Onward ticket provider (new to me)

[NowNow]

6 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Based on reports over time...

"onwardticket.com" has proven to have zero issues. For few extra bucks might be money well spent. Other companies also success.

The posts re use of debit card issues, is not a problem with that company. 

 

We know about Onward Ticket. This thread is in regard to an alternative. No one has suggested any issue using debit cards with them. TBH I have no idea why you created a post about it and then quoted me. 

Perhaps you misunderstood something or meant to refer to Onward Flights.

 

 

 

[NowNow]

3 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Do not understand your post.

Forget the "fake" take on things.

Post facts. Was onward ticket from company you used successful or not?

Your post is scaremongering.

If you have not used this option personally than posting random review is meaningless 

 

 

You are doing it again here. Onward Tickets is fine. This thread is with regard to Onward Flights.

You keep berating people for providing useful info.

[zzzzz]

14 hours ago, NowNow said:

 

 

OP made a post earlier, slagging them off as they didn't reply to his annoying emails.

used them twice, and if i hadn't would not have been allowed to board
https://bookonwardticket.com/how-it-works/  shows u what you get>>

[Liquorice]

20+ years ago when I still worked, the most holiday time I could take en bloc was 3 weeks, and I always had a return ticket within 21 days.

 

The Thai Embassies state;
Foreigners entering Thailand by any means under the Visa Exemption scheme are required at the port of entry to have proof of planned travel (confirmed air, train, bus, or boat tickets) to leave Thailand within 60 days of the arrival date. https://london.thaiembassy.org/en/page/exemp-visa

 

What is the purpose of having an onward ticket.
To show an intent not to overstay, or an alternative means to depart if refused entry?

[Chivas]

19 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

20+ years ago when I still worked, the most holiday time I could take en bloc was 3 weeks, and I always had a return ticket within 21 days.

 

The Thai Embassies state;
Foreigners entering Thailand by any means under the Visa Exemption scheme are required at the port of entry to have proof of planned travel (confirmed air, train, bus, or boat tickets) to leave Thailand within 60 days of the arrival date. https://london.thaiembassy.org/en/page/exemp-visa

 

What is the purpose of having an onward ticket.
To show an intent not to overstay, or an alternative means to depart if refused entry?

 

The purpose of the onward ticket is simple. Whilst it can be certainly argued that immigration could ask to see a ticket outbound in whatever format (I havent been in now 171 entries) its primary purpose as regards the airline carrying you is it alleviates them of any potential fine (now up to $10.000) should any country refuse you being landed because you didnt have that onward ticket

 

In short its covering their backsides  and you cant blame them

[Liquorice]

3 minutes ago, Chivas said:

The purpose of the onward ticket is simple. Whilst it can be certainly argued that immigration could ask to see a ticket outbound in whatever format (I havent been in now 171 entries) its primary purpose as regards the airline carrying you is it alleviates them of any potential fine (now up to $10.000) should any country refuse you being landed because you didnt have that onward ticket

It's already been established though that these onward flight tickets are 'fake', not an actual booking.

What use is an onward flight, bus, train or boat ticket if you're refused entry anyway, unless the flight is genuine and booked from the same destination as the arrival.

Exactly how does it cover an airline backside, as they would still be responsible to return you to your point of departure.

[Chivas]

19 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

It's already been established though that these onward flight tickets are 'fake', not an actual booking.

What use is an onward flight, bus, train or boat ticket if you're refused entry anyway, unless the flight is genuine and booked from the same destination as the arrival.

Exactly how does it cover an airline backside, as they would still be responsible to return you to your point of departure.

 

The tickets are "genuine" in that they appear in an airline reservation system for 48 hours after the 6 character airline code is generated

 

Did you read the point that I made in 171 entries I've never been asked to show any kind of ticket at immigration.... Yes it could though which is why on the last 3 flights inbound I've done (one ways) I've purchased that onward ticket mainly because its the airline that 99% of the time that could be difficult and highly unlikely (based on experience) immigration itself

 

If you read my Air India trip report in the travel section you'll see how close I was to having to produce it

 

Notwithstanding the fake bit go back and read the OP. The guy who supplied the information did have to make use of one of his and produced it at check in when flying to Japan.....the onward ticket was for the same airline. Ground handling did indeed check it and it as expected it was perfectly valid

 

Out of interest all 3 onwards tickets I had were generated via Singapore airlines

 

Coincidence or not I have no idea

[DrJack54]

51 minutes ago, Chivas said:

its primary purpose as regards the airline carrying you is it alleviates them of any potential fine (now up to $10.000) should any country refuse you being landed because you didnt have that onward ticket

This is correct.

Regardless if the ticket is a "rent a ticket" or throw away cheap flight, it covers the airline from fine. 

In any event the ticket even if real would most likely be useless as not allow for change of date/destination etc.

[Liquorice]

4 hours ago, Chivas said:

Notwithstanding the fake bit go back and read the OP. The guy who supplied the information did have to make use of one of his and produced it at check in when flying to Japan.....the onward ticket was for the same airline. Ground handling did indeed check it and it as expected it was perfectly valid

That's the point I was making.

Same airline, same departure point as arrival.

 

Couple of years ago, a friend entering VE purchased an onward ticket from DMK to Phnom Penh

At check in, Emirates UK, they checked his outbound ticket but refused boarding with that outbound ticket.

The check in counter asked him "As we land at Suvarnabhumi airport, if refused entry, how would you travel to depart DMK"?
He had to book another outbound ticket from SUV to Phnom Penh.

 

According to Emirates, if refused entry they would have been responsible for taking him back to his point of departure as the outbound ticket was unusable, fake or genuine.

[Pattaya57]

13 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

That's the point I was making.

