Suspect in Southport Murders Charged with Terror Offences and Producing Ricin

[JonnyF]

5 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

He absolutely will not hear a word said against them, i find it totally bizarre and I struggle to find an explanation.  Although he does get very defensive when asked about his own nationality and beliefs

 

Or gender. 

 

But I won't comment on that, because after "they" posted about entering a women's bicycle race I referred to "them" as "she" and was threatened with a ban 😆.

 

That was in the bad old days though...

[mokwit]

48 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s a question that was consistent with the available information at the time of asking.

The information wasn't available because it was deliberately withheld.

[Social Media]

A way off topic inflammatory and antisemitic post on Jews has been removed @MalcolmB along with a post bringing up JImmy Saville!

 

The topic here is 

 

Suspect in Southport Murders Charged with Terror Offences and Producing Ricin

[James105]

28 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No my post that James quoted was not misinformation, at the time I posted it was correct.

 

Right now the connection to Islamic terrorism is possession of terrorist material from an Islamist terrorist group.

 

No motivation has been given.

 

So let’s stick with the information we have.

 

 

 

Your post was never correct, it was just a regurgitation of the misinformation spread by the police and Starmer.   I rightly said that it had the hallmarks of Islamic terror and information was being suppressed.  What other culture/religion kills kids in this way?  It's not the real or imagined far right is it?

 

The mostly peaceful protests following the terror attack in Southport could have been quelled very easily if Starmer had told the truth from the beginning, and promised to address the very real problem of Islamic terror.   This monster came from a 2% Islamic country to a 6.7% islamic country and was radicalised into killing little innocent girls.   He was given every opportunity to live a normal life even appearing in Dr Who, yet the Islamic problem is so severe in the UK now even at that percentage he was able to be Islamised.     

 

Starmer should face consequences here.   So should the home secretary.  Everyone in jail for the mostly peaceful protests should immediately have their sentences reviewed.  

[Bday Prang]

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Or gender. 

 

But I won't comment on that, because after "they" posted about entering a women's bicycle race I referred to "them" as "she" and was threatened with a ban 😆.

 

That was in the bad old days though...

I never considered "gender"  good point .   Anyway due to the essence of this thread I doubt we will hear much from him today, he has already exhausted the "mis information" attempt at deflection,  There is little left for him to say on this matter

[Bday Prang]

If he was in possession of ricin then that is a very serious development, what else was he planning ?  Three deaths would be nothing in comparison to the consequences of using that poison.    This justs gets worse and worse

How many more are there like him in the UK ?  I would suggests hundreds that are known to the police, and thousands that are flying under the radar

 What more evidence do we need that "islamophobia" is in fact a genuine concern and NOT another word for racism.    Could things possibly be any clearer?     

[mokwit]

1 minute ago, Bday Prang said:

How many more are there like him in the UK ?  I would suggests hundreds that are known to the police, and thousands that are flying under the radar

You forgot the ones probably known to their fellow "peaceful" worshipers.

[Bday Prang]

1 minute ago, mokwit said:

You forgot the ones probably known to their fellow "peaceful" worshipers.

indeed, I am sure there are many "networks" along with many social media groups, not to mention the congregations at most if not all mosques.  What do they talk about at "friday prayers"  it certainly isn't integration or tolerance

[JonnyF]

6 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

How many more are there like him in the UK ?

 

Plenty.

 

I'm sure the police are aware of a lot of them, but like the Rotheram rape gangs refuse to act for fear of being labelled racist.

 

What a time to be alive!

[Bday Prang]

And as usual , apart from the well worn platitudes from the Muslim council of Britain etc,  A very low key condemnation of this incident from the followers of the religion of peace.  One really would expect them to be a little more vocal. (assuming they don't support these acts of course)

Meanwhile calls for reparations for things that happened 100s of years ago get louder and louder,  maybe we should start to add up the costs of these acts of terror and start our own claims for compensation.  

 

[Bday Prang]

5 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

What a time to be alive!

Indeed, to see it all happening in front of our eyes is one thing , but to see the authorities  inability or reluctance to deal with it effectively is frightening.   Don't even get me started on the apologists who are effectively enabling it all 

[JonnyF]

1 hour ago, Bday Prang said:

And as usual , apart from the well worn platitudes from the Muslim council of Britain etc,  A very low key condemnation of this incident from the followers of the religion of peace.  One really would expect them to be a little more vocal. (assuming they don't support these acts of course)

Meanwhile calls for reparations for things that happened 100s of years ago get louder and louder,  maybe we should start to add up the costs of these acts of terror and start our own claims for compensation.  

 

 

Clearly reparations are a "one way" grift, sorry I mean street.

[James105]

1 hour ago, Bday Prang said:

If he was in possession of ricin then that is a very serious development, what else was he planning ?  Three deaths would be nothing in comparison to the consequences of using that poison.    This justs gets worse and worse

How many more are there like him in the UK ?  I would suggests hundreds that are known to the police, and thousands that are flying under the radar

 What more evidence do we need that "islamophobia" is in fact a genuine concern and NOT another word for racism.    Could things possibly be any clearer?     

 

It's also troubling that this ricin development has only just been revealed.   When Novichok was discovered in Salisbury the town was immediately shut down and decontaminated.   What action was taken here?   Were the neighbours informed and evacuated following this discovery or was their safety compromised to prevent the truth from coming out?  

 

Starmer and whoever the home secretary is should be resigning and facing the consequences of their lies to the public and apologising to the likes of Farage who correctly raised concerns about important information being withheld.

[Bday Prang]

4 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Clearly reparations are a "one way" grift, sorry I mean street.

