Arch Bisschop Carlo Maria VIGANO urges all American catholics to vote Trump

[Red Phoenix]

Powerful endorsement by Arch Bisschop Carlo Maria VIGANO urging all American catholics to vote Trump.  As usual from Vigano he doesn't mince his words...

Two Quotes from this Open Letter >

#1 - Joe Biden, the current “President,” is a servant of this subversive elite and widely blackmailable for the scandals and crimes committed by himself personally and also by his family, beginning with his son Hunter. His “Vice President,” Kamala Harris, is equally subservient to the same deep state. And the Democratic Party, to which they both belong, is the expression of the woke ideology that plagues all the parties of the global Left.

Candidate Donald J. Trump, while certainly taking some serious critical positions that a Catholic cannot agree with, represents for us, dear American faithful, in this specific historical moment, the only possible choice to counter the globalist coup that the woke Left is about to implement definitively, irreparably, and with incalculable damage for future generations.

#2 - The choice is between a conservative President, who is paying with his very life for his fight against the deep state, and an infernal monster who obeys Satan. For a Catholic, there can be no question: voting for Kamala Harris is morally inadmissible and constitutes a very grave sin. Nor is it morally possible to abstain, because in this war declaring oneself neutral means allying oneself with the enemy.

Source: https://exsurgedomine.it/241022-open-letter-eng/

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[JimHuaHin]

I am glad I left the Roman Catholic Church about 50 years ago, after 12 years of indoctrination.  The hypocrisy of many Church officials vis-a-vis biblical teachings were apparent to me even as a young teenager, and Arch Bishop Vigano clearly illustrates things have not changed

[owl sees all]

Good that he has spoken out.

 

The American system is indeed a gem. Look at the last 4 years! Wars! Assaults on freedoms! Cost of living! Covid mess! People flooding across the border! etc.

 

The people can get rid of their awful regime and vote for The Don. And he had better measure up, 'cause, if he don't, the people can vote him out. And perhaps the others** might get in. Oh look! A pig just flew by my window.

 

** Ross Perot - the best president America never had. Jill Stein waiting in the wings.

[Red Phoenix]

5 minutes ago, JimHuaHin said:

I am glad I left the Roman Catholic Church about 50 years ago, after 12 years of indoctrination.  The hypocrisy of many Church officials vis-a-vis biblical teachings were apparent to me even as a young teenager, and Arch Bishop Vigano clearly illustrates things have not changed

Did you know that Arch Bishop Vigano openly calls out Pope Francis as being the Satan in disguise for his stances that betray all morality of christianity?  Read some of his interviews and you will be amazed that a man of his stature and intelligence is saying things that even hinting to would have him burned at the stake some centuries back.  Vigano represents a return to true christianity and is not afraid to openly share his views.

By the way I am not a catholic, nor belong to any other organized religion, but I admire the gusto of that very brave man. 

[Talon]

1 hour ago, Red Phoenix said:

Did you know that Arch Bishop Vigano openly calls out Pope Francis as being the Satan in disguise for his stances that betray all morality of christianity?  Read some of his interviews and you will be amazed that a man of his stature and intelligence is saying things that even hinting to would have him burned at the stake some centuries back.  Vigano represents a return to true christianity and is not afraid to openly share his views.

By the way I am not a catholic, nor belong to any other organized religion, but I admire the gusto of that very brave man. 

 

Archbishop Vigano continues to put it all on the line.

[herfiehandbag]

3 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

Powerful endorsement by Arch Bisschop Carlo Maria VIGANO urging all American catholics to vote Trump.  As usual from Vigano he doesn't mince his words...

Two Quotes from this Open Letter >

#1 - Joe Biden, the current “President,” is a servant of this subversive elite and widely blackmailable for the scandals and crimes committed by himself personally and also by his family, beginning with his son Hunter. His “Vice President,” Kamala Harris, is equally subservient to the same deep state. And the Democratic Party, to which they both belong, is the expression of the woke ideology that plagues all the parties of the global Left.

Candidate Donald J. Trump, while certainly taking some serious critical positions that a Catholic cannot agree with, represents for us, dear American faithful, in this specific historical moment, the only possible choice to counter the globalist coup that the woke Left is about to implement definitively, irreparably, and with incalculable damage for future generations.

