Navigating Friendships Amidst Conspiracy Beliefs: Finding a Way Forward

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The COVID-19 pandemic has left an indelible mark not just on public health but on the way people relate to the world and to each other. Many people have experienced a shift in their thinking, with some turning to conspiracy theories as a way to make sense of uncertainty and fear. One person struggling with this shift is a long-time friend who feels increasingly alienated by a friend’s new views and behaviors.

 

Since the pandemic began, this friend has drifted toward conspiracy theories, relying heavily on "alternative news" sources, endorsing hard-right narratives, and aligning with controversial figures like Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin. Although he claims to be an anarchist and refrains from voting, his rhetoric is often dismissive, arrogant, and insulting toward those who disagree with him, making meaningful dialogue feel impossible.

 

Philippa Perry offers insight into this situation by explaining how turbulent times often drive people to seek firm, simple answers. She recalls how, during the 1930s, Germany was ripe for authoritarian influence because people felt lost in the wake of World War I and the Great Depression. Adolf Hitler offered a direct, albeit dangerous, narrative: Germany’s troubles were due to specific groups, such as the Jewish community. For many Germans, this worldview simplified the chaos and provided a false sense of stability.

 

In a similar way, conspiracy theories today offer straightforward explanations for complex issues, granting people a sense of control. Perry points out that this pattern reflects a fundamental human tendency to seek certainty in times of instability, even if that means endorsing divisive or harmful ideas.

 

Perry references philosopher Hannah Arendt, who noted that individuals feeling isolated or alienated are especially susceptible to movements promising solidarity. According to Arendt, such ideologies provide a clear “us vs. them” dichotomy, which transforms the world into a simple struggle between good and evil. By blaming certain people or groups for their suffering, individuals can channel their fears and frustrations outward, which can be psychologically comforting but socially destructive.

 

Perry suggests that this friend’s embrace of conspiracy theories is a modern example of this need for certainty. His affinity for hard-right figures who portray themselves as strong leaders likely stems from his desire for clear answers in a time of upheaval. Believing in a hidden, malevolent force behind world events may feel safer than confronting the unpredictability of life.

 

Perry adds that challenging such beliefs often intensifies people’s defensiveness. She offers the metaphor of steering into a skid: when someone is deeply committed to their worldview, pushing against them often just reinforces their position. Instead, it may be more effective to try to understand the emotions and fears underlying their beliefs. For instance, the friend’s fears may have been ignited by the pandemic, a time when it might have felt easier to believe in a single cause, rather than a chaotic series of events. This sense of control can be comforting, even if it requires vilifying others.

 

Perry likens this approach to comforting a child who believes in monsters under the bed; empathizing with the child can help them feel secure enough to let go of their fears. Similarly, approaching a friend with empathy might encourage them to open up to different perspectives, although it is far from a guarantee.

 

Ultimately, it’s important to seek relationships where mutual respect is maintained. Perry emphasizes that it is not selfish to pursue friendships that add positivity to one’s life. If repeated attempts to connect empathetically do not lead to meaningful engagement, it may be time to consider moving on from the relationship. This does not mean abandoning compassion, but recognizing that some ideological divides are too deep to bridge without mutual effort and respect.

 

Based on a report by the Guardian 2024-11-05

 

 

 

[Tug]

First off I want to thank the aseannews team for running this.I have been deeply troubled how many Americans have gone down this conspiracy stuff I mean my god (hang dr Fauci) !!! That’s just nuts!never in my wildest dreams heck we over here may end up with a president who is giving a absolute nutter a big say in our healthcare system.to me it’s really simple when someone advances a weird idea I ask myself who benefits.In the case of politics especially…….

[jerrymahoney]

My only US friends anymore are folks I have known for 50 years and -- as they are all international travelers -- would more likely visit me in Thailand before I visit them in US.

Other than that, my only friends these days are Thai females who could not tell you who is the current US president.

[Chomper Higgot]

51 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

My only US friends anymore are folks I have known for 50 years and -- as they are all international travelers -- would more likely visit me in Thailand before I visit them in US.

