Called at the Chonburi Taxation office

[NanLaew]

On 11/22/2024 at 11:56 AM, chiang mai said:

 

"The department operates 12 regional revenue offices, 119 area revenue offices, and 850 area revenue branch offices throughout the country as well as 14 bureaus at its headquarters". 

 

Area offices are not always large but Jomtien appears to be larger than most. I will be very very surprised if there are no English speaking staff there.

 

Loads of Germans where I am but not a lot of German-speaking government office workers though.

 

I wonder why that is?

[scottiejohn]

28 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

That must be awfuly handy for the preponderance of farangs who can't speak the local lingo up there.

It as and they are very efficient and helpful.

[scottiejohn]

27 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

Loads of Germans where I am but not a lot of German-speaking government office workers though.

 

I wonder why that is?

As they do not make it into the top ten of visitors into the country!

[jayboy]

On 11/20/2024 at 11:05 PM, Jingthing said:

I personally think it's a massive folly and basically asking for trouble to go out of your way to get into the tax system here by applying for a TIN at this time

 

I don't vehemently disagree because I can see your logic but I think you are wrong, and it is not in my view a "massive folly" to acquire a TIN. I have a TIN and as matters stand will not be submitting a tax return for 2024 because i will have not remitted any assessable income in 2024.But more to the point I do not think it likely, even remotely likely, that the TRD will be checking whether non working foreigners with a TIN have submitted returns.

[chiang mai]

47 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

Loads of Germans where I am but not a lot of German-speaking government office workers though.

 

I wonder why that is?

German is not the sole national language of anywhere except Germany and Austria, neither is it regarded as the global language of business. English is widely spoken globally and is the language of business.

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, chiang mai said:

German is not the sole national language of anywhere except Germany and Austria, neither is it regarded as the global language of business. English is widely spoken globally and is the language of business.

 

It isn't in Thailand though.

 

Do the Germans speak Bahasa, Chinese, Indian and Russian up your way?

 

Asking for @scottiejohn

[chiang mai]

2 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

It isn't in Thailand though.

 

Do the Germans speak Bahasa, Chinese, Indian and Russian up your way?

 

Asking for @scottiejohn

English is taught in all schools, is required for any job in the medical field plus it's a country that has extensive tourism where English language is required. I believe if you try hard, as you probably understand, you can persuade many Thai's to overcome their shyness and speak some English.

[scottiejohn]

32 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

It isn't in Thailand though.

 

Do the Germans speak Bahasa, Chinese, Indian and Russian up your way?

 

Asking for @scottiejohn

Why bring me into your stupid post?

PS;  On second thought please do not bother answering!

[OJAS]

On 11/20/2024 at 2:28 PM, Stocky said:

I submitted a completed application form

 

Was it this form?

 

https://www.rd.go.th/fileadmin/tax_pdf/request/lp10.1_110355.pdf

 

If so, who completed it for you?

 

 

[billd766]

On 11/20/2024 at 2:20 PM, billd766 said:

I went to the tax office in Kamphaeng Phet yesterday with my Thai wife on a similar task.

 

That office said to come back after January 1st with a 12 month bank statement and they coud proceed from there.

 

As my wife did all the talking, I have no idea if they speak English.

A simple question for the 2 posters who posted laughing emojis.

 

Can you please explain why you think the comment is funny?

[G_Money]

On 11/20/2024 at 6:20 PM, Jingthing said:

Just for laughs, perhaps organize a super fun FLASH MOB where tens of thousands of local non -Thai speaking retired folks (do not bring Thai parners!), many in wheelchairs, some wheezing and coughing (no masks), all in beach wear, the vast majority will end up owing no tax anyway, to show up on one special day to demand their TINs! When they make it clear they don't speak English -- no promlema -- speak English MUCH LOUDER. Make incoherent hand gestures. Be sure the press including the INTERNATIONAL PRESS is notified. Good idea?

Great idea but you left out a certain group.

 

The men in lipstick, wigs and heels.

 

Surprised you left them out.  After all you believe in representation for all

[G_Money]

17 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

Why bring me into your stupid post?

PS;  On second thought please do not bother answering!

 

ROLMAO

[G_Money]

22 minutes ago, billd766 said:

A simple question for the 2 posters who posted laughing emojis.

 

Can you please explain why you think the comment is funny?

LOL.

 

I thought 13 yo teenagers were the only ones infatuated with emojis.

[NanLaew]

18 hours ago, chiang mai said:

English is taught in all schools, is required for any job in the medical field plus it's a country that has extensive tourism where English language is required. I believe if you try hard, as you probably understand, you can persuade many Thai's to overcome their shyness and speak some English.

