What Americans Want and why Democrats Failed

[NickyLouie]

 

 

 

 

 

[BangkokReady]

Amazing.  The things he listed are basically what the Dems have been ignoring for the past four years, in favour of DEI, woke, inclusivity, or whatever you want to call it.  It's turned the US into a shadow of its former self, and I really hope that Trump can fix it.

[Patong2021]

The reality is that inflation had been tamed, the economy was stronger and getting stronger and interest rates were decreasing.

If  Americans are expecting an economic miracle, they are in for a rude awakening. 

 

[NickyLouie]

21 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

If  Americans are expecting an economic miracle, they are in for a rude awakening. 

 

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[Patong2021]

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The majority of Americans  do not invest in the Stock market and will not share in the profits. They don't even benefit from the increased returns pension and retirement funds  receive since many are living paycheck to paycheck. What matters to them is the cost of rent, of housing or medical care, of food, of transportation  etc.

 

[NickyLouie]

58 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

The majority of Americans  do not invest in the Stock market and will not share in the profits. They don't even benefit from the increased returns pension and retirement funds  receive since many are living paycheck to paycheck. What matters to them is the cost of rent, of housing or medical care, of food, of transportation  etc.

 

 

thank God you're not giving out investment advice

 it would be as bad as your political picks 

 

BOOM !!!

 

 

BOOM !!!!

 

Instablocked 

Edited November 6 by NickyLouie
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[mdr224]

1 hour ago, Patong2021 said:

 

The majority of Americans  do not invest in the Stock market and will not share in the profits. They don't even benefit from the increased returns pension and retirement funds  receive since many are living paycheck to paycheck. What matters to them is the cost of rent, of housing or medical care, of food, of transportation  etc.

 

Thats why the dems lost. The cost of housing and food has skyrocketed

[nattaya09]

1 hour ago, Patong2021 said:

 

The majority of Americans  do not invest in the Stock market and will not share in the profits. They don't even benefit from the increased returns pension and retirement funds  receive since many are living paycheck to paycheck. What matters to them is the cost of rent, of housing or medical care, of food, of transportation  etc.

 

Over half of American households have a 401k, IRA or similar retirement plan. 

[Jim Blue]

So based on previous policies starting with Bush ,the poor bastards are going to get poorer and the billionaires will get richer  It 's the American way !

[G_Money]

18 minutes ago, Jim Blue said:

So based on previous policies starting with Bush ,the poor bastards are going to get poorer and the billionaires will get richer  It 's the American way !

 The poor will always remain poor.  Most have no incentive to work or better their lives.

 

Personal choice.  Not the government’s responsibility directly.  Most local governments have programs to help.  Those that take advantage and apply themselves succeed.  Others can’t be bothered trying or working for “the man”.

 

Try offering a homeless person holding a sign work.   Vast majority don’t want work.  Only a handout. It’s become a lifestyle choice for many.

 

In America.

[Patong2021]

4 hours ago, nattaya09 said:

Over half of American households have a 401k, IRA or similar retirement plan. 

What is a "household"?

Why not be more accurate;    Among working-age individuals (ages 15 to 64), the most common type of retirement accounts in 2020 were 401(k)-style accounts (34.6%). About 18% of working-age individuals had an IRA or Keogh account, and 13.5% had a defined-benefit or cash balance plan. 

 

As you can see, the Median Value in those retirement funds is not very much. Even if there are large increases in the returns, the reality is that there will be  chump change to play with. 

 

 

The have nots will remain have nots. people like me  who are financially well off, will do much better.

[Jingthing]

They clearly want fascism.

[G_Money]

7 hours ago, Jingthing said:

They clearly want fascism.

I see getting your butt spanked in the election hasn’t stopped your mouth from spitting out lies and propaganda.

 

 

[jas007]

7 hours ago, Jingthing said:

They clearly want fascism.

 

I think you have it backwards.  Fascism is exactly what they don't want. Hence the rejection of the authoritarian Dems and the landslide election of Trump.  If you don't understand that, you should probably take a break from reading propaganda.  Read some real news. 

[impulse]

13 hours ago, nattaya09 said:

Over half of American households have a 401k, IRA or similar retirement plan. 

 

89% of the value of stocks is owned by 10%.  They may have a 401K, but it'll be decades before they cash in.  After working about 10 years, I moved over my retirement account when I changed companies.  It was worth a few thousand $$$  (that was the '80s)  Chump change.

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/18/the-wealthiest-10percent-of-americans-own-a-record-89percent-of-all-us-stocks.html#:~:text=The wealthiest 10% of American households now own,to the latest data from the Federal Reserve.

 

The people I worry about are the starter families that don't have a portfolio or home equity and probably never will.  The ones being crushed by high prices and credit card debt.  The ones that aren't financially comfortable enough to have kids...

 

Inflation may have been tamed, but the new normal is killing ordinary families.

 

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, jas007 said:

 

I think you have it backwards.  Fascism is exactly what they don't want. Hence the rejection of the authoritarian Dems and the landslide election of Trump.  If you don't understand that, you should probably take a break from reading propaganda.  Read some real news. 

"Real news" like on Russia Today, Qanon or Alex Jones?

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, G_Money said:

I see getting your butt spanked in the election hasn’t stopped your mouth from spitting out lies and propaganda.

 

 

You're confused.

Winning the elections doesn’t make the maga fascist movement good.

It only means they won.

[G_Money]

34 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You're confused.

Winning the elections doesn’t make the maga fascist movement good.

It only means they won.

I was 100% correct in my previous post!  You just proved it.  Lies

 

But you can never deny this fact!  Who’s your daddy now?