I still haven't worked out who stands to benefit personally from all these reparations. That would explain a lot.

I'm pretty sure there are many in the UK who are expecting a cash payout similar to the 10,000 baht bribe scheme recently proposed over here.    I expect a lot of people will now be identifying as black.  I certainly intend to next time I return there. might as well go the whole hog and identify as trans too. In preparation for when they get a free hand out 

[Bday Prang]

1 minute ago, James105 said:

 

It's also troubling that this ricin development has only just been revealed.   When Novichok was discovered in Salisbury the town was immediately shut down and decontaminated.   What action was taken here?   Were the neighbours informed and evacuated following this discovery or was their safety compromised to prevent the truth from coming out?  

 

Starmer and whoever the home secretary is should be resigning and facing the consequences of their lies to the public and apologising to the likes of Farage who correctly raised concerns about important information being withheld.

Excellent post and probably one of the most salient points raised in this thread.    I am actually considering passing it on to GB news as I feel it is a very important issue, and there is no way the BBC will be raising it.

It actually rates as a genuine threat to national security as serious as any other if not more so

[JonnyF]

2 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

I still haven't worked out who stands to benefit personally from all these reparations. That would explain a lot.

 

Minorities and pearl clutching white middle class liberals who need to find something, anything, to feel good about themselves. 

 

2 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

I'm pretty sure there are many in the UK who are expecting a cash payout similar to the 10,000 baht bribe scheme recently proposed over here.    I expect a lot of people will now be identifying as black.  I certainly intend to next time I return there. might as well go the whole hog and identify as trans too. In preparation for when they get a free hand out 

 

I'm currently identifying as a black, lesbian, Muslim trans woman with one leg and dwarfism.

 

Gotta cover all the bases. 

[Bday Prang]

1 hour ago, James105 said:

Everyone in jail for the mostly peaceful protests should immediately have their sentences reviewed.  

and upon their release they can be replaced by Starmer and the other idiots

[Bday Prang]

3 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

I'm currently identifying as a black, lesbian, Muslim trans woman with one leg and dwarfism.

 

Gotta cover all the bases. 

Don't forget learning difficulties and mental health issues, and a bit of historical abuse too.  All necessary for a water tight case

[James105]

The troubling revelations continue.   Why is Starmer shutting down the press?   The man is clearly a tyrant and he needs to be removed from his post.  He simply cannot continue.   

 

 

[Bday Prang]

16 minutes ago, James105 said:

The troubling revelations continue.   Why is Starmer shutting down the press?   The man is clearly a tyrant and he needs to be removed from his post.  He simply cannot continue.   

 

 

All very interesting and more than a little concerning.  Its all well and good Jenrick commenting on this and as expected capitalising on the failures of Starmer and his cronies, but lets not forget he and his cronies were in power for 14 years and as such are pretty much equally responsible for a lot of the issues we have .    The Tories are obviously a better prospect than Labour , but we need a complete change as Starmer keeps bleating.  However the change we need will not be provided by him either, 

      Like it or not the only credible alternative now is Reform. We need Farage more than ever now 

 

[John Drake]

So is this then the situation? Starmer's government knew the truth and not only covered it up but lied so he could tag his opposition with a charge of "misinformation" and lock up his political opponents? If so, this is Stalin level political terrorism.

[metisdead]

Off topic posts and the replies have been removed.

[brewsterbudgen]

As usual, it's all political posturing and point scoring, and the victims and their families are ignored. Sad.

[JonnyF]

31 minutes ago, John Drake said:

So is this then the situation? Starmer's government knew the truth and not only covered it up but lied so he could tag his opposition with a charge of "misinformation" and lock up his political opponents? If so, this is Stalin level political terrorism.

 

It's absolutely shocking. I really don't know how he can survive this politically. Surely there are some people within the Labour Party with an ounce of decency to start the process to remove him? 

 

Johnson was removed for Partygate for goodness sake. This is several levels beyond that. That's without the whole scandal over hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of gifts. The freezing of pensioners etc. And all of it within a few months. Unreal.  

[Chomper Higgot]

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

No it was not correct.

 

You simply reposted/spread someone else's lies. 

Then you’ll have no problem providing the factual information available at the time that contradicted my post.

[JonnyF]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Then you’ll have no problem providing the factual information available at the time that contradicted my post.

 

The onus was on you to confirm the truth before you started spreading/repeating the lies. 

[brewsterbudgen]

39 minutes ago, John Drake said:

So is this then the situation? Starmer's government knew the truth and not only covered it up but lied so he could tag his opposition with a charge of "misinformation" and lock up his political opponents? If so, this is Stalin level political terrorism.

No, that is not the situation.  

[Bday Prang]

39 minutes ago, John Drake said:

So is this then the situation? Starmer's government knew the truth and not only covered it up but lied so he could tag his opposition with a charge of "misinformation" and lock up his political opponents? If so, this is Stalin level political terrorism.

That's pretty good summary 

[proton]

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No my post that James quoted was not misinformation, at the time I posted it was correct.

 

Right now the connection to Islamic terrorism is possession of terrorist material from an Islamist terrorist group.

 

No motivation has been given.

 

So let’s stick with the information we have.

 

 

 

No motivation? making lethal poison , downloading a terrorist manual and slaughtering the kuffar, are you serious? It's called jihad, inspired by the hate in the Quran and the violent example of the fake Prophet who said 'I was victorious by terror'  What do you expect a written admission? Coming up will be the usual excuses of mental issues and not a real muslim.

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, JonnyF said:

 

The onus was on you to confirm the truth before you started spreading/repeating the lies. 

Again what lies did I spread.

 

Let’s see you provide facts available at the time that contradicted my posts.