Popular Post Social Media Posted October 30 Popular Post Posted October 30 The number of migrants illegally crossing into the United States under Vice President Kamala Harris may be substantially higher than official figures indicate, according to new findings. The Telegraph reports that illegal crossings are estimated to be 25 percent higher than public records suggest when accounting for so-called "gotaways"—migrants who evade detection. This brings the total to nearly nine million people who have crossed the U.S. border since Harris assumed office and was tasked with addressing the "root causes" of illegal immigration from Central America. Critics argue the White House has understated the scale of illegal crossings, accusing the administration of "laundering" figures to obscure its border security record. According to Simon Hankinson, an immigration research fellow at the Heritage Foundation, "I think it is a deliberate obfuscation. They have essentially laundered illegal immigration.” Monthly data released by U.S. Customs and Border Protection accounts for only those migrants intercepted, totaling approximately 7.15 million since President Joe Biden and Harris took office. However, a Freedom of Information request by The Telegraph reveals an estimated 1.8 million gotaways have crossed the border undetected from February 2021 through September 2024. Due to their evasion of Border Patrol, the precise paths of these individuals remain largely unknown. The head of Border Patrol, Jason Owens, voiced concerns in February over the number of gotaways, describing the situation as a "national security threat." Reflecting on the unknowns surrounding these individuals, Owens questioned, “What do they have to hide? What are they bringing in? What is their intent? Where are they coming from? We simply don’t know the answers to those questions.” While the issue of migrant encounters versus gotaways isn’t unique to the Biden administration, Hankinson suggests that “gotaways, almost by definition, are going to be more likely to have criminal records and to be undesirable than people who show up and surrender to the border force.” Some 80 percent of those apprehended between 2021 and 2023 were either deported or immediately turned back, a rate double that of the early 2000s under George W. Bush. Harris has recently pledged to enhance border security, stating that if she wins the presidency in November, she would ensure migrants crossing illegally are barred from entry. However, critics on the Republican side contend that Harris has failed in her role as "border tsar," struggling to address the issue adequately. Polls indicate immigration remains a top priority for voters, with Trump generally viewed as more capable in managing it. Notably, the surge in gotaways under the previous administration’s use of Title 42 expulsions during the COVID-19 pandemic may have contributed to the rising figures. Title 42 allowed for the rapid expulsion of migrants, often without a hearing, which some experts argue inadvertently encouraged migrants to attempt crossings repeatedly. David J. Bier, an immigration analyst at the Cato Institute, referred to the practice as "self-defeating," explaining, “At the same time, you’re giving them no reason to turn themselves in to the Border Patrol because you’re saying you can’t apply for asylum.” The current administration’s cessation of Title 42 in May 2023 saw a reduction in gotaways, dropping from 56,003 in May to 30,116 the following month. This trend continued, with gotaway numbers through September 2024 reported to be less than half of those from the same period in the prior year. Victor Manjarrez, a former Border Patrol chief for Arizona, pointed out that crossing the U.S.-Mexico border remains challenging due to the vast deserts and limited surveillance, which people-smuggling gangs exploit. Ultimately, Customs and Border Protection estimates its gotaway figures using an array of surveillance methods, including CCTV, motion sensors, aerial surveillance, and tracking disturbances along the border. Based on a report by the Daily Telegraph 2024-10-31 1 1 2
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted October 30 Popular Post Posted October 30 Entirely expected, as they must have known that the public were against illegals entering. Amazing that millions want to elect a person that tries to hide the truth from them. 1 1 1 3 3 9
Popular Post Talon Posted October 30 Popular Post Posted October 30 The Biden/Harris Regime has been skewing economic data that has had to be revised DOWNWARD in almost every month in their Department of Labor. It is no surprise that we now find that illegal alien migration has also been skewed to their benefit over the course of their time in office. Transparency. 1 1 1 2 6
