Avoid homes with Trump signs Fema Supervisor told disaster workers in FLA

[riclag]

This is very sad!

The left is so sickening to take it to this level!

 

https://nypost.com/2024/11/08/us-news/fema-workers-told-to-avoid-homes-with-trump-signs-in-hurricane-ravaged-florida-community/

[nattaya09]

The top two management layers at DHS, DOJ & State need to be gutted and rebuilt. Mayorkas, Garland & Blinken's actions over the last 4 years should be investigated during the next AG's  tenure

[Lacessit]

43 minutes ago, riclag said:

This is very sad!

The left is so sickening to take it to this level!

 

https://nypost.com/2024/11/08/us-news/fema-workers-told-to-avoid-homes-with-trump-signs-in-hurricane-ravaged-florida-community/

Full story - one individual, repudiated by the agency.

 

But don't let that fact get in the way of your outrage.

[lordgrinz]

6 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Full story - one individual, repudiated by the agency.

 

But don't let that fact get in the way of your outrage.

 

This "one individual" was also not fired, that should have been the first thing they did. Based on your own link, this employee did indeed do this, and multiple homes were bypassed by other employees "because of the order". Meaning this was more than one person involved, unless we are to believe that people would be so naive as to follow an illegal order, or as they put it, "The employee who issued this guidance had NO AUTHORITY and was GIVEN NO DIRECTION to tell teams to avoid these homes" 

[nattaya09]

I doubt a lower-level federal govt. supervisor would risk their  retirement and pension in order to make  a unilateral decision like this without direction from higher up. They were busted and will cover by claiming a "lone, rogue employee"

Edited November 9 by nattaya09

[tai4de2]

5 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Full story - one individual, repudiated by the agency.

 

But don't let that fact get in the way of your outrage.

 

The naïveté is breathtaking here.

[impulse]

Dollars to donuts, Marn'i Washington will file a lawsuit for wrongful termination in a "friendly venue" and FEMA settles for $millions.  Probably in DC or some other Dem city.  And she'll be supported by The Squad.  (What's left of it, anyway)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[riclag]

Can you imagine a federal agency supervisor telling subordinates not to help other Americans in a disaster,

because of their political beliefs!

 

[impulse]

50 minutes ago, riclag said:

Can you imagine a federal agency supervisor telling subordinates not to help other Americans in a disaster,

because of their political beliefs!

 

In a word.  Yes.

 

[cjinchiangrai]

1 hour ago, riclag said:

Can you imagine a federal agency supervisor telling subordinates not to help other Americans in a disaster,

because of their political beliefs!

 

When there are gangs of MAGA thugs out "Hunting" FEMA workers with high powered weapons? A warning like that makes total sense.

[riclag]

10 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

When there are gangs of MAGA thugs out "Hunting" FEMA workers with high powered weapons? A warning like that makes total sense.

You lost get over it!

 

no sources to back your claims .

And if by chance high powered weapons did play into it because Florida is big in the second amendment rights and will hold looters accountable. A police presence accompanying Fema would of cut through that!

[Airalee]

Meanwhile, there was the potential that someone with a Trump sign in their yard was dying inside.  Maybe it was even a reality?

 

This woman deserves a lengthy prison sentence.

 

Threaten her with a life sentence and perhaps she’ll say who the directive really came from.

[simple1]

4 hours ago, riclag said:

Can you imagine a federal agency supervisor telling subordinates not to help other Americans in a disaster,

because of their political beliefs!

 

 

Considering trump is going to replace fed govt employee with "loyalists' one can expect such actions in the future. However, under trump they would not be fired as is the case with the subject employees.

[mogandave]

6 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

Considering trump is going to replace fed govt employee with "loyalists' one can expect such actions in the future. However, under trump they would not be fired as is the case with the subject employees.

He will not replace any more that Obama or Biden did.

 

Your press didn’t tell that every President does this, did they? 

 

One of Trump’s biggest mistakes in his first tern was allowing too many Obama holdovers. 

 

The people in the. executive branch are supposed to be loyal to the President. If they don’t want to be loyal, they should quit. 

[simple1]

7 minutes ago, mogandave said:

He will not replace any more that Obama or Biden did.

 

Your press didn’t tell that every President does this, did they? 

 

One of Trump’s biggest mistakes in his first tern was allowing too many Obama holdovers. 

 

The people in the. executive branch are supposed to be loyal to the President. If they don’t want to be loyal, they should quit. 

 

Yes I'm aware of change of personnel, but not the criteria of declaring loyalty to an individual as is the declared intent of trump world which I assume is contrary to Constitutional ethics. I note trump has yet to sign the required ethics agreements for transition of government processes.

 

https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/trump-transition-planning-ethics-agreements-biden-rcna179452

Edited November 10 by simple1

[mogandave]

1 minute ago, simple1 said:

 

Yes I'm aware of change of personnel, but not the criteria of declaring loyalty to an individual as is the declared intent of trump world which I assume is contrary to Constitutional ethics. I note trump has yet to sign the required ethics agreements for transition of government processes.

 

https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/trump-transition-planning-ethics-agreements-biden-rcna179452

I and not aware of anyone having to swear an oath to Trump above all else. Do you have evidence of such? 

 

A lot of insiders sabotaged his first term. I applaud his diligence. 

 

Is Trump refusing to sign sign the agreement or he just hads not signed it yet? 

 

Does he not want to sine anything that woukd stop him from being a fascist or a dictator? 

 

msnbc, that’s hilarious 

[connda]

23 hours ago, riclag said:

This is very sad!

The left is so sickening to take it to this level!

