3 hours ago, cdemundo said:

 

Just extreme tightwads?

 

 

Yep.  

 

I think you nailed it.

 

 

On 12/20/2024 at 10:26 AM, MalcolmB said:

Not everyone is nasty like you Bob.

 

 

Bob got a degree in "nasty" while in Grammar school.

 

 

20 minutes ago, In Full Agreement said:

 

 

isn't that bing a Cheep  (SP?) Charlie?

 

 

To think that usually depend what country you are from? some people, usually American's have been brainwashed since birth

Im sure my wife handed out tips on Songkran, this is not a Thai new year, I'll keep my eye on that when Songkran comes around

2 hours ago, john donson said:

they increased juristic fees from 35 to 50 baht per sqm2 so 43% increase

 

Just curious - what do you mean by "juristic fees"?

 

I pay, for the 60sqm condo I own in Phuket, the usual monthly electric (to PEA) and water (to condo) bill and that's it. And every 6 months there's a bill of just over 15k for the bldg/common areas/ upkeep/maintenance etc etc.

 

 

4 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

more brains than "tippers" id say

That is a plausible answer to the question "Why do some people decline to tip?"

 

My question was why do non-tippers feel compelled to jump in to every discussion of tipping.

Seems like some conflict there.

2 hours ago, cdemundo said:

That is a plausible answer to the question "Why do some people decline to tip?"

 

My question was why do non-tippers feel compelled to jump in to every discussion of tipping.

Seems like some conflict there.

why shouldnt they

Don't give money

Give food , fruit is good.

1 hour ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

why shouldnt they

Not saying they shouldn't.

Asking why they do.

The tipping threads aren't saying that you should tip, they are usually asking about how much to tip if you do tip.

So why do non-tippers have so much to say about those who do tip?

 

Is it because they secretly know that the reason they don't tip is that they themselves lack generosity?

On 12/20/2024 at 6:36 AM, Utalk2mutt said:

In the Amazon coffee shop I frequent on a daily basis there are 4 staff. All are excellent, helpful, friendly and always find the time for a chat. When the shop is rammed with customers I don’t even have to wait for my drink. They see me, make it straight away and hand it to me; great service. As a result of my “unintentional queue jumping” I asked one of them what their daily wage was. 300 baht was the reply so that was their tip 300 baht each. All 4 were really pleased with what I had given them. I will add they were going to get their tip anyway ignoring the fact they slip me my drink discreetly.

There is such a vast relativity between most of our incomes and what the average Thai person earns, especially in the service sector. I just think life is short and stinginess and greediness is just not something that benefits us on any level. Some guys seem to feel a sort of machismo in holding back, being tough and playing cheap. It seems to me that they've really lost the point and really lost the plot. 

 

A little bit that we give in the way of tips to show our appreciation certainly goes a long way here. 

28 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

There is such a vast relativity between most of our incomes and what the average Thai person earns, especially in the service sector. I just think life is short and stinginess and greediness is just not something that benefits us on any level. Some guys seem to feel a sort of machismo in holding back, being tough and playing cheap. It seems to me that they've really lost the point and really lost the plot. 

 

A little bit that we give in the way of tips to show our appreciation certainly goes a long way here. 

Exactly. The 4 ladies in the Amazon I use have been hard at it all year. Yes that’s what they are paid to do but I get on really well with them all and thought they deserved a reasonable tip. They were all surprised and really thankful. Those cheap Charlie’s as they are often referred to on here can do one, I do what I want with my money. I don’t tip every where I go only when in my view it’s warranted in this case it’s definately warranted.

3 hours ago, cdemundo said:

So why do non-tippers have so much to say about those who do tip?

cuz  they think theyre nuts, its  not hard to understand.

23 hours ago, BigStar said:

That you think they should do something they're morally obligated to do (because of something unsolicited you did), when you think they're obligated to do it; but then they don't and just ignore you and your sensitive feelings and your cultural imposition; means unkind to you in that instance.

 

Now you're just making things up.  I never said any of that.

 

Clutching at straws.

 

Someone not doing something kind, does not make them unkind.  You clearly don't know what these words mean.  An absence of kindness is not a presence of unkindness.  Think about.

 

23 hours ago, BigStar said:

And I noted that on those times they don't give gifts to just any people. If you happened to give a little gift to them sometime in the past, notably Christmas, for whatever reason, they have no obligation to return a gift to you. A gift isn't a loan to be repaid.

 

I don't disagree, but it still shows a one-sided relationship, where you are doing something for them and they are not doing the same for you.

 

Up to you if you want that, but let's be honest about it.

 

23 hours ago, BigStar said:

Round and round and round. You must be getting senile.

 

For the 5th time, it doesn't matter if they do, and I don't expect them to, for reasons already explained.

 

Perhaps it is you who are senile.  I never said that you expect them to.  🤦‍♂️

 

23 hours ago, BigStar said:

Irrelevant, as we're not talking about "relationships" at all. The maids in the condo mean nothing to me, and I mean nothing to them. Giving them a trivial Christmas gift doesn't change that. So I don't expect, need, or want gifts from them ever in return. They know that. I'm sure most people here agree and feel the same.

 

In personal relationships with actual friends and partners, you'd expect some kind of reciprocity.

 

You seem to be running out of "comebacks", as you appear to be simply trying to pick holes based on your misunderstanding of words.  You do have relationships with the maids in the condo, whether they actually "mean" anything to you or not.

 

23 hours ago, BigStar said:

I think you're about ready for help to get out of yet another of your bickering loops.

 

Based on the above, you're the one in a bickering loop.  You're unable to add anything, but you feel like you have to reply.  🤷‍♂️

13 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

There is such a vast relativity between most of our incomes and what the average Thai person earns, especially in the service sector. I just think life is short and stinginess and greediness is just not something that benefits us on any level. Some guys seem to feel a sort of machismo in holding back, being tough and playing cheap. It seems to me that they've really lost the point and really lost the plot. 

 

A little bit that we give in the way of tips to show our appreciation certainly goes a long way here. 

Well put:

" life is short and stinginess and greediness is just not something that benefits us on any level."

I thinking tipping is load of nonsense.

They get a salary every month like everyone else in the world.

 

They are paid to do the job as required. 

No one gave me tips in my job .....   

13 hours ago, Utalk2mutt said:

Exactly. The 4 ladies in the Amazon I use have been hard at it all year. Yes that’s what they are paid to do but I get on really well with them all and thought they deserved a reasonable tip. They were all surprised and really thankful. Those cheap Charlie’s as they are often referred to on here can do one, I do what I want with my money. I don’t tip every where I go only when in my view it’s warranted in this case it’s definately warranted.

 

I wonder if you'd be so generous and tip them if they were 4 blokes 

1 minute ago, Celsius said:

 

I wonder if you'd be so generous and tip them if they were 4 blokes 

Why would the gender make any difference? It’s the service given not gender related. So to answer your question yes I would tip the same.

22 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

To think that usually depend what country you are from? some people, usually American's have been brainwashed since birth

 

 

Sorry but I disagree.    Cheep is just Cheep.

 

 

16 minutes ago, In Full Agreement said:

Sorry but I disagree.    Cheep is just Cheep.

To use an old English saying - that's for the birds

On 12/20/2024 at 4:31 AM, scubascuba3 said:

Zero, they are paid to do that job

Aha, so Scrooge has moved to Thailand!