Why do "little people" vote for their executioners?

[swissie]

Globally, autocratic right wingers are being elected into office by "little people".

Don't they know that the dismantling of any Social Security Concept is high on their agenda? Their gospel as far as this is concernd is: "Let them eat s*hit and let them die".

Why do little people vote for their executioners?

[NoDisplayName]

On the another hand, why do communistic, socialist left-wing slaves vote for their plantation masters?

[novacova]

3 minutes ago, swissie said:

Why do little people vote for their executioners?

Why do little people complain about things that never happened and only live in their imagination. Maybe because they’re suffering from an abject self inflicted defeat?

[frank83628]

7 minutes ago, swissie said:

Globally, autocratic right wingers are being elected into office by "little people".

Don't they know that the dismantling of any Social Security Concept is high on their agenda? Their gospel as far as this is concernd is: "Let them eat s*hit and let them die".

Why do little people vote for their executioners?

You clearly don't understand that some people don't agree with you. They want a different route, that's what democracy is supposed to be about right? 

[swissie]

7 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

You clearly don't understand that some people don't agree with you. They want a different route, that's what democracy is supposed to be about right? 

Problem is, that those modern day "Ceasars" want to do away with democracy.

[LosLobo]

Although Stockholm syndrome is frequently referenced in hostage scenarios, it can also apply to abusive relationships such as you describe.

Stockholm syndrome - Wikipedia

[swissie]

14 minutes ago, novacova said:

Why do little people complain about things that never happened and only live in their imagination. Maybe because they’re suffering from an abject self inflicted defeat?

Some little people have to work 3 jobs to stay alive. But of course, all of this is just "self inflicted defeatism".

[theblether]

Why do left wing delusionists forget the murderous regimes of Pol Pot, Stalin and Mao? 

 

The left has murdered far more humans than the right by a country mile, not even close. 

 

But here's the fundamental problem. Left wingers think they are immune. They are and never have been immune, they are the fodder. They always have been and always will be. 

 

And here's what I have to say to the OP. Any European alive during the Soviet era should feel humiliated at posting utter drivel like this on the Internet. Truly shameful. 

 

We witnessed what the Marxists and communists did to Europe. Horrendous. And it will take at least another 50 years for Europe to recover. 

 

Shame on the OP for posting this - utter shame. 

[frank83628]

7 minutes ago, swissie said:

Problem is, that those modern day "Ceasars" want to do away with democracy.

Do you have names in particular ?

[swissie]

6 minutes ago, theblether said:

Why do left wing delusionists forget the murderous regimes of Pol Pot, Stalin and Mao? 

 

The left has murdered far more humans than the right by a country mile, not even close. 

 

But here's the fundamental problem. Left wingers think they are immune. They are and never have been immune, they are the fodder. They always have been and always will be. 

 

And here's what I have to say to the OP. Any European alive during the Soviet era should feel humiliated at posting utter drivel like this on the Internet. Truly shameful. 

 

We witnessed what the Marxists and communists did to Europe. Horrendous. And it will take at least another 50 years for Europe to recover. 

 

Shame on the OP for posting this - utter shame. 

The OP is not ashamed. The above mentioned potentates were not democratically elected. As opposed to today, where the little people elect their future autokrats into office.

[OneMoreFarang]

It seems many of those little people are angry. And they want strong-men solutions like getting rid of all those bad immigrants who only take their jobs. It does not really matter if that is true or not, if they are angry, they don't think too much and vote for easy solutions.

[swissie]

24 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Do you have names in particular ?

I rather name western european countries where autokrats (or future autokrats)) have gained massively in the recent past (worldwide the list would be too long): Russia, Hungary, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Serbia, Kroatia, Germany, France.

All riding on a wave of support by "the little people".

[blaze master]

1 hour ago, swissie said:

Problem is, that those modern day "Ceasars" want to do away with democracy.

 

Thays your opinion no matter how misguided it is. 

[swissie]

50 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

It seems many of those little people are angry. And they want strong-men solutions like getting rid of all those bad immigrants who only take their jobs. It does not really matter if that is true or not, if they are angry, they don't think too much and vote for easy solutions.

Where does the anger come from? Maybe the endless parliamentary discussions that produce nothing but "compromises" that do not adress/rectify current problems concerning little people. Getting the impression, that whatever "the government" legislates, it's in favor of the upper 5% of a society.

To some, the China/Russia syndrome might be tempting. With a stroke of a pen arising problems can be adressed/rectified, without parliamentary discussions that can last for years. Tempting for many.

