Social Media Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 Keir Starmer, delivered his inaugural address at the annual Lord Mayor’s Banquet in London, a platform steeped in tradition and prestige since 1502. The speech, which centers on foreign policy, was an opportunity for Sir Keir to touch on key global issues such as Ukraine, China, and, in a surprising turn, Donald Trump. In what many have interpreted as a strategic pivot, Starmer expressed enthusiasm for strengthening the UK’s ties with the former U.S. president, signaling an intent to deepen the "special relationship" between the two nations. The event, held in the medieval splendor of the Guildhall, saw Starmer adopt the customary white tie and tails, a sartorial choice that contrasted with Gordon Brown's refusal to abandon his lounge suit during his tenure. Addressing diplomats, business leaders, and city elites, Starmer sought to justify his extensive international travel during his first five months as prime minister, which included 10 overseas trips and attendance at five major summits such as the UN, G20, and COP29. He argued that these journeys were vital for advancing Britain’s national interests, countering criticism that he was spending too much time abroad. The speech, as tradition dictates, was a sweeping survey of international relations. Yet, it was Starmer's overtures toward Donald Trump that drew the most attention. Praising the "special relationship," Starmer recalled a dinner hosted by Trump at Trump Tower during the president-elect’s previous tenure. "I told him that we will invest more deeply than ever in this transatlantic bond with our American friends in the years to come," Starmer shared. The anecdote, complete with Foreign Secretary David Lammy admitting to a second helping of chicken, aimed to convey a sense of cordiality and partnership. This embrace of Trump raised eyebrows, particularly as Starmer avoided any mention of current U.S. President Joe Biden. His reference to the transatlantic partnership was framed as part of a broader ambition to strengthen trade relationships with both the U.S. and Europe, rejecting the notion that the UK must choose between the two. He invoked historical figures like Clement Attlee and Winston Churchill to underline his point, drawing comparisons to past leaders who balanced alliances with both continents. However, the warmth toward Trump did not sit well with all. Just hours earlier in the Commons, Nigel Farage had criticized Starmer over his Chagos Islands deal, claiming Trump’s team was "appalled" by the agreement. This added a layer of complexity to Starmer’s attempt to align himself with the former president, suggesting potential friction behind the scenes. Starmer’s speech, while aiming to project confidence and a pragmatic approach to international relations, left many questioning the wisdom of his overt Trump admiration. Whether his remarks will resonate with the former U.S. president—or complicate relations further—remains to be seen. For now, the Prime Minister’s diplomatic balancing act continues to draw both praise and skepticism. Based on a report by Sky News 2024-12-04 1
Popular Post JonnyF Posted December 4, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 4, 2024 What a hypocrite. How's that brown nose Keir? You could start by apologizing for members of your cabinet's incredibly insulting comments about Trump, especially Lammy's but also your own. Then you could apologize for sending 100 Labour volunteers to campaign against Trump. Starmer is about as real as a LV Wallet from Patpong market. If you looked up "fake lying politican" in the dictionary there would be Starmer, right alongside Biden. 1 8 1 3
Popular Post Patong2021 Posted December 4, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 4, 2024 Starmer is doing what he must to defend the UK's best interest. Although Donald may relish at the humiliation of the UK, it is unlikely that Starmer's words will convince the Trump administration. 4 1
JonnyF Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 7 minutes ago, Patong2021 said: Starmer is doing what he must to defend the UK's best interest. Although Donald may relish at the humiliation of the UK, it is unlikely that Starmer's words will convince the Trump administration. I can imagine Trump and Musk's comments after Starmer leaves the room. 😆 "What a melt, oh well at least it will only be one term". 1 1
Purdey Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 I can't see Starmer helping the UK by brown nosing. The UK is no longer in the EU so is a much smaller fish these days. Maybe he can get Trump to buy another golf course? 1 1
Popular Post JonnyF Posted December 4, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 4, 2024 3 minutes ago, Purdey said: I can't see Starmer helping the UK by brown nosing. The UK is no longer in the EU so is a much smaller fish these days. Maybe he can get Trump to buy another golf course? It will be much easier to do a UK/US trade deal now we have left the EU. The EU take decades to get anything done. Too many nations bickering over their own self interests, and too many technocrats making things difficult. Trump won't tolerate any of that nonsense. Unfortunately the current clowns at Labour have messed up the relationship. When Farage is PM after the next election it will be much easier given his great relationship with Trump. 1 2 1 3
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted December 4, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 4, 2024 Starmer does what is best for the UK. Would it make sense for him to tell everybody what an ahole Trump is? No. That's why he doesn't do that. Apart from that, Trump is obviously an ahole and everybody knows that. 1 1 1 1 1
riclag Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 7 hours ago, JonnyF said: What a hypocrite. How's that brown nose Keir? You could start by apologizing for members of your cabinet's incredibly insulting comments about Trump, especially Lammy's but also your own. Then you could apologize for sending 100 Labour volunteers to campaign against Trump. Starmer is about as real as a LV Wallet from Patpong market. If you looked up "fake lying politican" in the dictionary there would be Starmer, right alongside Biden. Cheer up Better days are coming! Trump will have him kissing his ring soon ! Starmer’s popularity is mud. Enter Farage! 2
JonnyF Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: Would it make sense for him to tell everybody what an ahole Trump is? No. That's why he doesn't do that. Probably hasn't got the minerals, although he has been quite derogatory in the past in his own mealy mouthed way. No, Starmer's style is to get "the help" to do it. Make no mistake, Trump is no fan of Labour. Nor should he be. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/06/what-uk-politicians-said-about-donald-trump Don't think Musk is a huge fan of Labour either.
