Motorcyclist Killed in Collision with Turning Pickup Truck in Nonthaburi

[Georgealbert]

 

Picture from responders.

 

A crash claimed the life of a young motorcyclist after a collision with a pickup truck in Bang Yai District, Nonthaburi, on the morning of December 21.

 

The incident occurred at approximately 10:00 on a road alongside the Khlong Prapa canal in Moo 10, Ban Mai Subdistrict. Police from Bang Mae Nang Police Station, along with a medical examiner from the Institute of Forensic Science and volunteers from the Poh Teck Tung Foundation, rushed to the scene after receiving the report.

 

Upon arrival, authorities found a grey Isuzu pickup truck with front-end damage, parked across the road. The motorcycle, a black-and-red Honda Click, registration from Bangkok, was lodged at the front of the pickup.

 

The motorcyclist, a man estimated to be aged 20-25, was thrown from his vehicle upon impact and died instantly. No identification documents were found on the deceased.

 

CCTV footage from the area captured the moment the accident occurred. The footage shows the pickup truck making a sudden right turn, cutting across the path of the oncoming motorcycle. The motorcyclist, travelling at speed, collided forcefully with the front of the truck, causing him to be thrown to the ground.

 

The pickup driver told police that he had been driving along the road and was turning right into a car modification shop when the motorcycle, approaching at high speed, crashed into his vehicle.

 

Police have documented the scene and taken an initial statement from the pickup driver. Further questioning of the driver and eyewitnesses will be conducted to determine the precise cause of the incident. The body of the deceased has been transferred to the Institute of Forensic Science for an autopsy.

 

Authorities have stated that the investigation is ongoing.

 

-- 2024-12-23

 

 

 

[JoePai]

when the motorcycle, approaching at high speed, crashed into his vehicle.

 

Bare faced liar, the pickup drive drove straight into the bike  🤬

[Tropicalevo]

2 hours ago, JoePai said:

when the motorcycle, approaching at high speed, crashed into his vehicle.

 

Bare faced liar, the pickup drive drove straight into the bike  🤬

 

Here on Samui, trucks, minivans, lorries etc - almost never give way to bikes.

They just pull out and expect us to stop.

I have had drivers beeping their horn and shouting at me because I did not give way and let them out of the side road.

Many bikes are blamed in accidents - for 'speeding' when it is the other driver's fault.

The only places that I have seen where bikes have half a chance of surviving are Phuket, Chiang Mai and Bangkok.

[richard_smith237]

2 hours ago, JoePai said:

when the motorcycle, approaching at high speed, crashed into his vehicle.

 

Bare faced liar, the pickup drive drove straight into the bike  🤬

 

Yes & no...    The motorcycle was approaching at what appeared in the video to be high speed. 

But, the pick-up driver also drove 'straight into' the motorcyclist. 

 

Two issues here and this is not a 'victim blame' but a criticism of the manner in which many drive and many ride. 

- The motorcyclist rode without any regard for his own safety - travelling at what appeared to be quite a speed, he would have struggled to avoid most issues when travelling at this speed on a relatively small road. 

- The Pick-up driver simply didn't see the motorcyclist, it's not completely uncommon for motorcyclists not to be seen by cars and 'we' motorcyclist 'should' be riding accordingly. 

- Or, the Pick-up driver saw the bike but made the assumption that the bike would give way - in which case he drove with reckless endangerment. 

 

The dual issue:

- Motorcyclist travelling too fast and not riding with appropriate caution.

- Pickup driver failed to see the motorcyclist or simply just didn't bother to give way.

 

Clearly 100% the pick-up drivers fault, but 'blame' is somewhat irrelevant if one is dead.

 

 

 

 

 

[MartinL]

It

9 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Yes & no...    The motorcycle was approaching at what appeared in the video to be high speed. 

But, the pick-up driver also drove 'straight into' the motorcyclist. 

 

Two issues here and this is not a 'victim blame' but a criticism of the manner in which many drive and many ride. 

- The motorcyclist rode without any regard for his own safety - travelling at what appeared to be quite a speed, he would have struggled to avoid most issues when travelling at this speed on a relatively small road. 

- The Pick-up driver simply didn't see the motorcyclist, it's not completely uncommon for motorcyclists not to be seen by cars and 'we' motorcyclist 'should' be riding accordingly. 

- Or, the Pick-up driver saw the bike but made the assumption that the bike would give way - in which case he drove with reckless endangerment. 

 

The dual issue:

- Motorcyclist travelling too fast and not riding with appropriate caution.

- Pickup driver failed to see the motorcyclist or simply just didn't bother to give way.

 

Clearly 100% the pick-up drivers fault, but 'blame' is somewhat irrelevant if one is dead.

 

It'd also be safer if Thai drivers of all descriptions didn't insist on driving the last few yards before their turn on the wrong side of the road - making their turn at 45 degrees (or less) to the junction rather than 90 so that they appear to 'drift' across the road. I see it all the time as a biker, cyclist and car driver/passenger. It's almost as if they're too lazy to turn the steering wheel or 'bars those extra few degrees or have to take the 'racing line' through even the slowest of turns. 