Humans prefer easy solutions over complicated ones. Can be bliss or curse. Only hindsight can tell. Unfortunately.

[Walker88]

1 hour ago, NoDisplayName said:

On the another hand, why do communistic, socialist left-wing slaves vote for their plantation masters?

Who are these communists and socialist left-wingers?

 

Do you even know the meaning of the ideologies you mention? Doubtful.

 

The Biden economy boomed. It was Darwinian Capitalism, admittedly, but it boomed. Those with marketable skills and talents saw their net worth soar and their services in constant demand, reflected in the longest stretch of unemployment being below 4% in 64 years. Those left behind by the modern tech economy did not fare as well, but they will do much worse when the resurrected Misters Smoot & Hawley implement their massive tariff plan.

 

Sorry is you missed out.

 

In the meantime, the DirFBI nominee, a believer in the QAnon drivel, stated he plans to go after former government officials (who committed no crime) as well as journalists and media personalities who did not buy into the stolen election lie.

 

Now THAT^ is FASCISM by anyone's definition.

[Walker88]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

It seems many of those little people are angry. And they want strong-men solutions like getting rid of all those bad immigrants who only take their jobs. It does not really matter if that is true or not, if they are angry, they don't think too much and vote for easy solutions.

Remember the George Carlin quip:

 

"Think of how dumb the average person is. Now think half the people are dumber than that."

 

The people who missed out on the Biden Booming Economy are not going to be helped by massive tariffs, nor cutbacks in programs that supplement their income (which DOGE will slash). 47 has absolutely no solution, not even the 'concept of a plan' to address the redundancy in unskilled human labor. It is only going to get worse as AI comes online.

 

Perhaps a cult member has inside info on "a plan we'll be releasing in two weeks; some people are saying it's the most amazing plan they've ever seen". (Anyone who has listened to 45/47 knows this silly, albeit regularly issued line.)

[TedG]

2 hours ago, swissie said:

Globally, autocratic right wingers are being elected into office by "little people".

Don't they know that the dismantling of any Social Security Concept is high on their agenda? Their gospel as far as this is concernd is: "Let them eat s*hit and let them die".

Why do little people vote for their executioners?

 

This is a dumb post.  FFS. 

[MalcolmB]

Interesting.

 

The right are great with fear mongering and simple slogans that are popular with the dumb or uneducated.

 

Actual policies are too difficult for most people to comprehend so the rights slogans cut through better.

 

It would be undemocratic, but a better system would be to make people sit a test to prove they can understand policy.

The dumb masses used to vote more left than right, against “big business greed” but the right have thrown LGBTQIA, immigration and other topics in to win over the dumb masses. 
 

They outsmarted the left. Not with good policy, but with vote winning tactics 

[nauseus]

3 hours ago, swissie said:

Some little people have to work 3 jobs to stay alive. But of course, all of this is just "self inflicted defeatism".

 

Most of that has been the reward from recent socialist regimes in many western "developed" economies.

[Evil Penevil]

4 hours ago, swissie said:

Why do little people vote for their executioners?

 

Captain Obvious says:

  Because the "little people" don't agree with your take on the situation.

 

4 hours ago, LosLobo said:

Although Stockholm syndrome is frequently referenced in hostage scenarios, it can also apply to abusive relationships such as you describe.

Stockholm syndrome - Wikipedia

 

Stockholm Syndrome has nothing to do with voting in elections.  In fact, if you read the Wiki entry to which you linked, Stockholm Syndrome may not even be a real syndrome.  Basically, the response by the hostages in Sweden in 1973 was very specific to the situation in the Stockholm bank and has rarely been observed elsewhere since then.

[OneMoreFarang]

7 hours ago, swissie said:

Where does the anger come from? Maybe the endless parliamentary discussions that produce nothing but "compromises" that do not adress/rectify current problems concerning little people. Getting the impression, that whatever "the government" legislates, it's in favor of the upper 5% of a society.

To some, the China/Russia syndrome might be tempting. With a stroke of a pen arising problems can be adressed/rectified, without parliamentary discussions that can last for years. Tempting for many.

Humans prefer easy solutions over complicated ones. Can be bliss or curse. Only hindsight can tell. Unfortunately.

Good post.

 

I think the anger is often fired up by some politicians who want angry people not to think too much. And it obviously works.

[OneMoreFarang]

7 hours ago, Walker88 said:

Remember the George Carlin quip:

 

"Think of how dumb the average person is. Now think half the people are dumber than that."

