Chomper Higgot Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 24 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said: To quote Harold Wilson: "One man's wage increase is another man's price increase". Whether ir not those on minimum wage will end up better off, is debatable. I doubt he was talking about people at the very bottom of the pay heap, those in need of Government subsidies to meet their living costs. Subsidies paid out of taxes that are actually subsidizing businesses paying low wages. 1
Popular Post James105 Posted November 9, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 9, 2024 47 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Well at least folk on the minimum wage will have a bit more money I their pocket, or dies that too offend you? They only have additional money in their pockets if prices stay the same though, which quite obviously they will not due to the economically illiterate clowns in Labour raising the cost of doing business in the UK. 3 2
Popular Post Red Forever Posted November 9, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 9, 2024 I bet that some posters on here will be in denial that taxes must rise in order to protect our public services. They'd much prefer those halcyon 14 Tory years of deliberate defunding of local authorities whilst shoveling billions of £s to their donors and cronies. Starmer and Reeves have made a start in repairing our broken economy. Predictably, the self entitled, rabid rightards are calling "foul"! Suck it up morons. Remember, "we're all in this together". 1 1 2 1
youreavinalaff Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 2 minutes ago, Red Forever said: I bet that some posters on here will be in denial that taxes must rise in order to protect our public services. They'd much prefer those halcyon 14 Tory years of deliberate defunding of local authorities whilst shoveling billions of £s to their donors and cronies. Starmer and Reeves have made a start in repairing our broken economy. Predictably, the self entitled, rabid rightards are calling "foul"! Suck it up morons. Remember, "we're all in this together". If posters on a forum need to realise tax rises were needed, why didn't the, obviously more qualified, Labour party polititians realise during their election campaign? Or, are you saying they lied? 1
youreavinalaff Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 2 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said: If posters on a forum need to realise tax rises were needed, why didn't the, obviously more qualified, Labour party polititians realise during their election campaign? Or, are you saying they lied? Or are they rightards? Or morons? It has to be one of these???
Red Forever Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 4 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said: Or are they rightards? Or morons? It has to be one of these??? Rightardery is synonymous with moronic behaviour. Do keep up. 3 1
youreavinalaff Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 1 minute ago, Red Forever said: Rightardery is synonymous with moronic behaviour. Do keep up. You mean like not answering questions that go against one's agenda? You have questions to answer. Do keep up. 1 1
RichardColeman Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 Labour seems to be constantly filling in one financial hole by digging another financial hole. Tories are like Trump I guess, you may not like them, but they are always the less of the two evils . 1 1
Lancelot01 Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 6 hours ago, quake said: Nice one Keir. The weekly shop will go up in price for the uk citizens. But free for all the illegals in hotels all around the uk. Labour government, forging ahead. To quote, "You know it makes sense". 1
quake Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: It might be a good idea to wait until the impact of spending £Billions more on the NHS / schools and the increase in the minimum wage take effect. Oh pensioners still enjoying the triple lock too. Your right, and time will tell. But, I would be more impressed if money sent over seas to help, this that and the other. ( India for one, it has a xxxxxxxxx, space program ) was put into the NHS/Schools and the increase in minimum wage. win, win for people from the uk. That would get them in the good books of the uk population. 2
quake Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 4 minutes ago, Lancelot01 said: To quote, "You know it makes sense". Just a side note. I dislike Sainsburys, so much, My local pub was bulldozed in about 1992, and a Sainsburys was built on the site. its still there to this day. 1 2
scottiejohn Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: It might be a good idea to wait until the impact of spending £Billions more on the NHS / schools and the increase in the minimum wage take effect. Many pensioners will not live long enough to find out! 1 1
scottiejohn Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 22 minutes ago, quake said: Just a side note. I dislike Sainsburys, so much, My local pub was bulldozed in about 1992, and a Sainsburys was built on the site. its still there to this day. W;T;F; has that got to do with tax increases? 1 1
scottiejohn Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: It might be a good idea to wait until the impact of spending £Billions more on the NHS / schools and the increase in the minimum wage take effect. It might be a good very bad idea to wait until the impact of spending £Billions more on the NHS / schools and the increase in the minimum wage take effect and push inflation upwards!.