Other than that, my only friends these days are Thai females who could not tell you who is the current US president.

I agree, my true friends are people I’ve known since childhood. I refer to these as ‘friends with provenance’.

We grew up together in a small community and know both each other and each others families since earliest memories.

 

As for anyone else I know who’s gone down the conspiracy rabbit hole, life’s too short; that’s what the delete button is for.

 

 

 

[JonnyF]

When the MSM is so politicized/biased and often inaccurate at best or downright dishonest at worst, it's perfectly normal for people to seek other sources for their news.

 

Sometimes that leads to "conspiracy theories" which now basically means questioning those mainstream narratives. Sometimes these theories prove to be correct and sometimes they do not.

 

The prudent thing to do in such an environment is to keep an open mind. Plenty of things on social media go against the mainstream narrative and even government announcements and then turn out to be the truth. One recent example, that the Southport child killer was a Muslim extremist. That was ridiculed as a "conspiracy theory" that was denounced by many as false, and later turned out to be true. 

 

 

[spidermike007]

I have a few friends who are into the conspiracies but they have enough qualities where I'm just able to overlook the nonsense, and oftentimes if they start talking about their conspiracies I will just ask them if we can change the subject and move on to something more sensible. As far as Dr Fauci goes, I am not a conspiracy theorist, but it is important to understand that the man was a military virologist for his entire career before becoming a big dog at the CDC during covid. Enough said. 

[Will B Good]

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

When the MSM is so politicized/biased and often inaccurate at best or downright dishonest at worst, it's perfectly normal for people to seek other sources for their news.

 

Sometimes that leads to "conspiracy theories" which now basically means questioning those mainstream narratives. Sometimes these theories prove to be correct and sometimes they do not.

 

The prudent thing to do in such an environment is to keep an open mind. Plenty of things on social media go against the mainstream narrative and even government announcements and then turn out to be the truth. One recent example, that the Southport child killer was a Muslim extremist. That was ridiculed as a "conspiracy theory" that was denounced by many as false, and later turned out to be true. 

 

 

 

 

Calling someone a Muslim extremist before you know, or have any evidence to that effect, is the very definition of a conspiracy theory.......can you not see that?

 

The fact that it was then established they were/are a Muslim extremist lends no validity whatsoever to the unfounded claims made beforehand.

 

It really isn't that difficult.

[Chomper Higgot]

One of the benefits of social media and online forums is they provide platforms on which Conspiracy nuts have the opportunity to out themselves, thereby saving the rest of us the trouble of finding out how whacked out they are before they ever get too close.

 

We know employers search the online behavior of would be employees, it makes sense to do so, online activity is there for all to see.

 

 

 

 

[MalcolmB]

They are all stark raving mad over there.

 

I avoid Americans as much as possible. I can’t deal with all their conspiracy garbage.

And the garbage Hollywood churns out and their favorite sport WWE and you realize they will believe anything. 

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, MalcolmB said:

They are all stark raving mad over there.

 

I avoid Americans as much as possible. I can’t deal with all their conspiracy garbage.

And the garbage Hollywood churns out and their favorite sport WWE and you realize they will believe anything. 

 

 

WWE.....that 'sport' is toe curlingly embarrassing.

[MalcolmB]

8 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

WWE.....that 'sport' is toe curlingly embarrassing.

Trumps favorite.

The fans all vote for him.

 

Fake tough guy.

[Will B Good]

3 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Trumps favorite.

The fans all vote for him.

 

Fake tough guy.

 

 

Says it all.

[Purdey]

9 hours ago, Social Media said:

his rhetoric is often dismissive, arrogant, and insulting toward those who disagree with him, making meaningful dialogue feel impossible.

Tell him to join AN. 

[jippytum]

it's not a conspiracy to say most people where conned during the covid epidemic. 

Sometimes intentionally by Governments and sometimes by drug companies. 

