Something new in non-o (upon marriage) requirements for extension

[Dmitry2222]

Have do it few years in a row in the my local immigration.

Last two years they have started changing rules for proofs of seasoning money in a bank.

 

Previous year - local immigration requested proofing stamp on every page of the bankbook. The bank workers was amazed and decline it. So, organized a little call confrence between a person from immigration  and bank stuff. In the end - immmigration agreed to skip this requirement.

 

This year - normally requires the statement with transaction history for a two months but not in this time (it is correspond for the money seasoning rules). Now local imm authorities requested history for the last year. Bank may provide at the same day only 6 months history. For the more depth history required ~7 days. It may be a surprise if you will come to imm not in advance. More over if you just obtained NON-O visa then you have not a year history at all, so this requirement looks also foolish.

 

Hotline 1178 is useless at this case. They have approved that 2 month is quite enough, and  just proposed to follow requirements from local imm authorities.

It’s difficult to determine whether this stems from personal hostility, an attempt to push people towards using agents’ services, or something else.

[ukrules]

1 hour ago, Dmitry2222 said:

or something else

 

They make it up as they go which is why the bank refused it - they know it's nonsense.

[petedk]

Which immigration office did you use?

 

[Dmitry2222]

10 minutes ago, petedk said:

Which immigration office did you use?

Chachoengsao

[DrJack54]

1 hour ago, Dmitry2222 said:

Previous year - local immigration requested proofing stamp on every page of the bankbook.

That's incorrect. 

Which immigration office 

1 hour ago, Dmitry2222 said:

Now local imm authorities requested history for the last year.

That's not correct.

Immigration office is playing games.

Are you using income method or funds in the bank 

1 hour ago, Dmitry2222 said:

For the more depth history required ~7 days. It may be a surprise if you will come to imm not in advance.

Immigration will accept bank statement up to 7 days old.

Seems you use Bangkok Bank.

Other banks can issue 12 month bank statement on the spot.

12 month bank statement not required for money in bank method (marriage) 

1 hour ago, Dmitry2222 said:

More over if you just obtained NON-O visa then you have not a year history at all, so this requirement looks also foolish.

For you FIRST 12 month extension bank statement for both marriage and retirement is not required.

Just bank book or 3 month bank statement to show requirements have been met. 

[Dmitry2222]

 

18 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Are you using income method or funds in the bank 

 

funds in the bank

 

18 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Seems you use Bangkok Bank.

 

yes

 

18 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

For you FIRST 12 month extension bank statement for both marriage and retirement is not required.

Just bank book or 3 month bank statement to show requirements have been met.

 

My local imm office requests statement, deposit balance certificate and bank book original and copies. These documents are required every extension (since my first extension). And as mentioned above they are playing with a form how these documents should looking: statement depths, may request other proofs like stampts or special signing.

[DrJack54]

6 minutes ago, Dmitry2222 said:

My local imm office requests statement, deposit balance certificate and bank book original and copies. These documents are required every extension (since my first extension)

Most offices for the extension you are doing using money in bank method require

1. 3 month bank statement showing balance of 400k (minimum) seasoned for 2 months prior to date of application.

2. "Bank Letter" showing you as the owner of the account and balance on day of issue. 

3. Bank Book and photocopies of previous 2 months. 

Note regards 1and 3 immigration may just accept the bank book and photocopies.

4. Update of bank book on day of application. I prefer to make a deposit to show activity. This also updates the account.

 

14 minutes ago, Dmitry2222 said:

And as mentioned above they are playing with a form how these documents should looking: statement depths, may request other proofs like stampts or special signing.

No idea what that means. 

 

[Dmitry2222]

9 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

No idea what that means. 

The question is what to do when local imm wides requirements in comparison with described in official immigration sources? Hot line is not helpful at all.

[DrJack54]

26 minutes ago, Dmitry2222 said:

The question is what to do when local imm wides requirements in comparison with described in official immigration sources? Hot line is not helpful at all.

There is a saying "jump through hoops"

Your immigration office is just making it difficult for you because they can.

When they say Jump. The correct reply is "How High" 

If they want 12 months for the  bank statements just do it.

 

[harryviking]

The hypocrisy by the government is amazing! First they want us to come and then they try their best to get rid of us! Make up your minds! There are other places to go and spend our cash! Immigration is NOT a separate government, or is it??? 

[DrJack54]

2 hours ago, harryviking said:

First they want us to come and then they try their best to get rid of us! Make up your minds! There are other places to go and spend our cash! Immigration is NOT a separate government, or is it??? 

Your point? 

The OP is married to a Thai national and living in Thailand on extensions.

Easy requirements.

Even less documents for extensions retirement.

Granted immigration sometimes requests something different from previous applications

[sandyf]

23 hours ago, Dmitry2222 said:

The question is what to do when local imm wides requirements in comparison with described in official immigration sources? Hot line is not helpful at all.

At the end of the day you need to do what the IO holding the stamp asks, if you want the stamp. Even if they have made an error there is very little chance of backtracking.

"Something new" is par for the course. I have had 6 home visits and last week was the first where the witnesses had to be in the photos. I think the neighbour nearly had a bowel movement when the IO called him over - to take a photo at the gate which included the IO.

[Rob Browder]

11 hours ago, harryviking said:

The hypocrisy by the government is amazing! First they want us to come and then they try their best to get rid of us! Make up your minds! There are other places to go and spend our cash! Immigration is NOT a separate government, or is it??? 

Immigration do not want us here at all - except to collect agent-fees.  Immigration do not care about the reasons why visas/extensions for expats were created - to provide foreign income which creates Thai jobs.  They only care about their own financial-interest.   They could not care less about "Pi X" from Issan, whose business cannot survive year-round without expat customers.

 

In the case of the OP - a marriage-based extension - there is a lot of paperwork involved, then a sign-off from the district office - where "no envelope included" means more scrutiny of the local-IO's work.  Going though "all that" "for free" makes them angry - so they try to force people into another option - or just leaving Thailand.

 

On 12/16/2024 at 4:08 PM, Dmitry2222 said:

The question is what to do when local imm wides requirements in comparison with described in official immigration sources? Hot line is not helpful at all.

Move or "comply" - even if they send you out 3x more times for more "additional documents" they make up, each time you try - as happened to me, years ago, with a marriage-based extension-attempt.  

 

Sadly, the Non-O-ME visa option from Laos is now likely gone - was the best solution for under-50s.   If over-50, retirement is the way to go - using an agent if necessary, if the funds are a problem.

[LarryLEB]

I use the 800,000 Baht routine.  Every year for at least 10, I have always got a full 12-month statement from Kasikorn bank (safety first).  Never a problem.

[GroveHillWanderer]

10 minutes ago, LarryLEB said:

I use the 800,000 Baht routine.  Every year for at least 10, I have always got a full 12-month statement from Kasikorn bank (safety first).  Never a problem.

However the OP is doing extensions based on marriage. Different requirements (those listed by @DrJack54 above).

[Dmitry2222]

I'm not sure whether it was the hotline or this post that made the difference, but my next visit went smoothly. I submitted the documents, had no police visits to the home, and received the extension exactly 30 days after the consideration period ended.

[Maestro]

Dealing with officialdom,  standing one's ground in a polite but firm manner can sometimes gain oneself some respect from the officials involved. I am pleased to see that you had this positive experience.