quake Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 20 minutes ago, scottiejohn said: W;T;F; has that got to do with tax increases? Nothing , that's why it was a side note. Duh. 1 1
scottiejohn Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 1 minute ago, quake said: Nothing , that's why it was a side note. Duh. Then why post it? 1 1
quake Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 5 minutes ago, scottiejohn said: Then why post it? You don't make the rules. So shut it. Duh. 1
Chomper Higgot Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 2 hours ago, James105 said: They only have additional money in their pockets if prices stay the same though, which quite obviously they will not due to the economically illiterate clowns in Labour raising the cost of doing business in the UK. Oh the keep the poor in poverty for their own good argument. 1
stevenl Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 15 minutes ago, scottiejohn said: Then why post it? Sad comment. It was related to Sainsbury 1 1
Negita43 Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 n the past 28 weeks up to 14 September, Sainsbury’s recorded a 3.7% increase in underlying retail profits, totalling £503 million. The supermarket has achieved significant market share gains, with grocery sales rising by 5% and a notable increase in their “Taste the Difference” range, up by 18%. Investment in perceived value, amounting to £1 billion, has been a crucial factor in attracting consumers to Sainsbury’s for larger shopping excursions. Sainsbury’s plans to expand further by opening up to 45 new stores, including recent acquisitions, to enhance their market presence. 1
Chomper Higgot Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 1 hour ago, youreavinalaff said: If posters on a forum need to realise tax rises were needed, why didn't the, obviously more qualified, Labour party polititians realise during their election campaign? Or, are you saying they lied? Labour did not promise not to raise taxes. 1 2
Chomper Higgot Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 1 hour ago, RichardColeman said: Labour seems to be constantly filling in one financial hole by digging another financial hole. Tories are like Trump I guess, you may not like them, but they are always the less of the two evils . Millions of people in the UK are paying significantly higher mortgage interest as a direct result of Tory ineptitude, a Tory budget that pushed the U.K. economy into otherwise unnecessary interest hikes. Tory PM Truss buried the lie of Tory fiscal responsibility. 1
youreavinalaff Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: Labour did not promise not to raise taxes. The Labour manifesto. 1
Chomper Higgot Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 3 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said: The Labour manifesto. Precisely, no promise not to raise taxes. A promise not to raise taxes on working people was made and has been kept. 1 1
Popular Post youreavinalaff Posted November 9, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 9, 2024 6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Precisely, no promise not to raise taxes. A promise not to raise taxes on working people was made and has been kept. Unless those working people inherit the farm on which they work. Or send their kids to private school or own a business or sell an asset at a profit or if the raise in minimum wage pushes them over the frozen threshold. I guess you missed Starmer's definition of "working people". Labour have twisted so much, they'd make you a great dance partner. 1 2
john donson Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 I was once shocked to see a docu, that put illegal in hotels costing over 100 pounds a day, plus 3 meals and snacks and pocket money... council going bankrupt you say? 1
Negita43 Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 Nothing to do with Sainsbury but whatever happend to listening to arguements and then making up your own mind about something - rather than having made up your mind (usually based on a political belief) and looking for arguements to support them. Polarisation of opinion does not bode well for a constructive and peaceful society (or forum) Yes we have different opinions and yes politicians are econimical with the truth but it is what it is so lets work to put it right instead of the same old "blame game". I hear a lot if complaints not many alternative solutions. 1 1
Chomper Higgot Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 1 hour ago, youreavinalaff said: Unless those working people inherit the farm on which they work. Or send their kids to private school or own a business or sell an asset at a profit or if the raise in minimum wage pushes them over the frozen threshold. I guess you missed Starmer's definition of "working people". Labour have twisted so much, they'd make you a great dance partner. Just incase the rise in the minimum wages pushes them over the threshold where they can afford to eat, and keep a roof over their heads. 1
youreavinalaff Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 43 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Just incase the rise in the minimum wages pushes them over the threshold where they can afford to eat, and keep a roof over their heads. No. Not really. A 21 hour week puts you on the threshold. If done one can't eat on that amount of work they can work more. The norm being 35 hours a week. Those "working people" that can and want to work only part time may well be pushed over the threshold. I suppose from a Labour point of view, those that can afford to only work part time are not classed as "working people".
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