Luuk Chaai Posted October 30 Posted October 30 True Extent of Migrant Crossings Under Vice President Harris Exposed Should be True Intent Skew Census calculations so they can get more congressional representaion .. add more Dem voters to the rolls ... ruin the working middle class ... increase violence so they can inplement more control we can keep this up all day 2 1
Popular Post Tug Posted October 30 Popular Post Posted October 30 Lots of flaws in this skewed article first off there is NO border czar that’s a made up term.its to bad DONALD JHON TRUMP single handedly killed the border bill that would have (and will once trumps put away) gone a very long way in addressing this problem. 2 4 3 2 3 2
mdr224 Posted October 30 Posted October 30 Alot of truth coming out right before election day. The reality is unsettling 1 1
Popular Post Cryingdick Posted October 30 Popular Post Posted October 30 Who would have thought letting over 10 million people in unvetted, owing the cartel their passage, competing for real estate and social services could backfire? 2 1 3
Popular Post thesetat2013 Posted October 30 Popular Post Posted October 30 2 hours ago, Social Media said: Critics argue the White House has understated the scale of illegal crossings, accusing the administration of "laundering" figures to obscure its border security record. According to Simon Hankinson, an immigration research fellow at the Heritage Foundation, "I think it is a deliberate obfuscation. They have essentially laundered illegal immigration.” So basically Harris and the Dems are downplaying the actual numbers of border crossings to make them look better on their stance for this topic. Harris was very outspoken with her claims that entries into the US were down by 50%. All lies to make the people think she had actually begun to do her job now after 3 years of doing nothing. 21 minutes ago, Tug said: Lots of flaws in this skewed article first off there is NO border czar that’s a made up term.its to bad DONALD JHON TRUMP single handedly killed the border bill that would have (and will once trumps put away) gone a very long way in addressing this problem. Oh please, Everything you say is Trumps fault. The Dems and Biden/Harris caused this problem plain and simple. Biden took office and like a dictator removed the laws Trump had placed for stopping the illegals. Cut funding immediately after Biden took office. Changed laws to allow illegals more freedom to enter the US without being documented, And then invited them all to come. Within a month of Biden taking office there were huge marches to the US for illegals to enter. Why do you insist to blame everything on Trump even though the Dems have controlled this for the last 3.5 years? 1 2 2 2 5
Popular Post impulse Posted October 30 Popular Post Posted October 30 More than 200 retired Department of Homeland Security (DHS) officials signed onto an open letter endorsing former President Donald Trump, arguing he’s the only candidate who will enforce border security. https://www.bpchiefscott.com/speaking-the-truth-with-facts-and-evidence https://dailycaller.com/2024/10/30/retired-nat-sec-officials-endorse-donald-trump/ 1 1 1 2
Popular Post thesetat2013 Posted October 30 Popular Post Posted October 30 20 minutes ago, mdr224 said: Alot of truth coming out right before election day. The reality is unsettling The reality has been there for years. Border Patrol agents informing the government and the people. Individual states rallying to make their own laws about stopping the influx of illegals only to be stopped by the Biden/Harris admin. Only the lies the Dems have been forging about the realities of this are coming to light now. And yes, it is very unsettling. 1 1 2
bunnydrops Posted October 30 Posted October 30 I still don't understand why there wasn't all the drama back when G Bush was president. 1 1
Popular Post Tug Posted October 31 Popular Post Posted October 31 1 hour ago, thesetat2013 said: So basically Harris and the Dems are downplaying the actual numbers of border crossings to make them look better on their stance for this topic. Harris was very outspoken with her claims that entries into the US were down by 50%. All lies to make the people think she had actually begun to do her job now after 3 years of doing nothing. Oh please, Everything you say is Trumps fault. The Dems and Biden/Harris caused this problem plain and simple. Biden took office and like a dictator removed the laws Trump had placed for stopping the illegals. Cut funding immediately after Biden took office. Changed laws to allow illegals more freedom to enter the US without being documented, And then invited them all to come. Within a month of Biden taking office there were huge marches to the US for illegals to enter. Why do you insist to blame everything on Trump even though the Dems have controlled this for the last 3.5 years? No laws were removed executive orders were nullified the only law that was removed was the BIPARTISAN BORDER BILL trump tanked it so he has something to try and bs the gullible .no more no less when trump is finally put away we will get back to dealing with our problems. 2 2 2 1
