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Donald Trump has NO mandate -- not for his election and not for his extremist policies


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Posted
2 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

As well as a testament to how awful a candidate word-salad Harris was.

Well that's half the story. Their policies were as bad as the candidate herself. She had to hide from the camera because they couldn't showcase her. In turn she had to avoid talking about any policy and hide them like herpes.

 

They can't go on stage and simply have an honest conversation because their platform and planks are so extreme and unpopular. 

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Posted
16 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

the majority never wanted things to get that extreme. 

 

You can't know that.

 

Maybe that's exactly what the majority of sane Americans want.

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Posted
Just now, Cryingdick said:

she had to avoid talking about any policy and hide them like herpes.

 

Are you saying there is no cure for Harris, word salad, or her policies which could not differ from Joe Biden's policies despite being unburdened from what might have been?

 

No matter what treatment is applied to the American polity, the disease will return?

Posted
22 minutes ago, Chwooly said:

I will admit, I didn't watch as I know it will be more opinion from a guy who doesn't  have a clue since it was posted by a guy who doesn't have a clue.  Oh and please forgive me if I used the wrong pronoun for either of you

So why comment at all based on ad hominem? That's like reviewing a movie you haven't watched. Willful prideful ignorance.

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Haaha, a tv watcher under 25? Pronouns? Really? Mandates dont mean a thing. They arent law, merely a suggestion by an unqualified thief with financial ties

Posted
1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Pay attention to this going forward.

 

So for example when Trump calls up the MILITARY against his own people to help with his mass deportations

Yeah right, calling up the military for mass deportations of illegal aliens is not an implement against its own people, it’s against ILLEGAL ALIENS.


Now, pay attention going forward.

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Posted
54 minutes ago, novacova said:

Yeah right, calling up the military for mass deportations of illegal aliens is not an implement against its own people, it’s against ILLEGAL ALIENS.


Now, pay attention going forward.

So you think citizens won't be effected by such actions? Of course they will. 

Posted
51 minutes ago, Greentree said:

Trumps people cross all lines. Break the law, pay the price. If youre innocent, you have no worries.

Tell that to the innocent central park kids who Trump.wanted killed.

Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

It's over, Jingthing.

Yes the election is over.

Trump 2.0 is just getting started.

Allowing people to push a false mandate narrative without pushback is unwise.

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Trump was given a mandate to be President. The mandate includes the use of all powers and authority that attaches  to the Presidency.

Trump was not given a mandate to violate the US Constitution or to engage in bullying, or illegal acts.

 

Trump will be able to carry out his mandate using his legitimate and legal powers. The moment his administration violates the US Constitution and/or engages in illegal acts, he will be challenged. Trump cannot suspend the US Constitution. Many of the   claims of extremist actions, are just that, claims. To date, Trump has been following the rules. It is his right to choose cabinet officials, even if some are woefully bad. And btw, he's picked some very solid people too. It's a shame that the focus is on a few duds, when some are going to be good cabinet secretaries.

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Not sure what the purpose of this topic is. You need to stop blaming Trump and start blaming his voters for what's about to happen, it's not like he's made any effort to conceal his plans - and they voted him in again anyway.

 

Democracy is failing not because of the bad things that Trump will do, but because enough people voted for him anyway, for a variety of reasons (not least the painful process of swapping out Joe Biden last-minute).

Posted
5 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Trump was given a mandate to be President. The mandate includes the use of all powers and authority that attaches  to the Presidency.

Trump was not given a mandate to violate the US Constitution or to engage in bullying, or illegal acts.

 

Trump will be able to carry out his mandate using his legitimate and legal powers. The moment his administration violates the US Constitution and/or engages in illegal acts, he will be challenged. Trump cannot suspend the US Constitution. Many of the   claims of extremist actions, are just that, claims. To date, Trump has been following the rules. It is his right to choose cabinet officials, even if some are woefully bad. And btw, he's picked some very solid people too. It's a shame that the focus is on a few duds, when some are going to be good cabinet secretaries.

Trump has definitely not been following the rules and you don't even know the definition of mandate.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Caldera said:

Not sure what the purpose of this topic is. You need to stop blaming Trump and start blaming his voters for what's about to happen, it's not like he's made any effort to conceal his plans - and they voted him in again anyway.

 

Democracy is failing not because of the bad things that Trump will do, but because enough people voted for him anyway, for a variety of reasons (not least the painful process of swapping out Joe Biden last-minute).

Rubbish. Democracy obviously worked by way of an election where the majority of voters voted for change. Your fear mongering, speculative rhetoric based on what MSNBC and the rest of the MSM tells you to believe holds no legitimacy.

Posted
3 minutes ago, Caldera said:

Not sure what the purpose of this topic is. You need to stop blaming Trump and start blaming his voters for what's about to happen, it's not like he's made any effort to conceal his plans - and they voted him in again anyway.

 

Democracy is failing not because of the bad things that Trump will do, but because enough people voted for him anyway, for a variety of reasons (not least the painful process of swapping out Joe Biden last-minute).

You're getting into another topic. How this happened. Well it did happen and the fact remains Trump does not enjoy majority support.for the more extremist of his announced politicies.

Posted
1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

Rubbish. Democracy obviously worked by way of an election where the majority of voters voted for change. Your fear mongering, speculative rhetoric based on what MSNBC and the rest of the MSM tells you to believe holds no legitimacy.

 

Well the good news is that we'll all see about that. Very soon.

Posted
4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Trump has definitely not been following the rules and you don't even know the definition of mandate.

In representative democracies, a mandate is a perceived legitimacy to rule through popular support. Mandates are conveyed through elections, in which voters choose political parties and candidates based on their own policy preferences. The election results are then interpreted to determine which policies are popularly supported. A majority government provides a clear mandate,....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandate_(politics)#:~:text=In representative democracies%2C a mandate,on their own policy preferences.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Caldera said:

 

Well the good news is that we'll all see about that. Very soon.

Indeed we will so why keep blabbering on about it.

Posted
3 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Indeed we will so why keep blabbering on about it.

 

Just to amuse myself with your dumb replies, of course. 

Posted (edited)
21 minutes ago, Caldera said:

 

Just to amuse myself with your dumb replies, of course. 

Well it is said that "simple things amuse simple minds." 

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Posted (edited)

Policywise his real mandate is limited to make things cheaper. Not the crazy stuff. Good luck with that.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/11/26/trump-mandate-cabinet-nominees/

 

This is Trump’s real ‘mandate’

No, Trump doesn’t have a mandate for his extreme agenda.

 

 

Donald Trump apparently has an all-purpose, get-out-of-jail-free card: his “mandate.”

“America has given us an unprecedented and powerful mandate,” the president-elect declared on election night. His allies have since repeated this talking point to deflect any criticism of Trump’s choices. Apparently his “mandate” can include anything Trump dreams up, no matter how objectionable, authoritarian or corrupt.

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I despise the orange grifting conmaneven  more then you  JT ,but even i know  the village idiot has   a concept of a plan. 

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