 

Maybe inability to judge speed of approaching vehicles comes into it, too.

[richard_smith237]

5 minutes ago, MartinL said:

It'd also be safer if Thai drivers of all descriptions didn't insist on driving the last few yards before their turn on the wrong side of the road - making their turn at 45 degrees (or less) to the junction rather than 90 so that they appear to 'drift' across the road. I see it all the time as a biker, cyclist and car driver/passenger. It's almost as if they're too lazy to turn the steering wheel or 'bars those extra few degrees or have to take the 'racing line' through even the slowest of turns. 

 

Maybe inability to judge speed of approaching vehicles comes into it, too.

 

Agreed...    Without blindly adopting local driving methods its important we (riding and driving) adapt to local driving methods and as you mention - there is a significant laziness which which many approach their manoeuvre - cutting corners, but the biggest one for me is a reluctance to brake. 

 

I see most accidents occurring when both parties are refusing to slow or brake - IF only one of the parties had been sensible, the accident would have been avoided. 

 

 

One of the things I see here is people subconsciously 'broadcasting their intentions'... not by indicating etc, but their road positioning, their hesitation, the manner in which they allow their vehicle to drift etc.. (many indicators - not 100% accurate of course, but often a good enough indication to recognise what someone might do)... 

...  Wife will be driving and I'll say to her... Careful, that car is about to change lanes and cut you off... She won't see it, but somehow its possible to 'read' the interpretation of the other drivers intention.

 

Of course - the worse one of the 'aggressive flashing of lights' as if to say... "Don't you dare pull out in front of me and make me touch the other pedal"...   It seems many drivers would rather get 'close to a crash' than to have to apply a brake pedal or slow to give space. 

 

 

 

[BarBoy]

Driving conditions are, on the whole, absolutely horrendous in Thailand.

 

You are literally taking your life in your own hands each and every time you go on the road, car or bike..

 

It will take an enormous cultural shift to change things, and with all thais thinking they are the best and most competent drivers (whilst facts show the direct opposite) - I don't think anything will change in the near future.

[KhunBENQ]

Careless pickup driver with limited visual and brain features.

Click Rider at warp speed.

Deadly encounter.

 

If all such events would be reported here it would fill a subforum.

 

[richard_smith237]

1 minute ago, BarBoy said:

Driving conditions are, on the whole, absolutely horrendous in Thailand.

 

You are literally taking your life in your own hands each and every time you go on the road, car or bike..

 

It will take an enormous cultural shift to change things, and with all thais thinking they are the best and most competent drivers (whilst facts show the direct opposite) - I don't think anything will change in the near future.

 

Not quite: 

If you remove motorcyclists from the road stats - the road fatalities per 100,000 of population is actually less than the USA - there are other factors such as mileage covered etc...  but the raw stat suggests that for vehicles other than motorcyclist the 'danger' is not as high as you suggest. 

 

For motorcyclists - the stats are horrific, but when you unwrap why and who most of these accidents happen to, we see that those extreme stats are not representative of the risks careful and experienced riders would face as an individual.

i.e. by removing the following (Below) from the aggregate statistic the level of high danger you suggest is somewhat softened.

- those riding while drunk. 

- those riding without helmets

- those riding at night

- those speeding

- the night time street racers

- hose riding while high (Yabba etc)

 

To explain that further - a young kid who'll ride without a helmet, drunk while speeding at night is clearly in a far higher risk category than I, who rides only in the day time, never while drunk, never speeding, riding defensively, full helmet & jacket etc...   we are in a far lower risk profile. 

 

Thats not to say there is no risk or that the risk is the same as our home countries - just that the statistics are not truly representative of the risk careful riders face because the 'bell curve' has been shifted so significantly by those who are reckless.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Gottfrid]

51 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Yes & no...    The motorcycle was approaching at what appeared in the video to be high speed. 

But, the pick-up driver also drove 'straight into' the motorcyclist. 

 

Two issues here and this is not a 'victim blame' but a criticism of the manner in which many drive and many ride. 

- The motorcyclist rode without any regard for his own safety - travelling at what appeared to be quite a speed, he would have struggled to avoid most issues when travelling at this speed on a relatively small road. 

- The Pick-up driver simply didn't see the motorcyclist, it's not completely uncommon for motorcyclists not to be seen by cars and 'we' motorcyclist 'should' be riding accordingly. 

- Or, the Pick-up driver saw the bike but made the assumption that the bike would give way - in which case he drove with reckless endangerment. 

 

The dual issue:

- Motorcyclist travelling too fast and not riding with appropriate caution.

- Pickup driver failed to see the motorcyclist or simply just didn't bother to give way.

 

Clearly 100% the pick-up drivers fault, but 'blame' is somewhat irrelevant if one is dead.

 

 

 

 

 

hanks for the education and lesson, once again.

[richard_smith237]

1 hour ago, Gottfrid said:

hanks for the education and lesson, once again.

 

You're welcome, I know some people such as yourself struggle with basic concepts and variables of driving over here....   There's plenty of input of many more posters who can help you familiarise yourself with local conditions making yourself less of a danger to those around you.

