Kemi Badenoch: New Tory Leader “Labour’s worst nightmare”

[MalcolmB]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

people walking into the UK

How do you walk into the UK? It is an island.

[transam]

2 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

How do you walk into the UK? It is an island.

Off a boat.............

Don't worry, I think your bar is open now, Goaty...

[G_Money]

5 minutes ago, mokwit said:

Tories as they had historically been until they went Progressive, although Chomper thought that the Boris Johnson Government was the "extreme right wing".

Was Margaret Thatcher a Tory?  
 

She was a staunch supporter of Reagan.  His dance partner too.

 

The good ole days.

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

 

Her inability to accept criticism is a weakness, it’s now going to be on full display.

 

   What is that claim based on, that she cannot accept criticism ?

Is it because the Guardian says so ?

[Nick Carter icp]

8 minutes ago, G_Money said:

Was Margaret Thatcher a Tory?  
 

She was a staunch supporter of Reagan.  His dance partner too.

 

The good ole days.

 

 

 

   Do give it a rest about USA politics , well off topic

[mokwit]

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   What is that claim based on, that she cannot accept criticism ?

Is it because the Guardian says so ?

I think Chomper should back up his claim, ideally with a link. He is always demanding others do but slinks away when he is asked. let's bookmark this one and keep reminding him.

[G_Money]

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Do give it a rest about USA politics , well off topic

Read the first sentence.

 

Appears you’re not a fan of Thatcher.

Edited November 4 by G_Money

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, G_Money said:

Read the first sentence.

 

Appears you’re not a fan of Thatcher.

 

   I just read the whole article again, not just the first sentence , and USA /USA politics isn't mentioned at all .

[Will B Good]

3 minutes ago, G_Money said:

Read the first sentence.

 

Appears you’re not a fan of Thatcher.

 

 

The Iron Lady of UK politics.....may she rust in hell.

[G_Money]

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I just read the whole article again, not just the first sentence , and USA /USA politics isn't mentioned at all .

I was referring to my post.  
 

Was Thatcher a Tory?    No US politics there 

 

The extra text was just admiration. No a political statement until you made it an issue.

 

So apparently you weren’t a Thatcher fan.

[AndreasHG]

2 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

She is vehemently anti-woke, anti illegal immigration, and she vociferously supports JK Rowling, Sharron Davies

 

Tories keep on playing Nigel Farage's playbook, the one he is a master at winning, and they just proved incapable of mastering.
 

While the UK public is increasingly becoming sick and tired of vehement stances, and is striving for the coming back of some British 'commonsense' and 'decency' in politics, the ones made famous by the humble 'grocery shopkeeper' Margaret Thatcher.

 

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, G_Money said:

I was referring to my post.  
 

Was Thatcher a Tory?    No US politics there 

 

The extra text was just admiration. No a political statement until you made it an issue.

 

So apparently you weren’t a Thatcher fan.

 

   Was Neil Armstrong a spaceman ?

Was Mohammed Ali a Boxer ?

Was Robin Batman's mate ?

[Nick Carter icp]

16 minutes ago, mokwit said:

I think Chomper should back up his claim, ideally with a link. He is always demanding others do but slinks away when he is asked. let's bookmark this one and keep reminding him.

 

   I did  websearch myself and this was the first non Guardian result 

From Khalid Hassan

 

"I DIRECTLY and PERSONALLY criticised Kemi and a senior member of her campaign. I asked them to take a different approach to a certain issue. Both of them were absolutely brilliant, listened carefully, exchanged views and convinced me that their approach was sensible. These were meaningful, grown-up, pleasant exchanges that helped us, sensible adults, to build meaningful relationships with one another. Please don't listen to what the media tells you about a politician. By the way, Suella Braverman is also one of the nicest politicians I've ever dealt with. Exact opposite of what the media says about her."

 

 

[G_Money]

9 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Was Neil Armstrong a spaceman ?

Was Mohammed Ali a Boxer ?

Was Robin Batman's mate ?

That difficult to answer a direct question?

 

You've learned from the best.

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, G_Money said:

That difficult to answer a direct question?

 

You've learned from the best.

 

  If you want to learn about the basics of any given subject , then do a websaech and learn about it .

   I am not here to tell posters the basics of the topic .

Your question into Google :

 

Was Thatcher a Tory?

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=was+margaret+thatcher+a+tory&oq=was+margteret+tahtcher+a+tory&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqCQgBEAAYDRiABDIGCAAQRRg5MgkIARAAGA0YgAQyCAgCEAAYFhgeMggIAxAAGBYYHjINCAQQABiGAxiABBiKBTINCAUQABiGAxiABBiKBTIKCAYQABiABBiiBDIKCAcQABiABBiiBNIBCjExMTUxajBqMTWoAgiwAgE&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[G_Money]

9 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  If you want to learn about the basics of any given subject , then do a websaech and learn about it .

   I am not here to tell posters the basics of the topic .

Your question into Google :

 

Was Thatcher a Tory?

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=was+margaret+thatcher+a+tory&oq=was+margteret+tahtcher+a+tory&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqCQgBEAAYDRiABDIGCAAQRRg5MgkIARAAGA0YgAQyCAgCEAAYFhgeMggIAxAAGBYYHjINCAQQABiGAxiABBiKBTINCAUQABiGAxiABBiKBTIKCAYQABiABBiiBDIKCAcQABiABBiiBNIBCjExMTUxajBqMTWoAgiwAgE&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Simple yes or no would of been acceptable.

