Visit Thailand for just under 90 days with Thai wife. Visa advice please.

[Liquorice]

If I may answer your reply @bigt3116

 

1 hour ago, bigt3116 said:

For a 1 year extension of stay using the income method, then this financial evidence has to be from a Thai bank account by way of 12 x 40K monthly overseas transfers Incorrect

My reply was to a member enquiring about using the income method. He isn't employed or working, so his only option would be to use the 40K monthly overseas transfers to a Thai bank account, OR, an Embassy Income letter (subject to his nationality) for the 1-year extension.
You mentioned income from within Thailand was an alternative method, which I acknowledged, adding it was by means of a tax receipt and payslips, however in this instance it wasn't applicable.

 

1 hour ago, bigt3116 said:

I think you can use local income to satisfy the 40k per month too, it does not have to come from overseas, (same as if you get an in-country Non-O based on marriage, that money does not have to have come from overseas). Correct

Already acknowledged, you can use income from within Thailand for the 1 year extension of stay.

However, for the in Country Non O application, you are totally incorrect regarding the income method.

Only an Embassy Income letter is acceptable in this instance. Immigration do not accept either income from within Thailand, or 40K monthly overseas transfers.

 

Edited October 22 by Liquorice

[Liquorice]

Att @bigt3116

 

Financial requirements acceptable to Immigration for an in Country application for the Non O based on Thai spouse.

 

 

 

Note 7.1 - Income method.
Note 7.2 - Funds in the bank method.

[chipperPDU]

3 hours ago, Liquorice said:

Att @bigt3116

 

Financial requirements acceptable to Immigration for an in Country application for the Non O based on Thai spouse.

 

 

 

Note 7.1 - Income method.
Note 7.2 - Funds in the bank method.

This info is for changing type of visa inside Thailand. Has nothing to do with any e-visa applied for outside Thailand.

Edited October 22 by chipperPDU

[Liquorice]

1 hour ago, chipperPDU said:

This info is for changing type of visa inside Thailand. Has nothing to do with any e-visa applied for outside Thailand.

I never raised the question, just answered it.

[Rob Browder]

8 hours ago, bigt3116 said:

I think you can use local income to satisfy the 40k per month too, it does not have to come from overseas, (same as if you get an in-country Non-O based on marriage, that money does not have to have come from overseas). Correct

You can use income over 40K / mo from a job in Thailand with work-permit, but you will need to provide a stack of Thai company documents - basically, the same as would be needed for a Non-B Visa - a big PITA.  Then, if you go for the 1-year extension - do it all over again. 

 

"Self employment" would need to be a Thai company - otherwise back to the 12-months of transfers to prove the income (edit: IF your imm-office will accept them).

Edited October 22 by Rob Browder

[DrJack54]

The OP asked a simple question.

All posts regarding extensions from non O are off topic. 

[bigt3116]

6 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

The OP asked a simple question.

All posts regarding extensions from non O are off topic. 

 

As are posts about getting a Non-O in country, maybe they should be deleted too?

[it is what it is]

 

does anyone have an actual example of  an airline refusing to board someone going visa exempt but with no onward flight within 60 days?

 

or is it a hypothetical situation, unlikely to occur(?) especially if the return flight is within 90 days?

[bigt3116]

8 minutes ago, it is what it is said:

 

does anyone have an actual example of  an airline refusing to board someone going visa exempt but with no onward flight within 60 days?

 

or is it a hypothetical situation, unlikely to occur(?) especially if the return flight is within 90 days?

 

Plenty of reports of it

[DrJack54]

10 minutes ago, it is what it is said:

or is it a hypothetical situation, unlikely to occur(?) especially if the return flight is within 90 days?

I have seen few reports of folk being issued boarding pass with return flight past the (previously) 30 day visa exempt entry. 

A signing of a waiver sometimes asked for by supervisor.

In any event from the OP......

 

"think maybe best if I go for the Non O. The thought of being knocked back (however  unlikely) at Heathrow, wife in tears etc., is too much of a worry."  

 

Seems that the OP is not interested in possibility of drama.

Perhaps for that reason he is leaning to Non O eVisa over visa exempt (that also requires extension at immigration)

 

[Hanuman2547]

Personally, I would just get the 60 day visa exempt on arrival and then extend it at your local immigration office for another 30 days.  A lot easier than going through the Marriage or Retirement visa route.  

