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The Dangerous Prospect of RFK Jr.'s Influence on Global Health


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1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

 

As I've said before, the left are exactly what they accuse you of being. 

Pretty good analogy.

Just because someone objects to another's point of view louder sure doesn't make it right.

Maybe the idiots will shut the #&+@ up for a while at least.

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5 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I thought those facts I posted would mean nothing to you.

 

Do you eat fruit? Mouth bacteria feast just as happily on fructose as they do on sucrose.

 

Ignorance can be corrected with education. Wilful ignorance cannot.

 

A waste of my time talking to you. Bye now.

So you are right and I am wrong? I'm fully aware of what food does to the body.

 

Never mind about me. What about Kennedy? What about all the 'independent' researchers. Are they wrong?

 

Don't be fooled by vested interests, and compromised view-points. Do some research for yourself. Too much MSM I reckon.

 

Nature has the answers we seek.

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26 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Sodium fluoride , 99.9% pure, is dosed into water supply. Talk of it as a waste product is arrant nonsense.

 

In 1966, the Governor of Hawaii ended fluoridation of the water supply.

 

In 2024, Hawaii is the worst state in the USA in terms of dental cavities.

 

At what cost?

 

And did you consider the diet of the "average Hawaiian kid?"  Hawaiian cuisine seems to be heavy on sugar...

 

I don't  know enough about fluoride to have an opinion one way of the other.   I'm just glad we're getting someone in that's not averse to looking at the data, the good, the bad, and the ugly.  And maybe funding some of the studies on the gub'ment dime instead of leaving it to Big Ag and Big Pharma to decide where the research (and advertising) money go.

 

 Edit:  And I would add, a guy who doesn't have a career to justify and cover up all the poor decisions that have been coming out that are destroying public confidence in healthcare advice and policy.

 

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Meanwhile, in parts of Northern Thailand, there's waaaaaaay too much fluoride in water from some wells.

 

"This study was carried out in 2021-2022. The subjects (n=537) were all the school children in aged 6–12 years that high fluoride areas in Chiangmai, Lamphun, Lampang and Phayao provinces. Samples of drinking water were collected and their fluoride concentration determined using the standard method. The results showed that 77.7% of the subjects consume bottled water and 13.6% from piped water. Unsafe water was drunk by 27.9% of the subjects. The village waterworks at Muang district, Lamphun province had the highest fluoride concentration of 14.0 mg/l. The prevalence of dental fluorosis (moderate-severe) in the children was 11.3% also in Lamphun province".

https://icoh.anamai.moph.go.th/th/outline/download?id=108544&mid=37402&mkey=m_document&lang=th&did=40500

 

 

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35 minutes ago, BKKBike09 said:

Meanwhile, in parts of Northern Thailand, there's waaaaaaay too much fluoride in water from some wells.

 

"This study was carried out in 2021-2022. The subjects (n=537) were all the school children in aged 6–12 years that high fluoride areas in Chiangmai, Lamphun, Lampang and Phayao provinces. Samples of drinking water were collected and their fluoride concentration determined using the standard method. The results showed that 77.7% of the subjects consume bottled water and 13.6% from piped water. Unsafe water was drunk by 27.9% of the subjects. The village waterworks at Muang district, Lamphun province had the highest fluoride concentration of 14.0 mg/l. The prevalence of dental fluorosis (moderate-severe) in the children was 11.3% also in Lamphun province".

https://icoh.anamai.moph.go.th/th/outline/download?id=108544&mid=37402&mkey=m_document&lang=th&did=40500

 

 

I don't disagree too much fluoride is toxic. After all, drinking too much water results in hyponatremia. As Paracelsus said, the dose makes the poison.

 

0.5 ppm of fluoride in drinking water is perfectly safe. However, the anti-fluoriders seize on the kind of data you are posting to say all fluoride is bad. Some of them may even be smoking like chimneys, and drinking like fish, when they make the claim.

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1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

The fact is,

I believe people should be able to choose to have dental cavities or not ..... it's up to them.

And you believe you have the right to choose, as a liberal, what's best for everyone else.

Meanwhile most of the western world buy bottled water to avoid the fluoride.

Shouldn't you be attacking Perrier/Mountain Dew (et al) for selling water without fluoride?

 

Totally off topic,

does Hawaii not have shops selling toothpaste with fluoride?

Maybe someone could bottle fluoridated water and sell it to them. 

 

 

I believe public health measures are for the public good.

 

Tell me, if you want freedom of choice, are you willing to fund the cost of repair of your teeth?

 

Or if you are an anti-vaxxer, refusing polio and COVID shots, will you pay for an iron lung or ICU out of your own pocket?

 

Or will you want to use the public health system?

 

Fluoridated toothpaste is a topical application. Ingestion of fluoride is necessary to strengthen teeth inside and out.

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9 hours ago, Hakuna Matata said:

Drug advertising

Kennedy’s distrust of the pharma industry is also evident in his opposition to direct-to-consumer pharmaceutical advertising

 

9 hours ago, Hakuna Matata said:

Like political leaders on both sides of the aisle, Kennedy has supported measures to lower drug costs.

 

Putting aside his stupid, sectarian opposition to vaccines and medical science for a moment, RFK seems fully in line with the social democratic practices that have been going on in Europe since the dawn of time.

 

In Europe, prescription drugs are treated like tobacco: advertising to consumers is not allowed under any circumstance.

And in Europe pharmaceutical products prices are negotiated and strictly controlled by government agencies, rather than based on “how much the patient would be willing to pay at most to treat his or her ailment.”

 

The result is that drugs are much cheaper in Europe than in the US (often by a factor of 1 to 10 or 1 to 20) and yet pharmaceutical companies make healthy profits by selling them.

The losers are all the middlemen positioned between big-pharma and consumers: distributors, promoters, pharmacies, doctors, clinics and hospitals and insurance companies. Their big fat profits are kept incheck.

 

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