I know a 14 yr old thai girl who was recently pregnant and had an abortion.

[BangkokReady]

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Looks as though it is you fulfilling that well-researched role!

 

There's an odd group that pop up whenever "consensual" sex with an underage adolescent comes up.  They get really angry and quite forcefully declare that the person has to be called a paedophile.  They seem to desperately need the person to have the label of someone who basically rapes babies and children attached to them.

 

It seems like they have a weird obsession with the whole thing...  🤔

[ubonr1971]

10 hours ago, Chris Daley said:

Imagine not being able to afford a free education system.  Or was it that the mom was off her face at 3am and didn't take her kid to school? 

EP programs in govt schools are not free shirlock. Around 20k to 25k every 6 months. 

[ubonr1971]

10 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

It seems like they have a weird obsession with the whole thing...  🤔

Its called a normal educated responsible attitude

[BangkokReady]

3 hours ago, ubonr1971 said:

Its called a normal educated responsible attitude

 

Getting angry and demanding that people who arent paedophiles be called as such is normal, educated and responsible? How so?

[Jonathan Swift]

On 12/1/2024 at 9:21 PM, NickyLouie said:

How about this; mind ur own f business in TH

How about this: I admire his compassion, values, and unselfishness, of which you apparently have none. You don't have to be like him, but the moral vacuum behind your crude comment is particularly reprehensible. 

[Jonathan Swift]

On 12/1/2024 at 9:11 PM, ubonr1971 said:

It wasn't me. 

 

We run a small business, and years ago, the mother (AAA) of the child (BBB) who recently got pregnant-  used to work for us. She was a nice kid who played with our child. She quit after a few yrs but 2 yrs ago came back to ask me for a loan to pay BBB's school fees at the EP program of a govt school. I said to her she can work it off by coming back part time in the evenings and doing cleaning. She accepted the offer and I remember saying to her that she should make BBB come here and do her homework. It never really happened. She just let the girl stay at home alone. She is a single mum. They divorced a long time ago. Father is an alcoholic with no contact. 

 

To describe AAA:

- Nice person but simple with low IQ

- Earlier this year she asked me for more money. She hadnt paid her moped finance. 3 months behind. She stupidly did finance on a 55k moped and total loan was 133k or something like that. 

- We were going away for a holiday and I offered her fresh fruit and vege from our fridge. No thanks she said. 'We only eat meals from 7 11

- Recently AAA decided to come work full time with us again. The deal was I would clear the loan 25k to zero. Pay her 20k a month plus OT. She quit after 3 weeks and now back to doing low paid market job and coming back working for us part time paying off the debt. She is financially irresponsible and stupid. We have a very happy work environment with 6 staff. Its all a good laugh and vibe and busy business. Unsure why she quit. 

- Several months ago AAA told us that her daughter was screaming and fighting with her at the village room where they stay. The landlord said no more noise or they are both out. 

 

BBB:

- Obviously had no father

- Hopeless mother who is not strong with discipline

- Overweight with her ultra processed food diet

- After the screaming incident above AAA asked my wife and I to talk to her. I told her that if she is a good girl and studies hard I would pay for her school fees for free and send her to university as well. I said no boyfriends though until she is older. We later found out that she was already having sex with the 27 yr old thai guy (boyfriend) at the time of that meeting.

 

My wife and I found out she was pregnant via one of our staff members whose friend knows the 27 yr old. I sent some assertive messages to AAA stating my disapproval and that its illegal and the guy should go to prison. AAA doesnt talk to me now when she comes back to work part time.

 

My wife said stay out of it and dont report anything to the police. The guy or his family could come after me. The wife said to me that I should not intervene in anyone else's problems

 

In a western country I would not hesitate to go to the police and report this. But here I think its too dangerous. Its weak of me I know but I have to think about my safety and my family's well being. 

 

The abortion was done at the big local govt hospital. The dr's said she is too young to keep it. 

 

I feel that, in the future, this girl might end up in soi 6 pattaya one day whilst AAA looks after the next baby. 

 

Another depressing day in Thailand. The 27 yr old pedo will get away with it. 

