Why is Joe Rogan so popular??? Can anyone, logically, explain his popularity?

[youreavinalaff]

11 hours ago, MarkyM3 said:

You clearly know little about the true causes of the conflict in NI. Religion was the side issue. 

 

Why don't you educate us about Aisha, Mohamed's 6 year old wife by the way? Or kuffar. Or are these made up as well?

Religion was an issue, as you confirm. I've never suggested it was the whole issue. Thanks.

 

Are your examples from the Quran made up? I can't confirm either way. Neither can you. 

 

How about Noah's ark or the talking snake in the garden of Eden? Are they real?

[MarkyM3]

2 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

Religion was an issue, as you confirm. I've never suggested it was the whole issue. Thanks.

 

Are your examples from the Quran made up? I can't confirm either way. Neither can you. 

 

How about Noah's ark or the talking snake in the garden of Eden? Are they real?

If you're saying that Aisha was made up then I don't think your Islamic friends will be too impressed. Or are you a kuffar in disguise? 

[Evil Penevil]

2 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

Religion was an issue, as you confirm. I've never suggested it was the whole issue. Thanks

 

The point is that the IRA and its members did not act in the name of the Catholic Church, nor were they primarily motivated by religion.  The jihadis who shout "Allahu akbar" are motivated by religion.

[youreavinalaff]

12 minutes ago, MarkyM3 said:

If you're saying that Aisha was made up then I don't think your Islamic friends will be too impressed. Or are you a kuffar in disguise? 

I love the assumptions and the digs. They speak volumes.

Edited 11 hours ago by youreavinalaff

[FruitPudding]

8 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

The point is that the IRA and its members did not act in the name of the Catholic Church, nor were they primarily motivated by religion.  The jihadis who shout "Allahu akbar" are motivated by religion.

 

They also didn't stab children, or gang rape women, or go door-to-door killing innocent families, like Hamas did last year, while Palestine and Muslims celebrated globally. 

[youreavinalaff]

9 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

The point is that the IRA and its members did not act in the name of the Catholic Church, nor were they primarily motivated by religion.  The jihadis who shout "Allahu akbar" are motivated by religion.

How many protestant IRA members do you know?

 

How many protestants do you know who would have willingly walked into a catholic area during the troubles?

 

How about the Catholic groom in a wedding party who was gunned down for marrying a non Catholic?

 

You're saying the above were not motivated by religion? How strange.

[youreavinalaff]

1 minute ago, FruitPudding said:

 

They also didn't stab children, or gang rape women, or go door-to-door killing innocent families, like Hamas did last year, while Palestine and Muslims celebrated globally. 

Did they not?

 

A pregnant woman and her child didn't die in an IRA bombing?

 

Innocent people weren't maimed by their terrorist attacks?

 

As for the stabbing you mention, if you're referring to Stockport, you've incorrectly linked to Islam.

[MarkyM3]

2 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

I love the assumptions and the digs. They dpeak volumes.

Are Aisha's existence and the concept of kuffar assumptions and digs? I think not, they are factually correct. And I'm not seeing any other "peaceful" religion pushing global domination of their ideology in the way this does. Someone earlier mentioned over 48k separate Islamic-related incidents I believe. Speaks volumes. 

 

The NI conflict you were pushing was about the fate of the 6 counties and whether they rejoined Eire. Not about Catholicism v Protestantism. Using that as an example didn't work too well.

 

Palestinian conflict is again about land rights primarily, not about the merits of Judaism v Islam. 

 

[youreavinalaff]

14 minutes ago, MarkyM3 said:

The NI conflict you were pushing was about the fate of the 6 counties and whether they rejoined Eire. Not about Catholicism v Protestantism. Using that as an example didn't work too well.

It works perfectly well, when you actually look at the reasons why there was a divide. 

 

Religion was most certainly a reason.

 

You don't need me to point out your own digs.

Edited 10 hours ago by youreavinalaff

[Neeranam]

On 10/28/2024 at 4:13 PM, Smokey and the Bandit said:

Really??

We are told Islam is a religion of peace; anyone telling you that is just engaged in uninformed, wishful thinking or is deliberately trying to deceive you.