Tug Posted October 31 Posted October 31 (edited) 53 minutes ago, bunnydrops said: I still don't understand why there wasn't all the drama back when G Bush was president. There was lots of taking back then unfortunately the can was kicked down the road Obama tryed and the republicans killed it Biden tryed trump killed it Edited October 31 by Tug 1 2 1 1
Popular Post JonnyF Posted October 31 Popular Post Posted October 31 If anyone has any remaining doubts about the incompetence of Harris, this tells you everything. How anyone thinks she is capable of running a country is beyond me. It takes more than DEI box ticking and an unhinged cackle. 1 1 1 3
Popular Post Smokey and the Bandit Posted October 31 Popular Post Posted October 31 9 minutes ago, JonnyF said: If anyone has any remaining doubts about the incompetence of Harris, this tells you everything. How anyone thinks she is capable of running a country is beyond me. It takes more than DEI box ticking and an unhinged cackle. Exactly, lets hope the American voters make the right decision and get Trump back in! 1 1 1 4
Popular Post Gsxrnz Posted October 31 Popular Post Posted October 31 Barn door/horse bolted. I wonder if Russia and China have established a secret military foothold in the US via the leaky non-existent southern border? Actually, I don't really wonder... 1 4
Popular Post Hawaiian Posted October 31 Popular Post Posted October 31 2 hours ago, Tug said: Lots of flaws in this skewed article first off there is NO border czar that’s a made up term.its to bad DONALD JHON TRUMP single handedly killed the border bill that would have (and will once trumps put away) gone a very long way in addressing this problem. Skewed article? Just like you providing skewed information. Since when can someone be responsible for Congress not passing a bill who is not a member of said Congress? Why didn't Congress pass the bill on your say so? Besides many of the illegals came in before the bill was introduced. Besides why keep passing new laws when the present ones are not being enforced? 1 3
Popular Post WDSmart Posted October 31 Popular Post Posted October 31 I am a Harris supporter, I've already voted, and illegal immigration is not a big deal for me. Having said all that, I'll just note that these are just estimates and not based on any actual counts. And, most of all, during this period, Harris was VICE President, not President, so although she could be assumed to have backed Biden's strategic approach to issues, she should not be judged on Biden's tactical approach to any particular issue. 2 3
Popular Post NickyLouie Posted October 31 Popular Post Posted October 31 Just now, WDSmart said: I am a Harris supporter, I've already voted, and illegal immigration is not a big deal for me. Having said all that, I'll just note that these are just estimates and not based on any actual counts. And, most of all, during this period, Harris was VICE President, not President, so although she could be assumed to have backed Biden's strategic approach to issues, she should not be judged on Biden's tactical approach to any particular issue. She was the border czar, you're as delusional as every other Harris voter. Buh Bye ..... 1 2 2 3
Popular Post Thingamabob Posted October 31 Popular Post Posted October 31 20 minutes ago, WDSmart said: I am a Harris supporter, I've already voted, and illegal immigration is not a big deal for me. Having said all that, I'll just note that these are just estimates and not based on any actual counts. And, most of all, during this period, Harris was VICE President, not President, so although she could be assumed to have backed Biden's strategic approach to issues, she should not be judged on Biden's tactical approach to any particular issue. It has always been reported that Harris was given the responsibility for border control. 1 2 5
Popular Post WDSmart Posted October 31 Popular Post Posted October 31 20 minutes ago, NickyLouie said: She was the border czar, you're as delusional as every other Harris voter. Buh Bye ..... Harris was not the "border czar." That's just another lie Trump has told you, so, of course, you believe it. Harris was VICE PRESIDENT. She did not make the strategic decisions concerning anything. Her duty to the president was to inform him, carry out his tactical solutions, and, of course, be there to fill in for him if he became unable to continue to serve. 1 3