Popular Post Scouse123 Posted December 4, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 4, 2024 It's all smoke and mirrors. The USA doesn't have special relationships with any specific countries, it is too big an economy. It does have those countries it would rather do business with and trusted allies in conflict. At the end of the day, the USA looks after itself and its own interests, just like every country on the Globe. For all the threats, posturing, and talk and even nice diplomacy, don't expect any favours from Trump. 1 1 1
soalbundy Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 7 hours ago, JonnyF said: What a hypocrite. How's that brown nose Keir? You could start by apologizing for members of your cabinet's incredibly insulting comments about Trump, especially Lammy's but also your own. Then you could apologize for sending 100 Labour volunteers to campaign against Trump. Starmer is about as real as a LV Wallet from Patpong market. If you looked up "fake lying politican" in the dictionary there would be Starmer, right alongside Biden. Come now, they are all fake liars and sociopaths, no decent person would be a politician, a lawyer or a used car salesman. The halls of governance aren't spiritual retreats, they give up their morals at the door, they speak and vote for what's good for number one. As in Gilbert and Sullivan's opera, "I always voted at my party's call and never thought of thinking for myself at all".
scottiejohn Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said: Starmer does what is best for the UK. That comment should be in the joke section IMO! 1
Chomper Higgot Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 9 hours ago, JonnyF said: What a hypocrite. How's that brown nose Keir? You could start by apologizing for members of your cabinet's incredibly insulting comments about Trump, especially Lammy's but also your own. Then you could apologize for sending 100 Labour volunteers to campaign against Trump. Starmer is about as real as a LV Wallet from Patpong market. If you looked up "fake lying politican" in the dictionary there would be Starmer, right alongside Biden. It’s global politics Jonny, not the local Comp’ 5th form debate. 1
Chomper Higgot Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 Maybe Starmer is taking advice from Lindsey Graham, he’s obviously spotted a truism about Trump. No matter how visceral a critic of Trump has been in the past, Trump immediately passes that over if a bit of praise is laid on him. Smart play Kier. 1 1
The Cyclist Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Smart play Kier. 😀😀😀😀😀 Sure Nothing to do with Musk having lots of communications related to Starmer, which we cannot talk about due to a Super Injunction. 1 1
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted December 4, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 4, 2024 4 minutes ago, The Cyclist said: 😀😀😀😀😀 Sure Nothing to do with Musk having lots of communications related to Starmer, which we cannot talk about due to a Super Injunction. Link? 1 2
scottiejohn Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Smart play Kier. At what? It most certainly is NOT at being a Prime Minister! 1
Popular Post The Cyclist Posted December 4, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 4, 2024 Just now, Chomper Higgot said: Link? What do you think I am, your PA. Bolt. 4
Chomper Higgot Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 2 minutes ago, scottiejohn said: At what? It most certainly is NOT at being a Prime Minister! Opinions differ. 2 1
Popular Post James105 Posted December 4, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 4, 2024 25 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Maybe Starmer is taking advice from Lindsey Graham, he’s obviously spotted a truism about Trump. No matter how visceral a critic of Trump has been in the past, Trump immediately passes that over if a bit of praise is laid on him. Smart play Kier. Starmer is a weak, cowardly man, behaving like a beta male when faced against a stronger male (which is probably most of the male population). He is a "man" of such weak character he daren't stand up to a man he viscerally disagrees with. I doubt very much that Trump respects such cowardice and equally doubt he has forgotten the behaviour of the Labour front bench previously including Starmer. 4 1
Popular Post RayC Posted December 4, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 4, 2024 2 hours ago, JonnyF said: It will be much easier to do a UK/US trade deal now we have left the EU. The EU take decades to get anything done. Too many nations bickering over their own self interests, and too many technocrats making things difficult. Trump won't tolerate any of that nonsense. Unfortunately the current clowns at Labour have messed up the relationship. When Farage is PM after the next election it will be much easier given his great relationship with Trump. Ah yes, trade deals. They were going to be so easy to negotiate and sign post-Brexit and yet, to date, no deal of any significance e.g. with the US, China or India is even close to being agreed. Moreover, given the current protectionist climate in the US the chances of a deal with them in the near term are slim to non-existant. Should that slim chance materialise, the idea that the UK could negotiate a better deal with the US than the EU is fanciful. One need only look at the relative sizes of the GDPs to intuitively realise that: The US's GDP is $27 trillion, the EU's (collectively) $18 trillion and the UK's $3 trillion. 1 1 1
