British Man Found Shirtless and Agitated on Pattaya Roadside

[BritManToo]

  On 10/31/2024 at 9:18 AM, SingAPorn said:

Call the Brit embassy on the spot, have them pick up the junkie and deported next day on their expense.

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That's a bit harsh, the guy might have had a stroke/heart attack/heatstroke or some other medical emergency while out jogging. There's no indication of any criminal activity taking place.

[fredwiggy]

  On 11/1/2024 at 6:53 AM, NoshowJones said:

I wonder why he was afraid of the police.

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A bad past history with them?

[NativeBob]

  On 11/1/2024 at 7:01 AM, fredwiggy said:

A bad past history with them?

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1994 I met German beggar at Kao Sarn Rd. Few weeks before that he was decent tourist, had an argument with policemen, they beat the sh*t out of him near the river but he survived. Yet his mind didn't recover and he became a "village idiot".

[scubascuba3]

  On 11/1/2024 at 4:07 AM, Bday Prang said:

jeez the guy has either suffered some sort of breakdown, had his drink spiked, or been beaten up .  Now , according to many on here he must automatically have some sort if international criminal record which should have barred him from travelling

This forum and some of those who frequent it is becoming a joke

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Have you got a criminal record? many are worried they start deporting those

[fredwiggy]

  On 11/1/2024 at 8:34 AM, scubascuba3 said:

Have you got a criminal record? many are worried they start deporting those

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How do you know many are worried? It sounds like yet another assumption. You know. Someone tells someone something and it's instantly a fact because they for some reason trust this person's opinion about others. Are you asking him if he has a criminal record to put anxiety in him, thinking he might have one and would be worried?

[BangkokReady]

  On 10/31/2024 at 6:22 AM, NativeBob said:

Thailand urgently needs "tourist scavengers" to locate and isolate scum like this. At Ratchada 4 almost every second day some "agitated foreigner" 

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You want rid of tourists who come to Thailand to get wasted on drugs and alcohol?  Do you think Thailand can survive that kind of financial hit?

[WDSmart]

iIf it was about 4:30 a.m., this sounds like normal activity for Pattaya.

[Liverpool Lou]

  On 11/1/2024 at 1:20 AM, shackleton said:

Seems to be a few people pre judging this guy when they don't know his circumstances 

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Par for the AN course.

[Gottfrid]

  On 11/1/2024 at 4:58 AM, Keeps said:

Currently, we do not know why he was found in this state. Was it of his own making? Was he spiked? Was he attacked? We don't know.

 

Does this make him better or worse than your fellow countrymen who were recently arrested and accused of fraud but had most certainly committed a crime by overstaying their visas? They are criminals regardless of whether the fraud charges are proven.

 

These Swedes....deport them all I say - nothing but criminals. 555

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Ops! You don´t read much news, do you?

First it goes 200 Brits on 1 Swede if we read the news in Thailand, which you apparently didn´t.

After, I was also one of the first posting about the Swedes and their bad behavior, even as I am a Swede, I can se when my countrymen are bad. Also something you seem to have problem with, as I assume you are Brit judging out of the reaction and protective B.S.

So, you better start counting. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5........67, 68, 69.........129, 130, 131........185, 186, 187.......200 Brits.    PING!

........................................................................................................1.................................................................... Swede.

[Bday Prang]

  On 11/1/2024 at 8:34 AM, scubascuba3 said:

Have you got a criminal record? many are worried they start deporting those

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do i have a criminal record ?  yes      Am I concerned ?   not in the slightest.     Next

[Bday Prang]

  On 11/1/2024 at 10:11 AM, fredwiggy said:

How do you know many are worried? It sounds like yet another assumption. You know. Someone tells someone something and it's instantly a fact because they for some reason trust this person's opinion about others. Are you asking him if he has a criminal record to put anxiety in him, thinking he might have one and would be worried?

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Of course its just an assumption, and he will have to try a lot harder than that to make me anxious. Nothing more ridiculous than foreigners calling for other foreigners to be deported,  its laughable

[sanabavy IV]

a Brit abroad shows who he really is

[Stargeezr]

Now here is a non muscular guy.  I like the strange humor of

the Brits, as well enjoy drinking with the Aussies and Kiwis.