 

 

 

 

You are to be admired, it's a sad story. At least you tried, and more people should do so before they write off a troubled individual. I've had similar experiences where I've tried but found the person to be incorrigible, including my brother and his son, who both died in succession of overdoses at about the same age. I've also had some startling successes that I never knew about until they told me years later how I'd helped. My philosophy was that sometimes all a person needs is a bit of a push in the right direction to make a difference if they're teetering at a precipice. Are you sure there isn't a process that would protect your identity?

[BangkokReady]

7 hours ago, Jonathan Swift said:

How about this: I admire his compassion, values, and unselfishness, of which you apparently have none. You don't have to be like him, but the moral vacuum behind your crude comment is particularly reprehensible. 

 

I think you're missing the point.  This kind of thing is not uncommon in Thailand, and it's unlikely that the people even want to change, let lone have the willingness to put in the effort.

 

You're likely approaching things from a very Western-centric viewpoint (as it the OP), where you think that the woman and girl are victims of "the system", when really, they are products of it.

 

How can you save someone who is perfectly happy with how things are, and doesn't even view themselves as needing saving?

 

You cannot "assimilate" someone into Western thinking where suddenly they will become uninterested in dating an adult, completely change their attitude to education, and realign their life-goals with Western ones.  You would need some form of brainwashing.

[ubonr1971]

40 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

How can you save someone who is perfectly happy with how things are, and doesn't even view themselves as needing saving?

 

you are a creep it seems. do you think the 14 yr old is perfectly happy? Read my post again. she is screaming in the presence of her mother at their room. the landlord has given a warning. 

 

Please think before you write bs

[Captain Flack]

A troll post has been removed.

[BangkokReady]

2 minutes ago, ubonr1971 said:

you are a creep it seems. do you think the 14 yr old is perfectly happy? Read my post again. she is screaming in the presence of her mother at their room. the landlord has given a warning. 

 

You know nothing about people.  The girl probably has no desire to change her situation.  Screaming arguments are probably fairly default for them.

 

2 minutes ago, ubonr1971 said:

Please think before you write bs

 

I don't write BS.  What I write is sensible and well thought out.  You simply don't like it because it highlights your errors.

 

I'm not saying you never could have helped, but at this point it's very unlikely that you can change anything.  Unless you were family or some sort of state authority, who could remove her from the situation and force her to change, but still the damage is really already done.

 

I commend the fact that you care and would like to help, that's admirable, but the fact that you attack people who point out the truth to you simply because you don't like it, is a lot less praiseworthy.

[Patong2021]

On 12/1/2024 at 3:27 PM, scubascuba3 said:

BBB will definitely end up in Pattaya and so it continues

 

Not likely.

Read the description. Overweight with her ultra processed food diet

Unless there is a fetish venue  in Pattaya for fatsos, she won't be flaunting her wares. I am anticipating domestic  violence casualty or drug dealing, e.g. drug mule.

Or maybe a tiktok influencer........

 

[scubascuba3]

4 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Not likely.

Read the description. Overweight with her ultra processed food diet

Unless there is a fetish venue  in Pattaya for fatsos, she won't be flaunting her wares. I am anticipating domestic  violence casualty or drug dealing, e.g. drug mule.

Or maybe a tiktok influencer........

 

You haven't been in the bars recently? fatsos everywhere 

[Patong2021]

4 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

You haven't been in the bars recently? fatsos everywhere 

 

That's depressing. 

In Hua Hin,   it's  like a second career for elderly hookers. Maybe it's the hard living of drinking and smoking and late hours, but they don't age well. Lucky for them the customers are even older and don't see well in the dark. 

[Nick Carter icp]

On 12/2/2024 at 9:55 PM, BangkokReady said:

 

There's an odd group that pop up whenever "consensual" sex with an underage adolescent comes up.  They get really angry and quite forcefully declare that the person has to be called a paedophile.  They seem to desperately need the person to have the label of someone who basically rapes babies and children attached to them.

 

It seems like they have a weird obsession with the whole thing...  🤔

 

   There cannot be consensual sex with an underaged person, because underaged people cannot legally give consent 

[BangkokReady]

15 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

There cannot be consensual sex with an underaged person, because underaged people cannot legally give consent 

 

Correct.