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted December 4, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 4, 2024 Trump is not stupid, he knows Starmer is a snake 3 1
Chomper Higgot Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 Just now, RichardColeman said: Trump is not stupid, he knows Starmer is a snake No Trump really is stupid. 1
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted December 4, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 4, 2024 3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: No Trump really is stupid. OK, compare yourself to him. Are you a billionaire and successful business person ? TV celebrity ? Ex-president that ran a country ? Got elected as president by a popular vote ? I doubt it , you are probably like me someone with an uneventful life that is just sitting here relaxing in Thailand now. Not a loser, but you - and me - are not in his league in intelligence, wealth or achievements 3 1
Chomper Higgot Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 6 minutes ago, RichardColeman said: OK, compare yourself to him. Are you a billionaire and successful business person ? TV celebrity ? Ex-president that ran a country ? Got elected as president by a popular vote ? I doubt it , you are probably like me someone with an uneventful life that is just sitting here relaxing in Thailand now. Not a loser, but you - and me - are not in his league in intelligence, wealth or achievements No, neither am an adjudicated rapist, a bankrupt, I don’t have a string of wives, I’ve never attended Epstein’s parties, I’ve never been convicted of anything in any court. My life has not been ‘uneventful’. I‘be seem zero evidence of Trump’s intelligence, but then he does hide the records on the matter. 2 1
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted December 4, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 4, 2024 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: No, neither am an adjudicated rapist You must be a severe left wing nutter to spout a lie. Trump has never been convicted of rape. I hope he sues you. I suggest you amend or remove your post 2 1
Chomper Higgot Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 1 minute ago, RichardColeman said: You must be a severe left wing nutter to spout a lie. Trump has never been convicted of rape. I hope he sues you. I suggest you amend or remove your post I didn’t say he was a convicted rapist, I said he was adjudicated a rapist: I suggest you read the attached. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/ 1
Popular Post illisdean Posted December 4, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 4, 2024 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: No, neither am an adjudicated rapist Lol. thats all you got, some civil biden obsessed judge who likely hates Trump says he's "rapist" despite no proof and NO CRIMINAL referral. But the best part may be that he didn't practice incest while showering with his daughter...that was Biden. Terrible bunch those Bidens and some impressive legacy of failure Biden can lay claim to, as most corrupt and useless president on record and those inappropriate showers with his teenage daughter... wow, you must be so proud to be a Biden supporter, if thats the case, too bad for you, 1 2
Chomper Higgot Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 Just now, illisdean said: Lol. thats all you got, some civil biden obsessed judge who likely hates Trump says he's "rapist" despite no proof and NO CRIMINAL referral. But the best part may be that he didn't practice incest while showering with his daughter...that was Biden. Terrible bunch those Bidens and some impressive legacy of failure Biden can lay claim to, as most corrupt and useless president on record and those inappropriate showers with his teenage daughter... wow, you must be so proud to be a Biden supporter, if thats the case, too bad for you, No that’s not ‘all I’ve got’ I provided a link to the judges ruling (the adjudication).
Popular Post illisdean Posted December 4, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 4, 2024 4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: I didn’t say he was a convicted rapist, I said he was adjudicated a rapist: I suggest you read the attached. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/ The jury issued a verdict, and it WAN'T rape. So, get over it and your butt-hurt. It was no worse than a "pat on the bum..." ,,,,lol, You GOT NOTHING as usual. 1 2
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