[sandyf]

On 10/19/2024 at 12:34 PM, bigt3116 said:

 

But it would require financials;

 

Retirement

"Financial evidence showing monthly income of no less than 65,000 THB (£1,500) or having the current balance of 800,000 THB (£18,000), e.g. bank statements, proof of earnings
- Applicant's recent official UK/Ireland bank statement shows your name, address ( Screenshots are not accepted). For monthly income of last 3 months no less than £1,500/ month.

"

 

Marriage

"Financial evidence showing monthly income of no less than 40,000 THB (£1,000) or having the current balance of 400,000 THB (£10,000), e.g. bank statements, proof of earnings
- Applicant's recent official UK/Ireland bank statement shows your name, address ( Screenshots are not accepted). For monthly income of last 3 months no less than £1,000/ month."

 

The above are from the RTE London.

 

Maybe a 60 visa exempt and a 30 day extension is less hassle?

You are mistaken, that is a left over from the days of the ME visa.

Many, myself included, have obtained the single entry with a lot less. I seem to remember anything over £1000 would be accepted for SE based on marriage.

[Liquorice]

15 minutes ago, Hanuman2547 said:

Personally, I would just get the 60 day visa exempt on arrival and then extend it at your local immigration office for another 30 days.  A lot easier than going through the Marriage or Retirement visa route.  

What could be easier than sitting in a chair in the comfort of your own home and applying online for the Non O visa, which you receive by return email, against entering VE, filing a TM30, then visiting your local Immigration office in person, with a handful of printed documents and completing a TM7 form, travel, expense, time when that can all be avoided.

 

Of course if you can't meet the financial requirements for the Non O, then it's a different matter.

[Middle Aged Grouch]

Lot's of great information and thank you to all the valuable contributions

 

But not to forget that each different immigration office in Thailand or area,  has or makes it's own rules.

 

Their own rules that can vary from one day to another, depending of the mood of God dressed in brown uniform behind his or her glass counter !!

[samsingsong]

Thank you all for your input.

I've applied for the E-Visa Non O on the basis of visiting a Thai family (with my Thai wife).

This trip is costing enough as it is, but I'd rather pay the £60 up front for the peace of mind. Even though the possibility of a problem at departure is extremely unlikely!

[DrJack54]

18 hours ago, samsingsong said:

I've applied for the E-Visa Non O on the basis of visiting a Thai family (with my Thai wife).

Good result. 

Can you report back when you obtain the non O eVisa and detail any glitch

Seems from various reports that eVisa for various visa types has been simplified. 

[Jaggg88]

On 10/22/2024 at 8:24 AM, Chivas said:

What Airline asked you that at Heathrow please

It is the official rule but it depends on your check-in agent. IATA supplies the information to the airlines, which is displayed on the screen when you check-in. I've been asked by Emirates, Qatar, Etihad, Gulf Air (from UK) and Air Asia (from Australia), but I'm often not asked. You can negate any worries by purchasing an onward ticket online before you travel for just $14. It is a genuine ticket and is valid for 48 hours so purchase just before you fly or if they ask for one and you don't have one then step out of the line and purchase one. Easy peasy

[DrJack54]

2 hours ago, Jaggg88 said:

It is a genuine ticket and is valid for 48 hours so purchase just before you fly or if they ask for one and you don't have one then step out of the line and purchase one. Easy peasy

True. However post from OP above yours is that he has applied for non O eVisa

 

[sandyf]

On 10/22/2024 at 4:27 PM, Middle Aged Grouch said:

Lot's of great information and thank you to all the valuable contributions

 

But not to forget that each different immigration office in Thailand or area,  has or makes it's own rules.

 

Their own rules that can vary from one day to another, depending of the mood of God dressed in brown uniform behind his or her glass counter !!

Why the best option for the OP was to apply for an E-visa, nothing to do with immigration.

I lived here for 6 years before I found out where immigration was.

[samsingsong]

Thanks everyone for your comments.

I applied for my 90 day non O visa on 22 October and received it today, 31 October. They state it's usually processed within 10 days (although I've got them within a week previously).

A couple of years ago I found the e-visa application very frustrating, having to re-size photo's and several bugs and snags in the system. This time it was much easier / straight forward, and I got it all done in an afternoon. 

So, all going well, we'll be off at the end of the month. Wife happy to see her family and eat somtam, I'll be happy to avoid the worst of the English winter and ease my aching old bones in the sunshine with the occasional beer Chang.   

All the best🍻

[DrJack54]

2 hours ago, samsingsong said:

I applied for my 90 day non O visa on 22 October and received it today, 31 October

Good result. Thanks for the update.

With your itinerary and a 90 day stamp that you will receive you are good to go and no dealings with immigration office in Thailand. 

Good choice.