#2 - The choice is between a conservative President, who is paying with his very life for his fight against the deep state, and an infernal monster who obeys Satan. For a Catholic, there can be no question: voting for Kamala Harris is morally inadmissible and constitutes a very grave sin. Nor is it morally possible to abstain, because in this war declaring oneself neutral means allying oneself with the enemy.

Source: https://exsurgedomine.it/241022-open-letter-eng/

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Declaring people's voting intentions as a grave sin is way beyond an ex Archbishops remit. He was excommunicated - somehow that got missed from the OP. He is, as a private individual: Elon Musk, Taylor Swift ( who looks better in a frock by the way) to name but two other prominent persons, entitled to urge people to vote in a particular way. That is as far as it goes.

 

The doctrine of ecclesiastical infalibity is confined to The Pope, and is then only applicable to matters of theology, not politics. He (the Pope) is guided by The Holy Spirit, unlike Archbishop Vigano, who appears to be guided by the Republican Party. He (Vigano) should concern himself with the souls of the faithful, not their politics, but that was always his problem; I speak as a Catholic, of six decades standing (some might jibe kneeling).

 

Incidentally Vigano (an Italian) was excommunicated for his pronouncements against and defiance of the Pope, formenting schism. So he is an ex Archbishop, found guilty of crimes by the Church, just as Trump is an ex President, found guilty of crimes by the courts; anyone see a pattern?

Edited October 28 by herfiehandbag

[Red Phoenix]

45 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

The doctrine of ecclesiastical infalibity is confined to The Pope, and is then only applicable to matters of theology, not politics. He (the Pope) is guided by The Holy Spirit,

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The Pope infallible and guided by the Holy Spirit?

A brief history sketching the "Good Deeds" of these self-declared holy men over the last 2 millenia, paints quite a different picture...  

Edited October 28 by Red Phoenix

[Captain Monday]

Biden’s “scandals and crimes” 🤣

Pfft.

A deranged Priest spewing rubbish.  No wonder he was excommunicated

Quoted from a dodgy source. 

[transam]

Does anyone actually take any notice of these so-called religious blokes nowadays, of course excluding the Allah folk..........?   🤔

[herfiehandbag]

22 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

The Pope infallible and guided by the Holy Spirit?

A brief history sketching the "Good Deeds" of these self-declared holy men over the last 2 millenia, paints quite a different picture...  

There is a certain logical impasse here.

 

You post, it seems, approving of Vigano "ruling" that voting for Harris is a grave sin.

 

Subsequently you post deriding "these self declared holy men"; ignoring the fact that Papal Infalibity is restricted to theology, and does not apply to "matters of man".

 

So which is it, logically it cannot be both?

Edited October 29 by herfiehandbag

[herfiehandbag]

21 hours ago, Captain Monday said:

Biden’s “scandals and crimes” 🤣

Pfft.

A deranged Priest spewing rubbish.  No wonder he was excommunicated

Quoted from a dodgy source. 

 

Vigano's excommunication was, in essence, because as a member of the conservative wing of the Catholic Higherarchy, a Vatican insider, politician and diplomat who had never worked as a Parish Priest or Diocesan Bishop, he was oposed to Pope Francis's election. He saw, one might consider, the election of a South American Jesuit, with extensive pastoral experience amongst the poor of urban Argentina, and one who had stood up to their 1980s Junta, as a dilution or pollution of the "clerical genes" of a higherarchy, totally European (in fact Italian) which should rule over the Vatican.

 

Pope Francis, recognising his hostility, didn't make him a Cardinal (Vigano fully expected, as a leading conservative to be made one) and retired him. Vigano's subsequent reaction and antics resulted in his excommunication.

 

All a bit MAGA really!

[herfiehandbag]

21 hours ago, transam said:

Does anyone actually take any notice of these so-called religious blokes nowadays, of course excluding the Allah folk..........?   🤔

Well there are some 139 billion baptized Catholics worldwide, and whilst it would be fair to say that not all of them hang on their every word, or even agree with everything said, they certainly are listened to.

[transam]

1 hour ago, herfiehandbag said:

Well there are some 139 billion baptized Catholics worldwide, and whilst it would be fair to say that not all of them hang on their every word, or even agree with everything said, they certainly are listened to.

I, too, was christened/Baptised, but I had no say in the matter at the time.....😉