Islam is not a religion of peace at all; the perpetrators of terrorism are following the edicts clearly given in the Surahs (verses) that constitute the Quran, their holy book.

The word Islam means submission.

The Quran dictates repeatedly that its followers must convert you to Islam or kill you if you refuse to convert.

Much of the Quran speaks not about religion but only about how one must submit; it commands how one must live, dress, treat women and slaves, and practice jihad.

VERSES TELL THE TALE

The Quran is replete with Surahs directing its followers to violence.

Some examples follow:

Surah 3:151: "We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve (all non-Muslims) …"

Surah 2:191: "And kill them (non-Muslims) wherever you find them … kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers (non-Muslims)."

Surah 9:5: "Then kill the disbelievers (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush …"

 

 The Quran should be understood within its historical and cultural context. Interpretations vary widely among different communities and individuals. The vast majority of Muslims advocate for peace and coexistence, drawing on the teachings of the Quran to promote values such as mercy and compassion.

 

What you are saying would be like me saying Judaism is not a religion of peace as for what it says in their scripture. 

For example - 

2 Chronicles 15:12–13 — King James Version (KJV 1900)

12 And they entered into a covenant to seek the Lord God of their fathers with all their heart and with all their soul; 13 That whosoever would not seek the Lord God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.

 

[Neeranam]

On 10/29/2024 at 8:48 AM, radiochaser said:

Just because they live in America, does not make them Christian.   I seriously doubt that the high school attackers are going to or are members of any Christian church.   

Many high school students that participate in gang violence, are just that, members of gangs and some are already convicted criminals.    

 

"A Christian is someone who¹²³⁴:

• Believes in Jesus Christ and follows his teachings.
• Has a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.
• Trusts in Jesus Christ for salvation.
• Seeks to follow Him in obedience.
• Hopes in Jesus Christ alone to save them from their sins and make them right with God."

I wonder who said this?

 

Luke 19:27
“But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me.”

[Nick Carter icp]

9 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

 

 

What you are saying would be like me saying Judaism is not a religion of peace as for what it says in their scripture. 

For example - 

2 Chronicles 15:12–13 — King James Version (KJV 1900)..................................

 

 

 

 

   That verse is from the Bible , its NOT the Jews Scripture,   its Christian scripture .

   Its a Bible that was written in 1604

 

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/2-Chronicles-15-12_15-13/

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_James_Version

 

[Neeranam]

On 10/30/2024 at 1:28 AM, Scouse123 said:

The overall vast majority of international terrorist attacks are the direct work of Radical Muslims, Muslim fundamentalists, ISIS, ISAL,HAMAS, Hezbollah, and many more, and these vile acts are committed by those who profess allegiance to these organizations. 

 

The reasons we undergo such strict security at airports and in our daily lives is a direct result of the actions taken by these people.

ISIS, Hamas, and Hezbollah have committed acts of violence, but you don't understand the broader context in which these groups operate. Many of these organizations emerged in response to historical grievances, including colonialism, foreign intervention, and ongoing conflicts that have destabilized regions.

The formation of Hamas can be linked to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Hezbollah arose in 1982 in the struggle against Israeli incursions.

ISIS emerged in part due to the circumstances created by the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003.

 

The vast majority of Muslims worldwide do not support these groups and actively work against extremism. The portrayal of Muslims as monolithic or inherently violent is misleading. 

[Neeranam]

On 10/28/2024 at 4:13 PM, Smokey and the Bandit said:

Surah 3:151: "We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve (all non-Muslims) …"

Surah 2:191: "And kill them (non-Muslims) wherever you find them … kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers (non-Muslims)."

Surah 9:5: "Then kill the disbelievers (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush …"

I could similarly quote such  things from the Bible. 

 

Leviticus 24:16 "And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death." 

 

“Now go and attack the Amalekites and completely destroy everything they have. Do not spare them. Kill men and women, infants and nursing babies, oxen and sheep, camels and donkeys.” (1 Sam 15:3)

[Neeranam]

On 10/28/2024 at 9:16 PM, Scouse123 said:

Let's remember who kicked all this off in Israel recently, HAMAS and the murder of innocent Israeli civilians, hoping to develop it into a wider conflict and draw in other middle eastern nations.