 

 

[lordgrinz]

22 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Yes & no...    The motorcycle was approaching at what appeared in the video to be high speed. 

But, the pick-up driver also drove 'straight into' the motorcyclist. 

 

Two issues here and this is not a 'victim blame' but a criticism of the manner in which many drive and many ride. 

- The motorcyclist rode without any regard for his own safety - travelling at what appeared to be quite a speed, he would have struggled to avoid most issues when travelling at this speed on a relatively small road. 

- The Pick-up driver simply didn't see the motorcyclist, it's not completely uncommon for motorcyclists not to be seen by cars and 'we' motorcyclist 'should' be riding accordingly. 

- Or, the Pick-up driver saw the bike but made the assumption that the bike would give way - in which case he drove with reckless endangerment. 

 

The dual issue:

- Motorcyclist travelling too fast and not riding with appropriate caution.

- Pickup driver failed to see the motorcyclist or simply just didn't bother to give way.

 

Clearly 100% the pick-up drivers fault, but 'blame' is somewhat irrelevant if one is dead.

 

I'd be willing to bet the motorcycle accelerated just as he saw the turning pickup truck as well, which is a common occurrence here. Not sure Thai's understand this, but accelerating into a dangerous situation is not going to help, especially while riding a motorcycle.

[lordgrinz]

21 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

- those riding while drunk. 

- those riding without helmets

- those riding at night

- those speeding

- the night time street racers

- hose riding while high (Yabba etc)

 

- those riding without a license

- those riding without any formal training

[Liverpool Lou]

On 12/23/2024 at 7:36 AM, JoePai said:

when the motorcycle, approaching at high speed, crashed into his vehicle.

 

Bare faced liar, the pickup drive drove straight into the bike  🤬

Where is the CCTV that you must have viewed, can you link it here for the rest of us who get the notice "x.com refused to connect" when trying to open the x.com link?   

[JoePai]

52 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Where is the CCTV that you must have viewed, can you link it here for the rest of us who get the notice "x.com refused to connect" when trying to open the x.com link?   

Just click on the link attached in the post and it plays

[lordgrinz]

I believe this is right by my daughters school, it is not a road for speeding (unless you have a death wish), its a very narrow road. It is where motorcycles speed through, and ignore traffic laws at road intersections (its illegal to overtake within 30 meters of a junction/intersection), they even travel at highspeed down the center lane between oncoming traffic, surprised there aren't more deaths. I would say that road is probably the worst I have ever seen here in Thailand for people breaking all known traffic laws. I and multiple others have complained, they do have an officer outside the school entrance, but even he seems ineffective, and does nothing to enforce the rules.

[Liverpool Lou]

5 hours ago, JoePai said:

6 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Where is the CCTV that you must have viewed, can you link it here for the rest of us who get the notice "x.com refused to connect" when trying to open the x.com link?   

Just click on the link attached in the post and it plays

It doesn't, hence my  "x.com refused to connect" comment!

[JoePai]

17 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

It doesn't, hence my  "x.com refused to connect" comment!

You must have a problem with your browser - I am using Edge for this 

[Gottfrid]

On 12/23/2024 at 12:34 PM, richard_smith237 said:

 

You're welcome, I know some people such as yourself struggle with basic concepts and variables of driving over here....   There's plenty of input of many more posters who can help you familiarise yourself with local conditions making yourself less of a danger to those around you.

 

 

First, you don´t know me. Second, I have absolutely no problem driving in Thailand or anywhere in the world. 36 years on the roads and never an accident. So, the only danger here is you, that draw assumptions far too quick.

[Bangkok Black]

On 12/23/2024 at 10:33 AM, richard_smith237 said:

 

Yes & no...    The motorcycle was approaching at what appeared in the video to be high speed. 

But, the pick-up driver also drove 'straight into' the motorcyclist. 

 

Two issues here and this is not a 'victim blame' but a criticism of the manner in which many drive and many ride. 

- The motorcyclist rode without any regard for his own safety - travelling at what appeared to be quite a speed, he would have struggled to avoid most issues when travelling at this speed on a relatively small road. 

- The Pick-up driver simply didn't see the motorcyclist, it's not completely uncommon for motorcyclists not to be seen by cars and 'we' motorcyclist 'should' be riding accordingly. 

- Or, the Pick-up driver saw the bike but made the assumption that the bike would give way - in which case he drove with reckless endangerment. 

 

The dual issue:

- Motorcyclist travelling too fast and not riding with appropriate caution.

- Pickup driver failed to see the motorcyclist or simply just didn't bother to give way.

 

Clearly 100% the pick-up drivers fault, but 'blame' is somewhat irrelevant if one is dead.

 

 

 

 

 

Agree with this

 

Also to add to the mix, 

thai people never think about the "what could happen" its all "who gives a <deleted>"  all the time.

 

[Bangkok Black]

On 12/24/2024 at 9:13 AM, lordgrinz said:

 

- those riding without a license

- those riding without any formal training

or in other words every other rider