Too many drugs and not enough beer, makes some people

behave strangely like this chap. I wonder if he will find his shoes?

[Gottfrid]

  On 11/1/2024 at 2:18 AM, SOTIRIOS said:

...Blaming An Apparent Victim...(?)

Wow

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Where is that apparent?

[Patong2021]

The mob is at it again. Judging someone guilty without evidence.

 

  On 10/31/2024 at 6:22 AM, NativeBob said:

Thailand urgently needs "tourist scavengers" to locate and isolate scum like this. At Ratchada 4 almost every second day some "agitated foreigner" Catch, neuter and send them to temp. asylum

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Why is he scum? Scum is someone who condemns without established facts. How do you know he was not unwillingly drugged? Jeffrey Dahmer was a mass murderer in the USA. He drugged his 17 victims before murdering and then dismembering them.  One of his  victims was 14 year old Konerak Sinthasomphone. He had escaped Dahmer and was found on the street wandering drunk and in a confused state. He was returned to Dahmer by police after Dahmer convinced them that Sinthasomphone was 19 and drunk, and the two were in a relationship.  That's what an assumption like yours results in. 

 

  On 10/31/2024 at 9:12 AM, scubascuba3 said:

A criminal record check on entry would filter out a lot of these low life

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It is impossible for Thailand to undertake criminal record checks of visitors to Thailand. Your demand would necessitate  Thailand having access to the criminal databases of other nations, and Thailand does not have it.  Only people on international registries that specifically file with Thailand  can be identified.

 

  On 10/31/2024 at 9:18 AM, SingAPorn said:

Call the Brit embassy on the spot, have them pick up the junkie and deported next day on their expense.

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How do you know this person is a junkie? Did you check his bloodwork?

 

  On 10/31/2024 at 3:26 PM, vangrop said:

Overmuscled guy, probably a body builder. No surprise the lad was acting erratically with all the junk these people inject themselves

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If you think this man is over muscled you must be in awful physical shape or embarrassed by your own physique. The man has a trim physique with defined musculature suggesting he visits the gym or performs manual labour. His body is in proportion. He isn't over muscled. 

 

  On 11/1/2024 at 6:59 AM, BritManToo said:

That's a bit harsh, the guy might have had a stroke/heart attack/heatstroke or some other medical emergency while out jogging. There's no indication of any criminal activity taking place.

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Finally, a responsible, fair and  rational observation.

[SingAPorn]

  On 11/1/2024 at 5:45 PM, Patong2021 said:

 

 

 

How do you know this person is a junkie? Did you check his bloodwork?

 

 

 

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How do you know he is not ? If by your standards it is normal behaviour to walk around so scantilly clad, to agressively shout at people, shout at the rescue workers, try to flee on a railroad track....it could then be a bit useless to argue further. Have you fully read the article ?

[Patong2021]

  On 11/1/2024 at 5:58 PM, SingAPorn said:

How do you know he is not ? If by your standards it is normal behaviour to walk around so scantilly clad, to agressively shout at people, shout at the rescue workers, try to flee on a railroad track....it could then be a bit useless to argue further. Have you fully read the article ?

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In the civilized world where the rule of law is respected, we have one common belief, a presumption of innocence. The burden of proof is on you to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the man is a "junkie". Your arguments are unfounded and a suggest either intentional trolling or are the imaginings of an ignorant individual.

 

Plausible explanations have been provided, with a possibility that the man was having a mental health episode, or was drugged or had another type of health crisis. You have no idea if the man is a junkie, and yet you label him as one. You call him scantily clad. The man's shorts are no different than what other people wear, and if anything are actually longer. The manner in which he is sitting hiked the pants up, but it is clear that the shorts are appropriate. Yes, the man was in an agitated state. So what? Some manifestations of mental illness, of sugar imbalance, of seizure and stroke can leave a person in a  terrible state too. If he had been involuntarily drugged, he might have ended up this way too.

[cdnvic]

Removed an insulting post and replies to it.

[scubascuba3]

  On 11/1/2024 at 5:45 PM, Patong2021 said:

it is impossible for Thailand to undertake criminal record checks of visitors to Thailand. Your demand would necessitate  Thailand having access to the criminal databases of other nations, and Thailand does not have it.  Only people on international registries that specifically file with Thailand  can be identified.

