interview with Noam.

Definitely worth watching !!!  And, this is a side of Piers that we see just too infrequently.

 

He actually asks good questions, and let's Noam respond, in full, without cutting him off.

 

Wokism is completely misunderstood by the average uneducated American, seemingly.

Wish more Americans would watch this....!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

[wombat]

I've never read a film critic whose views were the same as mine.

Why would yours be any different?

🙃🫠😉

[newnative]

      I think good movies are still being made, you just need to look for them.  In the age of streaming and Netflix, though, some stories that might have been two hour theatrical movies are now, instead, being made into limited series and given an expanded treatment. 

      Chernobyl, for example, could have been a movie but I thought it worked very well expanded into 5-parts that allowed extra time to delve into the story.  Ditto for others such as Godless, Band of Brothers, Catch-22, Fosse/Verdon, The Queen's Gambit, Dopesick, All the Light We Cannot See, Lessons in Chemistry, and  many others.

[GammaGlobulin]

On 10/17/2024 at 12:46 PM, Kwaibill said:

Almost entirely a subjective opinion

 

I have found that very few opinions expressed here are entirely objective.