 

 

 

 

Edited November 7 by G_Money

[connda]

15 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You're confused.

Winning the elections doesn’t make the maga fascist movement good.

It only means they won.

 

17 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

"Real news" like on Russia Today, Qanon or Alex Jones?

I honestly wonder when the hatred inside of you is going to eventually manifest in health problems.  I find it sad that you suffer from a perspective where you only can see Fascists, and Hitlers, and garbage, and deplorables to the right of you.  And yours is a perspective that is echoed on the anger-torn Left. I am sorry, but I just don't understand it.  No - Trump isn't "Hitler," MAGA aren't "Fascists," and conservative Americans are neither "garbage" or "deplorable."  To invoke a Buddhist metaphor, you chose over and over again to pick up the red-hot coal of irrational hatred toward anyone to the right of your own world-views with the intention of harming them with your word - yet - you really only harm yourself in the end.  You should try letting that enmity go and attempt to garner acceptance.  It's four years and then there will be another election (two years for Congress) - the US democracy-machine keeps idling along in the US come war or peace, through thick or thin.  Then you can support a candidate of your choice and toss your vote into the ring and may the whomever collects either the most votes (Congress) or electoral votes (Presidency) wins.  Otherwise in the next four years you'll just eat yourself from the inside out.  I wish you the best.

[Jingthing]

6 minutes ago, connda said:

 

I honestly wonder when the hatred inside of you is going to eventually manifest in health problems.  I find it sad that you suffer from a perspective where you only can see Fascists, and Hitlers, and garbage, and deplorables to the right of you.  And yours is a perspective that is echoed on the anger-torn Left. I am sorry, but I just don't understand it.  No - Trump isn't "Hitler," MAGA aren't "Fascists," and conservative Americans are neither "garbage" or "deplorable."  To invoke a Buddhist metaphor, you chose over and over again to pick up the red-hot coal of irrational hatred toward anyone to the right of your own world-views with the intention of harming them with your word - yet - you really only harm yourself in the end.  You should try letting that enmity go and attempt to garner acceptance.  It's four years and then there will be another election (two years for Congress) - the US democracy-machine keeps idling along in the US come war or peace, through thick or thin.  Then you can support a candidate of your choice and toss your vote into the ring and may the whomever collects either the most votes (Congress) or electoral votes (Presidency) wins.  Otherwise in the next four years you'll just eat yourself from the inside out.  I wish you the best.

Straw man sleazy game.

[Jingthing]

9 minutes ago, G_Money said:

I was 100% correct in my previous post!  You just proved it.  Lies

 

But you can never deny this fact!  Who’s your daddy now?

 

 

 

 

You worship him.

Do you want to force others to?

It's appearing that many of the sore winners do.

 

[jas007]

40 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

"Real news" like on Russia Today, Qanon or Alex Jones?

 The Legacy media is all but dead. They blew it. They can no longer maintain the false narratives.  The truth is out there, for anyone willing to look outside the echo chamber of the left.  Elon Musk and X have arrived on the scene.  He paid 40 billion dollars to buy free speech and the future of media.  An excellent example of what can happen when the truth can be heard.  And the truth is from the people.  People not afraid to think for themselves. People not afraid to question authority.  Want some real news?  Sign up for X and read whatever interests you.  Read the Community Notes.  Read all points of view.  Some of it is nonsense, some of it is propaganda, some of it is the "truth," whatever that might be.  Is it not allowed to question the official narrative?  Ask yourself why they're so afraid of people doing that?  

 

Today, they call censors "fact checkers."  Any viewpoint they don't like?  "Misinformation."  And in some places in the world, they're now jailing people for expressing an opinion.  Sick.  

[G_Money]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

You worship him.

Do you want to force others to?

It's appearing that many of the sore winners do.

 

Sore winners?  LOL

 

But please do continue making a fool of yourself.

 

We expect it from you.

 

Who’s your daddy now?  Come on, say his name.

 

 

[Jingthing]

Just now, G_Money said:

Sore winners?  LOL

 

But please do continue making a fool of yourself.

 

We expect it from you.

 

Who’s your daddy now?  Come on, say his name.

 

 

Felon. Rapist. Insurrectionist. 

[G_Money]

5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Felon. Rapist. Insurrectionist. 

All lies.  It’s what you do best.

 

Not a felon until sentencing.

 

No criminal convictions for rape nor insurrection.

 

What will you do if the January 6th protesters are Pardoned?

 

Edited November 7 by G_Money

[transam]

1 minute ago, G_Money said:

All lies.  It’s what you do best.

 

Not a felon until sentencing.

 

No criminal convictions for rape not insurrection.

 

What will you do if the January 6th protesters are Pardoned?

 

Call, foul..........

[Jingthing]

11 minutes ago, G_Money said:

All lies.  It’s what you do best.

 

Not a felon until sentencing.

 

No criminal convictions for rape nor insurrection.

 

What will you do if the January 6th protesters are Pardoned?

 

Why do you defend such a sleazeball?

[mogandave]

16 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

The majority of Americans  do not invest in the Stock market and will not share in the profits. They don't even benefit from the increased returns pension and retirement funds  receive since many are living paycheck to paycheck. What matters to them is the cost of rent, of housing or medical care, of food, of transportation  etc.

 

Do you think giving $25k to people would have driven housing prices down? 

 

 

[G_Money]

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Why do you defend such a sleazeball?

That’s Mr President to you.  Don’t forget it.

[transam]

3 minutes ago, G_Money said:

That’s Mr President to you.  Don’t forget it.

Why not, I think many Americans will, a convicted felon actually getting away with murder via a job..........................?