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People wanting long stay visas can provide a home country criminal record check, we don't have to problem solve it here

[fredwiggy]

  On 11/1/2024 at 5:45 PM, Patong2021 said:

The mob is at it again. Judging someone guilty without evidence.

 

 

Why is he scum? Scum is someone who condemns without established facts. How do you know he was not unwillingly drugged? Jeffrey Dahmer was a mass murderer in the USA. He drugged his 17 victims before murdering and then dismembering them.  One of his  victims was 14 year old Konerak Sinthasomphone. He had escaped Dahmer and was found on the street wandering drunk and in a confused state. He was returned to Dahmer by police after Dahmer convinced them that Sinthasomphone was 19 and drunk, and the two were in a relationship.  That's what an assumption like yours results in. 

 

 

It is impossible for Thailand to undertake criminal record checks of visitors to Thailand. Your demand would necessitate  Thailand having access to the criminal databases of other nations, and Thailand does not have it.  Only people on international registries that specifically file with Thailand  can be identified.

 

 

How do you know this person is a junkie? Did you check his bloodwork?

 

 

If you think this man is over muscled you must be in awful physical shape or embarrassed by your own physique. The man has a trim physique with defined musculature suggesting he visits the gym or performs manual labour. His body is in proportion. He isn't over muscled. 

 

 

Finally, a responsible, fair and  rational observation.

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Jumping to conclusions and assumptions are high here,along with prejudice against certain nationalities, and seeing it's a forum of mainly retired expats, it simply amazes me what some say.

[fredwiggy]

  On 11/1/2024 at 9:17 PM, scubascuba3 said:

People wanting long stay visas can provide a home country criminal record check, we don't have to problem solve it here

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I'm wondering if you realize just how many criminals, especially white collar types, that there are without a criminal record.

[fredwiggy]

  On 11/1/2024 at 10:20 AM, BangkokReady said:

 

You want rid of tourists who come to Thailand to get wasted on drugs and alcohol?  Do you think Thailand can survive that kind of financial hit?

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What they don't realize, or not care, is that every negative remark against any foreigner makes us all look bad. I'm not for sticking up for any bad behavior, but it's best to remain silent as not to supply ammunition.

[scubascuba3]

  On 11/1/2024 at 9:35 PM, fredwiggy said:

I'm wondering if you realize just how many criminals, especially white collar types, that there are without a criminal record.

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let's start with those with criminal records

[fredwiggy]

  On 11/1/2024 at 10:27 PM, scubascuba3 said:

let's start with those with criminal records

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Are you the appointed farang policeman? And you missed my point. And what should be done with the thousands of corrupt and criminal locals here?

[jacko45k]

  On 11/1/2024 at 3:01 AM, Bday Prang said:

nice to see the hang 'em high squad are still virtue signalling

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Perhaps he would be safer back home instead of wasting police time here. 

(Tongue in cheek!)

[scubascuba3]

  On 11/1/2024 at 11:10 PM, fredwiggy said:

Are you the appointed farang policeman? And you missed my point. And what should be done with the thousands of corrupt and criminal locals here?

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no doubt you have a criminal record, those types always get defensive, the dodgy locals is something the Thais can sort out

[fredwiggy]

  On 11/2/2024 at 12:01 AM, scubascuba3 said:

no doubt you have a criminal record, those types always get defensive, the dodgy locals is something the Thais can sort out

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Like I've said before, many times. Some assume they know people in an online forum. You don't. It isn't being defensive when you don't like seeing adults acting like teenagers.And again, it's none of your business what other foreigners do unless it affects you personally and just by posting negatives about them, it makes others look bad, including yourself.

[watchcat]

  On 10/31/2024 at 6:10 AM, Woke to Sounds of Horking said:

Hmm. Just say No, kids.

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 Kids should not inhale the stuff

[jacko45k]

  On 11/2/2024 at 12:11 AM, fredwiggy said:

it's none of your business what other foreigners do unless it affects you personally

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If the foreigner is of the same Nationality as me, I believe it does have an affect, and I can opine.

[fredwiggy]

  On 11/2/2024 at 12:53 AM, jacko45k said:

If the foreigner is of the same Nationality as me, I believe it does have an affect, and I can opine.

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Yes, but again, if it's negative comments, it still makes all foreigners look bad.