 

What about Israel murdering innocent civilians in Gaza in May 2023, does that not count? 

 

At least 15 Palestinians, including three commanders of the militant group Islamic Jihad, have been killed in Israeli air strikes on the Gaza Strip.

Palestinian health officials said eight women and children were among the dead. Another 22 people were injured.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-65529490

[Nick Carter icp]

3 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

What about Israel murdering innocent civilians in Gaza in May 2023, does that not count? 

 

At least 15 Palestinians, including three commanders of the militant group Islamic Jihad, have been killed in Israeli air strikes on the Gaza Strip.

Palestinian health officials said eight women and children were among the dead. Another 22 people were injured.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-65529490

 

 

17 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

ISIS, Hamas, and Hezbollah have committed acts of violence, but you don't understand the broader context in which these groups operate. Many of these organizations emerged in response to historical grievances, including colonialism, foreign intervention, and ongoing conflicts that have destabilized regions.

The formation of Hamas can be linked to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Hezbollah arose in 1982 in the struggle against Israeli incursions.

ISIS emerged in part due to the circumstances created by the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003.

 

The vast majority of Muslims worldwide do not support these groups and actively work against extremism. The portrayal of Muslims as monolithic or inherently violent is misleading. 

 

   Put your post in a Check on the A.I detector .

Result :

 

100^%

of text is likely AI-generated

 

[BruceWayne]

On 10/29/2024 at 6:28 PM, Scouse123 said:

 

 

OK, split hairs all you want if you think it boosts your presence here.

 

I'll correct it.

 

The overall vast majority of international terrorist attacks are the direct work of Radical Muslims, Muslim fundamentalists, ISIS, ISAL,HAMAS, Hezbollah, and many more, and these vile acts are committed by those who profess allegiance to these organizations. 

 

The reasons we undergo such strict security at airports and in our daily lives is a direct result of the actions taken by these people.

 

 

Are they really though?

i.e. why do we blindly believe media stories demonising certain groups?

Which tribe famously owns most western media companies?

 

Lies in the news, truth in the movies...

 

 

[Scouse123]

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 

 

   Put your post in a Check on the A.I detector .

Result :

 

100^%

of text is likely AI-generated

 

 

 

 

I'll have to learn how to check text like you have done here, to find out the possibility if it has been AI generated.

[Evil Penevil]

22 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

I'll have to learn how to check text like you have done here, to find out the possibility if it has been AI generated.

 

Copy and paste the text  into the box on this site:  https://www.scribbr.com/ai-detector/

[Nick Carter icp]

49 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

 

 

 

I'll have to learn how to check text like you have done here, to find out the possibility if it has been AI generated.

 

   Do a web search for ...................*Is this I.A generated "

[Evil Penevil]

xxxxx

7 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

How many protestant IRA members do you know?

 

I know there were some, just as there were a few  Catholic unionists.  However, in both cases, it's a very small number and an obvious exception to the dominant trends.  What does that prove?   If you are telling us the vast majority of IRA members were Irish nationqlits who opposed British rule in Northern Ireland and the corresponding majority of Protestants were loyalists/unionists who wanted to remain in the U.K., that's never been disputed.

 

7 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

How many protestants do you know who would have willingly walked into a catholic area during the troubles?

Depends how you are using the word Protestant.  If you mean Ulster Protestants, very, very few, but Protestants from outside Northern ireland faced no more danger than anyone else.     Local Protestant unionists and loalists were the enemy, not all Protestants.

 

In cities all over the world, outsiders can become targets in some neighborhoods, while they are both safe and welcome in others.  The danger of a neighborhood depends on socio-economic factors that breed crime.

 

7 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

How about the Catholic groom in a wedding party who was gunned down for marrying a non Catholic?

 

You're saying the above were not motivated by religion? How strange.

 

I'm not familiar with the shooting incident, so I can't comment on whether it was motivated by relligion,  personal grudge or some other factor.  You keep ignoring the point that unlike Muslim terrorists,  the IRA didn't have a religious agenda.  It DID NOT act in the name of the Catholic Church, nor it ever seek to force the conversion of Protestants or give the Catholic Church and its members special status non-Catholics couldn't enjoy.