[theblether]

Okay, this is the second underage sex thread I've read on this forum today. I didn't reply to the last one as the last time I did it ended up 35 pages worth of toxicity. I jest you not. I'll answer this one as the OP deserves an answer. 

 

1. Get rid of this low IQ clown. Write off the money, she is not worth the effort and there is no solution to her feckless dumbness. 

2. If your wife raises her name again, reply "not my house" then shut up. 

3. Thai professionals are involved in this case. They have a duty of care. At this point you are excused of all legal responsibility in this case - assuming you had any in the beginning ( you didn't ). 

 

Every Thai village has a percentage of the population that are truly worthless. They are beyond help, but hey, every society can say the same. I'm sorry you have allowed one these individuals to interfere with your Thai dream. Put an end to that, right now. 

 

I've said continuously on this forum that way to many of you are bumping up against low IQ, bipolar, psychologically inept, personality disordered weirdos in Thailand. This is the true reason why Thais cringe when they see you wandering around with their equivalent of crack whores ( literally in some cases ). Yabba is a hell of a drug. 

 

Setting aside the sexual element of this catastrophe, the bottom line is that the OP knew he was continuing to here a dumpster fire with a label called chaos hanging from her ass. 

 

Give it a rest. Walk away. 

 

 

[madone]

Get over yourself.

if you want to help them, then help them.

Otherwise, butt the <deleted> out.

[BangkokReady]

12 hours ago, theblether said:

Okay, this is the second underage sex thread I've read on this forum today. I didn't reply to the last one as the last time I did it ended up 35 pages worth of toxicity. I jest you not. I'll answer this one as the OP deserves an answer. 

 

1. Get rid of this low IQ clown. Write off the money, she is not worth the effort and there is no solution to her feckless dumbness. 

2. If your wife raises her name again, reply "not my house" then shut up. 

3. Thai professionals are involved in this case. They have a duty of care. At this point you are excused of all legal responsibility in this case - assuming you had any in the beginning ( you didn't ). 

 

Every Thai village has a percentage of the population that are truly worthless. They are beyond help, but hey, every society can say the same. I'm sorry you have allowed one these individuals to interfere with your Thai dream. Put an end to that, right now. 

 

I've said continuously on this forum that way to many of you are bumping up against low IQ, bipolar, psychologically inept, personality disordered weirdos in Thailand. This is the true reason why Thais cringe when they see you wandering around with their equivalent of crack whores ( literally in some cases ). Yabba is a hell of a drug. 

 

Setting aside the sexual element of this catastrophe, the bottom line is that the OP knew he was continuing to here a dumpster fire with a label called chaos hanging from her ass. 

 

Give it a rest. Walk away. 

 

Well said.

 

I think a lot of foreigners (and I'm sure we're all guilty of this at some point) have very rose tinted glasses when it comes to Thai people.  We kind of project this image that we have of the ideal Thai person showing perfect "Thainess" and it means we can be blind to the fact that there are many people in Thailand who are the equivalent of people back home that we would cross the road to avoid.

 

The OP definitely needs to wake up to this fact.  Thinking they (a foreigner) can simply tell some random Thai people what to do and they will completely change their personality and values is fairly naïve.

[Rimmer]

Personal attack leading to bickering have been removed

[madone]

12 hours ago, theblether said:

underage sex thread I've read on this forum today. I didn't reply to the last one as the last time I did it ended up 35 pages worth of toxicity.

underage sex seems to be a topic near and dear to the heart of many here.
 

 

12 hours ago, theblether said:

I'll answer this one as the OP deserves an answer. 

 

To the contrary, the OP deserves exactly nothing, despite their own firm belief that they have the right to inject themselves into the situation for a paltry financial contribution. 

 

[madone]

On 12/1/2024 at 9:11 PM, ubonr1971 said:

I sent some assertive messages to AAA stating my disapproval and that its illegal and the guy should go to prison. AAA doesnt talk to me now when she comes back to work part time.

 

I don't blame her, who the <deleted> do you think you are raining down judgment while cosseted in your comfortable life?

 

"assertive messages to AAA stating my disapproval" -- get a load of you.

[FruitPudding]

Amazing Thailand, as they say.