Same airline, same departure point as arrival.

 

Couple of years ago, a friend entering VE purchased an onward ticket from DMK to Phnom Penh

At check in, Emirates UK, they checked his outbound ticket but refused boarding with that outbound ticket.

The check in counter asked him "As we land at Suvarnabhumi airport, if refused entry, how would you travel to depart DMK"?
He had to book another outbound ticket from SUV to Phnom Penh.

 

According to Emirates, if refused entry they would have been responsible for taking him back to his point of departure as the outbound ticket was unusable, fake or genuine.

That whole story has nothing to do with having a rent a ticket, rather you now say any onward flight out of Thailand must be from the same airport you arrive. What a load of rubbish!

[Caldera]

33 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

That's the point I was making.

Same airline, same departure point as arrival.

 

Couple of years ago, a friend entering VE purchased an onward ticket from DMK to Phnom Penh

At check in, Emirates UK, they checked his outbound ticket but refused boarding with that outbound ticket.

The check in counter asked him "As we land at Suvarnabhumi airport, if refused entry, how would you travel to depart DMK"?
He had to book another outbound ticket from SUV to Phnom Penh.

 

According to Emirates, if refused entry they would have been responsible for taking him back to his point of departure as the outbound ticket was unusable, fake or genuine.

 

They were wrong in any case, there's no requirement to have a flight out from the same airport. If you encounter a clueless check-in clerk like that one, you need to ask to speak to the supervisor instead of falling over backwards to meet such an insane demand. 

[Liquorice]

6 hours ago, Pattaya57 said:

That whole story has nothing to do with having a rent a ticket, rather you now say any onward flight out of Thailand must be from the same airport you arrive. What a load of rubbish!

 

5 hours ago, Caldera said:

 

They were wrong in any case, there's no requirement to have a flight out from the same airport. If you encounter a clueless check-in clerk like that one, you need to ask to speak to the supervisor instead of falling over backwards to meet such an insane demand. 

If you read my earlier post that quoted a Thai Embassy site.
"Foreigners entering Thailand by any means under the Visa Exemption scheme are required at the port of entry to have proof of planned travel (confirmed air, train, bus, or boat tickets) to leave Thailand within 60 days of the arrival date". https://london.thaiembassy.org/en/page/exemp-visa

 

I'll repeat, what is the point of the above outward tickets, if refused entry you're stuck airside and can use them.
The airlines will be aware of that, so is it really to cover an airline backside.

In that case scenario, who would be responsible for arranging a flight out from the same airport.
The airline who just brought you, or yourself?

[DrJack54]

If denied entry you will end up paying for the flight to exit Thailand.

In most cases that will be back to where you departed from.

Failing that back to passport country. Note not saying airline never pays..

The onward flight be that rent a ticket or throw away real ticket is useless. 

I can post pictures of "holding area" for Bangkok airports however thinking against forum rules.

It ain't pleasant. 

 

@Tod Daniels has complete summary in this thread 

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1330417-ive-been-denied-entry-to-thailand-now-what/

[Chivas]

18 hours ago, Pattaya57 said:

That whole story has nothing to do with having a rent a ticket, rather you now say any onward flight out of Thailand must be from the same airport you arrive. What a load of rubbish!

 

Indeed...

[Chivas]

Seeing Liquorice mentioned Emirates they were actually the only airline that I have had problems with re ground handling (other than that minor issue with Air India earlier this month) and that was 17 years ago at Gatwick when I was using the return portion of a Bangkok/London/Bangkok ticket so now effectively one way

 

I didnt have a visa on that occasion and I was extremely close to being offloaded but they granted me a chat with Head of station. Fortunately I was decently dressed and they let me board but had to sign an indemnity for any fine (it was $2000 back then)

 

We didnt seem to have this onward ticketing issue back then but certainly was never asked to buy one on the spot it was all about the lack of visa that day because one way ticket

Edited October 26 by Chivas

[GypsyT]

On 10/25/2024 at 9:18 AM, Chivas said:

Notwithstanding the fake bit go back and read the OP. The guy who supplied the information did have to make use of one of his and produced it at check in when flying to Japan

Are you saying he fly on $7 or $12 ticket to Japan?

 

[Chivas]

1 hour ago, GypsyT said:

Are you saying he fly on $7 or $12 ticket to Japan?

 

 

No you're completely misunderstanding the thread

No one suggested he did.....just on that occasion flying to Japan (on a regular ticket) on a one way ticket he was asked for onward travel out of Japan subsequently

It just so happened that his "rent a ticket" at $7 was the same airline and ground handling actually checked it and it was  "live" in the reservation system at the time of his departure

[charliebadenhop]

Please forgive my ignorance..... but

Why do people need onward tickets????

 

 

[DrJack54]

8 minutes ago, charliebadenhop said:

Please forgive my ignorance..... but

Why do people need onward tickets????

 

 

In the main that the airline at departure may require proof of onward flight if entering visa exempt.

Can also be asked by immigration at arrival airport.

This is not required for those folk with a visa or reentry permit. 

[DrJack54]

Off topic post removed 

[persimmon]

5 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

In the main that the airline at departure may require proof of onward flight if entering visa exempt.

Can also be asked by immigration at arrival airport.

This is not required for those folk with a visa or reentry permit. 

Last time I had a return flight to come back to the UK after 5 months . Thai Airways never asked any questions . I had a SETV. Do you think if I did the same but without visa they might demand a flight out within 60 days ?

[DrJack54]

8 minutes ago, persimmon said:

I had a SETV. Do you think if I did the same but without visa they might demand a flight out within 60 days ?

Airline would not ask for onward flight if you had a Visa or reentry permit.

Visa exempt is different.

Suggested alternatives discussed in this thread and many others.