The UK Populal vaccine Astra Venica has been discredited and millions in compensation paid. 

[Will B Good]

3 minutes ago, jippytum said:

it's not a conspiracy to say most people where conned during the covid epidemic. 

Sometimes intentionally by Governments and sometimes by drug companies. 

The UK Populal vaccine Astra Venica has been discredited and millions in compensation paid. 

 

 

The UK’s Vaccine Damage Payment Scheme (VDPS) had received  622 claims re: AstraZeneca vaccine out of 50 million doses administered.

 

Pretty damn good compared to how many people might have died or be suffering from long Covid......assuming Covid even existed of course....555

[JonnyF]

56 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Calling someone a Muslim extremist before you know, or have any evidence to that effect, is the very definition of a conspiracy theory.......can you not see that?

 

The fact that it was then established they were/are a Muslim extremist lends no validity whatsoever to the unfounded claims made beforehand.

 

It really isn't that difficult.

 

But they did know. They found Al Qaeda manuals and Ricin. 

 

They just didn't release it to the public. Local people who knew the background of the guy and exposed the truth were labelled conspiracy theorists. But it turned out to be true. So the "conspiracy theorists" were in fact correct. 

 

 

[James105]

1 hour ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Calling someone a Muslim extremist before you know, or have any evidence to that effect, is the very definition of a conspiracy theory.......can you not see that?

 

The fact that it was then established they were/are a Muslim extremist lends no validity whatsoever to the unfounded claims made beforehand.

 

It really isn't that difficult.

 

Most knew he was a muslim straight away so it wasn't really a 'conspiracy theory' at all, just a fact that was being "managed" until it could be released along with some other big news story, like the budget for example.  What other group has form for butchering innocent little kids in the name of their religion?   It really isn't that difficult.  

[James105]

30 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

The UK’s Vaccine Damage Payment Scheme (VDPS) had received  622 claims re: AstraZeneca vaccine out of 50 million doses administered.

 

Pretty damn good compared to how many people might have died or be suffering from long Covid......assuming Covid even existed of course....555

 

Do you know the requirements to get that though?  Someone needs to prove that they are 60% disabled to get it.   An enlarged heart that reduces life expectancy wouldn't qualify for example along with probably lots of other conditions caused by this vaccine that don't meet this threshold but have damaging effects on someones life.   Considering the average age of death from covid was over 82 years old I suspect that a 20 year old who received that vaccine who is (only) 50% disabled now isn't particularly comforted by this. 

 

https://www.gov.uk/vaccine-damage-payment/eligibility 

Edited November 5 by James105

[Inderpland]

1 hour ago, jippytum said:

it's not a conspiracy to say most people where conned during the covid epidemic. 

Sometimes intentionally by Governments and sometimes by drug companies. 

The UK Populal vaccine Astra Venica has been discredited and millions in compensation paid. 

You know, when casually posting such mind-boggling statements it would greatly help you credibility if you could back up anything you say with links to credible sources.

[Enoon]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

 

But they did know. They found Al Qaeda manuals and Ricin. 

 

They just didn't release it to the public. Local people who knew the background of the guy and exposed the truth were labelled conspiracy theorists. But it turned out to be true. So the "conspiracy theorists" were in fact correct. 

 

 

 

Al-Qaeda "manuals" about what?

 

How to be a Muslim or how to make IEDs and/or brew Ricin?.

 

******-up teenagers, mostly males, download all sorts of terrorist materials, about how to carry out terrorist attacks, from any source that's going.

 

You have heard part of the story.........your febrile prejudice has invented the rest of it.

 

Small reminder, he is of a Rwandan parentage:

 

93.8% Christianity

3.0% no religion

2.2% Islam

1.0% other

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwanda

 

 

[JonnyF]

4 minutes ago, Enoon said:

 

Al-Qaeda "manuals" about what?

 

How to be a Muslim or how to make IEDs and/or brew Ricin?.