 

The people who missed out on the Biden Booming Economy are not going to be helped by massive tariffs, nor cutbacks in programs that supplement their income (which DOGE will slash). 47 has absolutely no solution, not even the 'concept of a plan' to address the redundancy in unskilled human labor. It is only going to get worse as AI comes online.

 

Perhaps a cult member has inside info on "a plan we'll be releasing in two weeks; some people are saying it's the most amazing plan they've ever seen". (Anyone who has listened to 45/47 knows this silly, albeit regularly issued line.)

 

That brings another quote to my mind, I don't know who said it first.

There is an easy solution for every complex problem. And most of the time it is wrong. 

[Hanaguma]

7 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Interesting.

 

The right are great with fear mongering and simple slogans that are popular with the dumb or uneducated.

 

Actual policies are too difficult for most people to comprehend so the rights slogans cut through better.

 

It would be undemocratic, but a better system would be to make people sit a test to prove they can understand policy.

The dumb masses used to vote more left than right, against “big business greed” but the right have thrown LGBTQIA, immigration and other topics in to win over the dumb masses. 
 

They outsmarted the left. Not with good policy, but with vote winning tactics 

You must be joking.

 

Right wing fear mongering?!?  Who was bleating on and on about Hitler and fascism and no more democracy for the entire election in the US? Then, who suddenly changed their tune and went back to business as usual and "congratulations to President Elect Trump" afterwards?  It was all BS, designed purely for the election cycle.

[frank83628]

7 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Interesting.

 

The right are great with fear mongering and simple slogans that are popular with the dumb or uneducated.

 

Actual policies are too difficult for most people to comprehend so the rights slogans cut through better.

 

It would be undemocratic, but a better system would be to make people sit a test to prove they can understand policy.

The dumb masses used to vote more left than right, against “big business greed” but the right have thrown LGBTQIA, immigration and other topics in to win over the dumb masses. 
 

They outsmarted the left. Not with good policy, but with vote winning tactics 

So everyone is dumb that doesn't think like you, Or is everyone just dumb?

[Dcheech]

Its long been a right wing Republican dream to get rid of Social Security and Medicare.

I think it would be terrible if they did. However many US expats would have to leave Thailand if they S--tcanned it!   As I age I find myself less sympathetic to these two bit retirees. You wanted Trump, fine now, without your S Security, back to a MAGA dump in the USA. Try Tennessee or the Florida panhandle. 
 

[Albo]

11 hours ago, swissie said:

Globally, autocratic right wingers are being elected into office by "little people".

Don't they know that the dismantling of any Social Security Concept is high on their agenda? Their gospel as far as this is concernd is: "Let them eat s*hit and let them die".

Why do little people vote for their executioners?

 

You're not US national so I'll clue you in. The US Congress over the past decades has robbed social security it was never in a great position being a paygo institution anyway. Estimates are 2037 or before there will need to be severe cuts made in social security. Voting to preserve the status quo is voting to preserve the breakdown. Is absolutely no way that social security can be taken away from the American people. The question becomes how to equitably distribute what is there and how to perhaps find new ways to find the programs is the answer.

 

For myself I knew the system would go tits up and therefore got out as soon as I possibly could paying as little into the system as possible

 

You really shouldn't be commenting and making judgments on things that you don't know anything about tbh.

 

The crack about executioners is out of line especially with an I'll fated war in Ukraine and US allowing Israel to unalive nearly 50k little people in Palestine

[Dcheech]

32 minutes ago, Albo said:

The crack about executioners is out of line especially with an I'll fated war in Ukraine and US allowing Israel to unalive nearly 50k little people in Palestine

Russia invades the Ukraine. Hamas invades Israel. This is somehow a US war? In twisted conspiracy demented right dreams maybe, but for rational people no. 

Only place US troops involved in armed conflicts, are in the country and region jrBush invaded & destabilized, two decades back. For non existent WMD. Trashing the US's international reputation, then enhanced interrogation techniques AKA torture, completed that trash job. Republican's, a curse upon this earth. And here we go again.

 

[Liverpool Lou]

12 hours ago, swissie said:

Problem is, that those modern day "Ceasars" want to do away with democracy.

Who is it that you have in mind that wants to "do away with democracy" and has stated that as an intention?

[Liverpool Lou]

12 hours ago, swissie said:

Some little people have to work 3 jobs to stay alive. But of course, all of this is just "self inflicted defeatism".

Yes, in so many of those cases, it probably is.

[BritManToo]

12 hours ago, swissie said:

Problem is, that those modern day "Ceasars" want to do away with democracy.

Democracy hasn't worked, maybe time to try something else.