 

These stories are all too common here, such an insidious way of life. It's just the tip of the iceberg.

 

There's no question she'll end up in Pattaya selling her 🦪 and probably her 🍩 to finance her lazy good-for-nothing mother.

 

[madone]

12 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

There's no question she'll end up in Pattaya selling her 🦪 and probably her 🍩 to finance her lazy good-for-nothing mother.

no question? 

how smug you sound casually condemning a young girl to a life of prostitution.

it is almost like you are enjoying the idea as glibly select your little emjoi's -- are you a child?

[FruitPudding]

8 minutes ago, madone said:

 

I don't blame her, who the <deleted> do you think you are raining down judgment while cosseted in your comfortable life?

 

"assertive messages to AAA stating my disapproval" -- get a load of you.

 

You don't blame her for letting a 27 year old shag her 13-14 year old?

 

He probably helped financially and the poor girl's mother is so corruptable she went along with it. . 

 

I lived in Isaan. Most people own their own home and have farmland worth 1 million baht. They have a higher net worth than a lot of farang. There's no excuse.

[madone]

8 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

 

You don't blame her for letting a 27 year old shag her 13-14 year old?

 

no. I dont blame the mother for going silent while the great Western provider makes their moralistic pronouncements.

8 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

He probably helped financially and the poor girl's mother is so corruptable she went along with it. . 

you are pretty quick with the assumptions aren't you? 

Unlike you, i don't have enough information to cast judgments and make unsupported claims

 

8 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

I lived in Isaan.

 

sorry to hear you have made poor choices.

 

8 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

Most people own their own home and have farmland worth 1 million baht. They have a higher net worth than a lot of farang

not sure what that has to do with anything here at all -- and 1 million baht, what are you on about? 

[soalbundy]

On 12/2/2024 at 7:36 PM, john donson said:

many moons ago, we had a maid, worked for us for years... she 40, got pregnant again, at the same time as ... her 16 year old daughter...

Same father?

[FruitPudding]

1 hour ago, madone said:

 

Unlike you, i don't have enough information to cast judgments and make unsupported claims

 

Well, why did she let it happen? Didn't she try to protect her child?

 

1 hour ago, madone said:

 

sorry to hear you have made poor choices.

 

What's wrong with living in Isaan?

 

1 hour ago, madone said:

not sure what that has to do with anything here at all -- and 1 million baht, what are you on about? 

 

Pointing out that Isaan people are not in such financial difficulty that they need to pimp out their daughters.

[theblether]

4 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Well said.

 

I think a lot of foreigners (and I'm sure we're all guilty of this at some point) have very rose tinted glasses when it comes to Thai people.  We kind of project this image that we have of the ideal Thai person showing perfect "Thainess" and it means we can be blind to the fact that there are many people in Thailand who are the equivalent of people back home that we would cross the road to avoid.

 

The OP definitely needs to wake up to this fact.  Thinking they (a foreigner) can simply tell some random Thai people what to do and they will completely change their personality and values is fairly naïve.

 

The village knows, the police know, the professionals know. The police will move when they decide its appropriate. In some cases, that is never, as they know they are dealing with the hopeless dregs of Thai society. 

 

Action will be taken when the village, and the police decide, not some blustering farang. 

[BangkokReady]

8 minutes ago, theblether said:

The village knows, the police know, the professionals know. The police will move when they decide its appropriate. In some cases, that is never, as they know they are dealing with the hopeless dregs of Thai society. 

 

Action will be taken when the village, and the police decide, not some blustering farang. 

 

As far as I know, a 14 year old with a twenty something isn't even that unusual in Thailand (which doesn't mean that I think it is OK).  I doubt the police would get involved unless the mother makes a complaint, which is also very unlikely.

 

It's just another thing that we foreigners, while bothered by, can't do a thing about, even if it's "against the law" in Thailand.  Certainly preaching to parents or trying to influence the child is pointless.

[Briggsy]

Prostitution in huge numbers exists in every province in Thailand. The sector for foreigners is dwarfed by the sector for locals.

 

So, I don't know why I am reading, "She will be sent to Pattaya," so often. Far more likely it will be a large aap op nuat in any provincial capital.