 

Maybe you should read up on the case before posting nonsense.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c05zpdq0lzgo

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Enoon said:

 

******-up teenagers, mostly males, download all sorts of terrorist materials, about how to carry out terrorist attacks, from any source that's going.

 

Most teenagers don't then carry out a terrorist attack killing 3 young girls. 

 

[Enoon]

34 minutes ago, Inderpland said:

You know, when casually posting such mind-boggling statements it would greatly help you credibility if you could back up anything you say with links to credible sources.

 

The only credible sources they recognise are those which support their prejudice......which is, in itself, a product of their peculiar psychological makeup.

 

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/people-drawn-to-conspiracy-theories-share-a-cluster-of-psychological-features/

 

https://neurosciencenews.com/psychology-conspiracy-theories-23531/

 

https://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2023/06/why-people-believe-conspiracy-theories

 

https://www.npr.org/2021/01/15/957371294/how-qanon-like-conspiracy-theories-tear-families-apart

 

 

 

 

[jippytum]

40 minutes ago, Inderpland said:

You know, when casually posting such mind-boggling statements it would greatly help you credibility if you could back up anything you say with links to credible sources.

If you disagree or dispute  Statements why don't you do your own research and demonsrate to us why  in your opinion the statements are incorrect

[Inderpland]

Just now, jippytum said:

If you disagree or dispute  Statements why don't you do your own research and demonsrate to us why  in your opinion the statements are incorrect

You made the statements, not me. But if you wanna come across as someone who's all fart and no poo then be my guest.

[JonnyF]

Talking of "conspiracy theories", turns out Imane Khelif does in fact have meat and 2 veg, and xy chromosomes. 

 

https://www.freepressjournal.in/sports/olympic-gold-medalist-boxer-imane-khelif-has-xy-chromosomes-and-testicles-says-algerian-athletes-medical-report

 

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/trends/olympic-gold-medalist-algerian-boxer-imane-khelif-confirmed-as-man-in-leaked-medical-reports-outrage-follows-12858207.html

 

Another one to add to the list 😄. 

 

[Presnock]

11 hours ago, Tug said:

First off I want to thank the aseannews team for running this.I have been deeply troubled how many Americans have gone down this conspiracy stuff I mean my god (hang dr Fauci) !!! That’s just nuts!never in my wildest dreams heck we over here may end up with a president who is giving a absolute nutter a big say in our healthcare system.to me it’s really simple when someone advances a weird idea I ask myself who benefits.In the case of politics especially…….

not only the RFK jr bit bit ILON to cut benefits programs throughout the govt saying it is going to be rough for some people.  They also have the famous Project 2025 where all the govt employees that do not worship Trump are out of a job.  replacing all supervisors unless an oath the the Orange one.  Seems to me as an American that Putin the puppeteer is manipulating some strings! My opinion anyway.

[Will B Good]

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

But they did know. They found Al Qaeda manuals and Ricin. 

 

They just didn't release it to the public. Local people who knew the background of the guy and exposed the truth were labelled conspiracy theorists. But it turned out to be true. So the "conspiracy theorists" were in fact correct. 

 

 

 

You seem confused.

 

Even accepting the authorities knew immediately (which is very doubtful) doesn't mean the rest of the population "knew".

 

They may well have guessed correctly......but it was just that....a guess, maybe an educated guess, a lucky guess, an obvious guess.....all immaterial......people did not 'know"......so guessing in this fashion, by any measure, is a conspiracy.

 

[Will B Good]

3 hours ago, James105 said:

 

Most knew he was a muslim straight away so it wasn't really a 'conspiracy theory' at all, just a fact that was being "managed" until it could be released along with some other big news story, like the budget for example.  What other group has form for butchering innocent little kids in the name of their religion?   It really isn't that difficult.  

Most knew he was a muslim straight away......pray tell, how?

[Chomper Higgot]

17 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Most knew he was a muslim straight away......pray tell, how?

Has it been confirmed he’s a Muslim?

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Has it been confirmed he’s a Muslim?

 

 

Yes.

 

JonnyF knew all along.....straight from the off??