 

I’m a Churchill fan also.  I see many here have not taken his advice despite no longer young.

 

 

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, G_Money said:

Simple yes or no would of been acceptable.

 

 

  You should find out yourself and not bother asking me 

[jayboy]

5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Utter nonsense, she’s a gift to Labour and the Lib Dems.

 

According to many sources, that's exactly what the dumber unreflective voices in the Labour Party believe to be the case.To be fair it is also the unofficial Labour Party 'point to make'  and is sometimes heard even from those who don't really believe it.

 

The upper levels and more intelligent people in the Labour Party think quite differently, and consider she could be extremely awkward for Starmer in PMQ and elsewhere.It's not easy to dismiss an intelligent combative black woman and she has the ability to exploit the current government's many weak points.In my view she is not a serious threat given the Tories' need to rebuild not to mention the government's large majority.But despite the parliamentary strength support for Labour is very shallow.Badenoch will be no pushover.

[AndreasHG]

10 minutes ago, G_Money said:

 

According to Wikipedia both Thatcher and Churchill were not ‘conservatives’ but both were ‘ideologically adherent to economic liberalism’.

To me they were pragmatic, results oriented leaders who were not impeded in their quest for results by prejudice, sectarianism or fanaticism. And this is what in essence conservatism is.

I live fanaticism to Marxists and Islamists.

[transam]

6 minutes ago, jayboy said:

 

According to many sources, that's exactly what the dumber unreflective voices in the Labour Party believe to be the case.To be fair it is also the unofficial Labour Party 'point to make'  and is sometimes heard even from those who don't really believe it.

 

The upper levels and more intelligent people in the Labour Party think quite differently, and consider she could be extremely awkward for Starmer in PMQ and elsewhere.It's not easy to dismiss an intelligent combative black woman and she has the ability to exploit the current government's many weak points.In my view she is not a serious threat given the Tories' need to rebuild not to mention the government's large majority.But despite the parliamentary strength support for Labour is very shallow.Badenoch will be no pushover.

Spot on..........

[Chomper Higgot]

14 minutes ago, jayboy said:

 

According to many sources, that's exactly what the dumber unreflective voices in the Labour Party believe to be the case.To be fair it is also the unofficial Labour Party 'point to make'  and is sometimes heard even from those who don't really believe it.

 

The upper levels and more intelligent people in the Labour Party think quite differently, and consider she could be extremely awkward for Starmer in PMQ and elsewhere.It's not easy to dismiss an intelligent combative black woman and she has the ability to exploit the current government's many weak points.In my view she is not a serious threat given the Tories' need to rebuild not to mention the government's large majority.But despite the parliamentary strength support for Labour is very shallow.Badenoch will be no pushover.

Lots of claims there of who holds what opinions but oddly no sources to back your claims.

 

 

[MalcolmB]

1 hour ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

I’ve seen this type of reply from you on numerous occasions. You make a fatuous statement, then when asked to explain it, you are rendered incapable, so you just insult people; you should also bear in mind that nobody would struggle to understand anything that you are capable of articulating.

 

 

If you want to vote for someone who identifies as a feminist then knock yourself out.

[Nick Carter icp]

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Lots of claims there of who holds what opinions but oddly no sources to back your claims.

 

 

 

   Talking about backing up claims, what do you base your claim on that she cannot accept criticism ?

[BruceWayne]

5 hours ago, mfd101 said:

Noone is 'conservative' (in the proper sense) in any modern society. How could you be as everything changes around you on a regular basis?

 

'Right-wing' or 'right-of-centre' makes more sense as a description of what she (presumably) stands for.

 

Youre a boomer in Thailand so oblivious to the rate of change.

 

Racial make up of the popuation has/is cahnging massively and prices have risen by over 50% to 150% since convid.

 

Many of the things changing do NOT need to be changing unless there's an agenda that NO ONE voted for

 

Capiche?

[Nick Carter icp]

3 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

I could but I would have to use big words you probably would struggle to comprehend. 

 

   Go on then ,  give it a go .

Explain using big words .

Lets see whether it would be incomprehensible or not  

[mokwit]

12 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Lots of claims there of who holds what opinions but oddly no sources to back your claims.

 

 

Link here for those who want to hold Chomper to the standard he demands of others.

https://imgflip.com/memegenerator/398221598/Goose-Chase

Edited November 4 by mokwit

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Talking about backing up claims, what do you base your claim on that she cannot accept criticism ?

Her performance in the house arguing with the Speaker is an example.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, mokwit said:

 

Letting ripped memes do your thinking again.

[Nick Carter icp]

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Her performance in the house arguing with the Speaker is an example.

 

 

  Arguing with the speaker isn't an example of not being able to accept criticism , that is just normal discussion and putting your point across , thats what politicians do in the HoC

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Arguing with the speaker isn't an example of not being able to accept criticism , that is just normal discussion and putting your point across , thats what politicians do in the HoC

I suggest you revisit Badenoch arguing with the Spear, it’s definitely it ‘a normal discussion’.