 

https://nypost.com/2024/11/08/us-news/fema-workers-told-to-avoid-homes-with-trump-signs-in-hurricane-ravaged-florida-community/

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/nov/8/ron-desantis-orders-probe-reports-fema-workers-ski/

 

[riclag]

13 minutes ago, connda said:

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/nov/8/ron-desantis-orders-probe-reports-fema-workers-ski/

 

If leftest leaning Fema workers were concerned about long rifles they could of engaged the law enforcement to accompany them ! I hope it gets investigated! Thanks fir the WT link
 

[simple1]

8 hours ago, mogandave said:

I and not aware of anyone having to swear an oath to Trump above all else. Do you have evidence of such? 

 

A lot of insiders sabotaged his first term. I applaud his diligence. 

 

Is Trump refusing to sign sign the agreement or he just hads not signed it yet? 

 

Does he not want to sine anything that woukd stop him from being a fascist or a dictator? 

 

msnbc, that’s hilarious 

 

Previously Schedule F:

 

On Wednesday, the president signed an executive order creating a new category of federal employees. Top officials could classify positions as having “a confidential, policy-determining, policy-making, or policy-advocating character.” Then they could sweep employees holding those positions into a new “Schedule F,” where employees would lose all protections, including those against discrimination, forced reassignments and relocations, and any rights to organize or appeal personnel decisions, for example. Most important, employees could be dismissed for any reason whatsoever. 

 

https://www.govexec.com/management/2020/10/trumps-order-sets-stage-loyalty-tests-thousands-feds/169492/

 

Now - transition cochair...

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-white-house-loyalty-b2625363.html

 

Republicans prepare the trump Loyalty Oath

 

National Republican Senatorial Committee chair Steve Daines has been “aggressively lobbying” senators to make their Trump endorsement now, before the blacklisting begins. House members and G.O.P. operatives aren’t far behind.

[simple1]

12 hours ago, mogandave said:

The people in the. executive branch are supposed to be loyal to the President

 

No. They swear an Oath to support the Constitution, not to support unlawful actions contrary to the Constitution by a President

[mogandave]

3 hours ago, simple1 said:

 

Previously Schedule F:

 

On Wednesday, the president signed an executive order creating a new category of federal employees. Top officials could classify positions as having “a confidential, policy-determining, policy-making, or policy-advocating character.” Then they could sweep employees holding those positions into a new “Schedule F,” where employees would lose all protections, including those against discrimination, forced reassignments and relocations, and any rights to organize or appeal personnel decisions, for example. Most important, employees could be dismissed for any reason whatsoever. 

 

https://www.govexec.com/management/2020/10/trumps-order-sets-stage-loyalty-tests-thousands-feds/169492/

 

Now - transition cochair...

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-white-house-loyalty-b2625363.html

 

Republicans prepare the trump Loyalty Oath

 

National Republican Senatorial Committee chair Steve Daines has been “aggressively lobbying” senators to make their Trump endorsement now, before the blacklisting begins. House members and G.O.P. operatives aren’t far behind.

So I was right, thanks 

[mogandave]

32 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

No. They swear an Oath to support the Constitution, not to support unlawful actions contrary to the Constitution by a President

And as long as their loyalty to the President does not interfere with their oath to support the Constitution, they should do so. 

 

Members of the Biden Administration, Harris included, by lying about his condition were being loyal to Biden, while ignoring their oath to the Constitution. Should they be prosecuted?

[ravip]

Now that's one helluva  Emergency Management Agency!

[simple1]

9 hours ago, mogandave said:

So I was right, thanks 

 

Right now we don't know how the "Loyalty Oath" will be sworn / actioned. One would think that swearing the OATH to Defend and Protect the Constitution would be sufficient, rather than also demanding a sworn Oath to an individual. Reminds me when trump was in power the Cabinet members were belittled by trump quite nauseating.

 

 

Edited November 11 by simple1

[riclag]

22 hours ago, connda said:

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/nov/8/ron-desantis-orders-probe-reports-fema-workers-ski/

 

Sad when a state( Fla) can’t trust the Biden / Harris administrations Fema head officials to be transparent in details , so they’ll perform  their own investigation ! 

[nattaya09]

1 hour ago, riclag said:

Sad when a state( Fla) can’t trust the Biden / Harris administrations Fema head officials to be transparent in details , so they’ll perform  their own investigation ! 

Unfortunately, that public distrust extends to most other fed govt agencies as they all appear to have been politically weaponized by the current regime

[riclag]

6 minutes ago, nattaya09 said:

Unfortunately, that public distrust extends to most other fed govt agencies as they all appear to have been politically weaponized by the current regime

You have been tuned in and 100 % correct!

Florida has also implemented its own Trump  Assassination investigation!

The FLA AG doesnt trust the same FBI leadership that raided Mar Lago to be transparent in their investigations.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4889479-florida-desantis-investigation-trump-attempt/

Edited November 11 by riclag

[riclag]

Smart of Trump to move his residence to FLA way back when!

 

[riclag]

On 11/11/2024 at 8:28 PM, nattaya09 said:

Unfortunately, that public distrust extends to most other fed govt agencies as they all appear to have been politically weaponized by the current regime

Fema worker said it was common practice. “Its wasn’t a isolated incident “

 

The accused said shes is being hung out to dry.

https://nypost.com/2024/11/12/us-news/fema-worker-accused-of-telling-staff-to-skip-hurricane-ravaged-trump-homes-claims-it-was-common-practice-this-is-not-isolated/

 

 

[pattayasan]

On 11/10/2024 at 5:23 PM, impulse said:

In a word.  Yes.

Probably worried about being shot when they knocked on the door because of right wing paranoia about looting. Especially if the worker is black.