 

I accept your views, but I believe that if one is going to live (and die) here, it is far, far easier to learn Thai and use it rather than play lucky-dip with the 'shy' locals. Life's to short for linguistic proselytism.

Edited yesterday at 04:01 AM by NanLaew

[G_Money]

18 hours ago, chiang mai said:

English is taught in all schools, is required for any job in the medical field plus it's a country that has extensive tourism where English language is required. I believe if you try hard, as you probably understand, you can persuade many Thai's to overcome their shyness and speak some English.

English is not taught at ALL schools.

 

 

[Presnock]

On 11/22/2024 at 11:25 AM, chiang mai said:

This should come as little surprise, the further away you are from Bangkok, the less people understand about current events and the worse communication is between organisations that are headquartered in Bangkok. Is it any wonder that people who have asked questions at their TRD branch in Nakon Nowhere have been met with very different answers.

Well this may be true or not, but I rcvd an email from expattaxesthailand.com saying that they have learned that the Kasikorn bank anyway will send out emails to account holders asking for a mailing address for two forms needed to be filled out by the account holders and then sent to the bank prior to a later Dec date.  These forms are to enable the bank to carry out their responsibility of the CRS exchange of banking information.  That agency is also doing a webinar on how to fill out these two forms and one can register for the 29 November 1300 or 1 PM for those not familiar with times.  This agency also advises that they offer a FREE 15-min consultation for individuals or if one has particular questions, one can provide those to the agency prior to the Friday webinar and they will try to answer them at that time.  Just saying, but looks like the banks are moving towards ALL local account holders providing information to the banks I guess and if one does not participate in this exercise, the bank might close out that account IMHO.  I, although I am very familiar now (thanks to this forum and some helpful advice or information from many others on this forum) so while I may fill out the forms and forward them, I know that I have no taxes this year based on the current rules.  Best of luck to all.

[Presnock]

20 hours ago, G_Money said:

English is not taught at ALL schools.

 

 

And, unfortunately (based on the local school experiences of my 21-year old daughter), her schools (5 different ones) her English training was absolutely useless and if I hadn't worked with her she wouldn't have been able to do anything correctly in English.  Several of the schools after we enrolled her there, they started getting rid of farang English teachers - at least one of those schools hired filipino teachers for English).  We kept leaving to what we researched and found to be the "best" local school but that was futile also as the lessons were horrible and when I complained to the Thai English teachers, I was informed that the school director would not allow them to consult with the local farang English teachers nor were they allowed to change any of the lessons though I found almost half of each lesson had blatant errors and though I would correct those and return it to the Thai English teachers, they never corrected that lesson with the students.  Eventually we opted to move from BKK to CM and enrolled in a brand new extremely welll thought out features in the buildings that rivaled most American schools.  After the first year although we were offered a full year's tuition to stay there, I realized that it was still a "local" school and we enrolled in CM International school.  Best move ever and daughter progressed greatly not only in English but graduated speaking, writing,  reading and teaching in 4 languages, each with a different alphabet! Now she is in the #1 university here top 1% of her sophomore class, plus has already spent classes at the number 1 University in Korea during term breaks and received outstanding academic achievement award from there (the only one in her whole class there).  She hd been accepted at a US College but due to immigration delay for her mother to take her back there, she opted to do her studies here.  Glad she did for sure as she is doing her studies in foriegn  languages, and  plans graduate study  at Seoul in a couple of years.  Just saying as this has been my experience with Thai and Enlish teaching - while I studied Thai some 50 years ago and while I can still chat with them and read easily,  I have forgotten more than I can remember.  Life is still great here and hope it remains as it seems much of the other world is going crazy.

[chiang mai]

20 hours ago, G_Money said:

English is not taught at ALL schools.

 

 

Yup the Thai National Curriculum says at p.252:

The foreign language constituting basic learning content that is prescribed for the entire basic education core curriculum is English, while for other foreign languages, e.g., French, German, Chinese, Japanese, Arabic, Pali and languages of neighbouring countries, it is left to the discretion of educational institutions to prepare courses and provide learning management as appropriate.

 

The whole shebang can be downloaded here: http://act.ac.th/document/1741.pdf.

It's a beautiful world!

 

"Every high school graduate studies English for 12 years".

 

 

 

 

[sometimewoodworker]

On 11/24/2024 at 11:02 AM, G_Money said:

English is not taught at ALL schools.

Actually it is. It is often poorly taught, and even more often taught in a way that the students find it difficult to learn, by teachers who have little to no ability in speaking it, but it is part of the core curriculum.