WDSmart Posted October 31 Posted October 31 2 minutes ago, Thingamabob said: It has always been reported that Harris was given the responsibility for border control. Harris was not the "border czar." That's just another lie Trump has told you, so, of course, you believe it. Harris was VICE PRESIDENT. She did not make the strategic decisions concerning anything. Her duty to the president was to inform him, carry out his tactical solutions, and, of course, be there to fill in for him if he became unable to continue to serve. 1 1
Popular Post NickyLouie Posted October 31 Popular Post Posted October 31 Just now, WDSmart said: Harris was not the "border czar." That's just another lie Trump has told you, so, of course, you believe it. Harris was VICE PRESIDENT. She did not make the strategic decisions concerning anything. Her duty to the president was to inform him, carry out his tactical solutions, and, of course, be there to fill in for him if he became unable to continue to serve. And now you disappear just like Kamala after she loses BOOM ! Insta Blocked ... 2 2 1
renaissanc Posted October 31 Posted October 31 The real number is probably millions more than this. Let's not forget the nighttime flights of immigrants, for example. 1 1 1
Popular Post renaissanc Posted October 31 Popular Post Posted October 31 51 minutes ago, WDSmart said: Harris was not the "border czar." That's just another lie Trump has told you, so, of course, you believe it. Harris was VICE PRESIDENT. She did not make the strategic decisions concerning anything. Her duty to the president was to inform him, carry out his tactical solutions, and, of course, be there to fill in for him if he became unable to continue to serve. Karime Jean-Pierre, you know this isn't true. She was put in charge of the border. Your binder needs changing. 2 1 2
Popular Post renaissanc Posted October 31 Popular Post Posted October 31 (edited) Kamala voters are a new phenomenon. Tens of millions of Americans are voting for more human trafficking of women and children for cheap labour, child abuse, and prostitution and to support the Mexican cartels ... as well as for Socialism, more crime, a dying economy, dwindling resources for Americans, the packing of the Supreme Court, and basically for the end of the current election system. Etc. Let's not forget that the warmongers will bring about WW3. But if that's what they want, that's their choice. I forgot to include ... censorship. Don't dare criticise the regime or else! Edited October 31 by renaissanc 1 4 3
thesetat2013 Posted October 31 Posted October 31 3 hours ago, Tug said: No laws were removed executive orders were nullified the only law that was removed was the BIPARTISAN BORDER BILL trump tanked it so he has something to try and bs the gullible .no more no less when trump is finally put away we will get back to dealing with our problems. Or perhaps... the Dems are saying this so they can place blame on Trump for their own decisions trying to stop what Trump had started so the influx of illegals is halted. Perhaps you only want to believe the lies the Dems say as well. 1
bunnydrops Posted October 31 Posted October 31 2 hours ago, NickyLouie said: She was the border czar, you're as delusional as every other Harris voter. Buh Bye ..... Delusional? https://apnews.com/general-news-3400f56255e000547d1ca3ce1aa6b8e9 https://www.vox.com/politics/361635/kamala-harris-border-czar-immigration-mexico-guatemala-rnc https://www.reuters.com/world/us/republicans-call-harris-failed-border-czar-truth-is-more-complicated-2024-07-30/
AgMech Cowboy Posted October 31 Posted October 31 7 hours ago, Tug said: Lots of flaws in this skewed article first off there is NO border czar that’s a made up term.its to bad DONALD JHON TRUMP single handedly killed the border bill that would have (and will once trumps put away) gone a very long way in addressing this problem. It was a bad 'bill'. I can guarantee you that Texas would have never agreed to it and would have challenged it in court. Did you actually read it? I only read a few excerpts and although there were some good provisions, the rest of it was really bad. 1 1
thaipo7 Posted October 31 Posted October 31 10 hours ago, Tug said: Lots of flaws in this skewed article first off there is NO border czar that’s a made up term.its to bad DONALD JHON TRUMP single handedly killed the border bill that would have (and will once trumps put away) gone a very long way in addressing this problem. Of course there was NO border czar in your mind. She was the czar. Who else but Communist use the tern CZAR? Obama did. Plus he would not even tell the public what their salaries were. If you could read and comprehend, you would see that EIGHT (8), that is 8 Democrats sided with the Republicans to kill the bill. It is really hard to read your remarks on everything Trump. Have not found one remark that would pass the 'fake' meaning. 1
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