Dutch tourist allegedly escapes bills and steals from many Phuket hotels

[daejung]

4 hours ago, Shocked farang said:

After a week went by and it was time for me to wash the sheets on the bed,

Wash by hand as the Washing machine didn't work ?

[DualSportBiker]

15 hours ago, Airalee said:

Back in 2015 or so I stayed at an AirBnb in Bangkok (reserved the room for a month) and upon arrival, the cable tv, washing machine and the light in the bathroom didn’t work.  The owner kept dragging their feet and would have the building chang come and “look”…but nothing was fixed.  After a week went by and it was time for me to wash the sheets on the bed, when I took them off, there were blood and urine stains literally all over the mattress.  It was awful.  I took pictures and then decided to contact AirBnB and asked to cancel.   The owner fought it but as AirBnB had photos of the mattress (which they agreed was unacceptable) they refunded the remainder of my stay but not the whole thing.  I was completely ok with that.

 

I find it hard to believe that a guest can stay the whole time and then complain on the last day of their stay and get a full refund as the article interviewee claims.  
 

Maybe things have changed since my stay but I just can’t see where AirBnB wouldn’t have just said “you should have notified us as soon as there was a problem”.

My wife and I have two apartments listed on AirBnB. Most guests are a pleasure to host. However there are whiny complainers that game the system. We had one muppet who booked two months, got a discount because of that, then cancelled the second month yet expected the price per day to remain the same. When AirBnB charged him for 30 days at the original date, he unloaded on us about how we should hand over the difference as compensation for his inconvenience! He threatened us with bad reviews and when told that reviews were a contentious space here, accused us of threats, unloaded on the phone to AirBnB support and left a bad review at the last minute so we could not respond. However hard you may find it, there are people who actively aim to game the system to get free and discounted stuff.

[toho]

15 hours ago, bubblegum said:

Dutch. The Netherlands. On average more polite and less likely to cause a stir compared to most Western countries. Maybe you should think before posting.

Agree. In general Dutch tourists behave well. But every country has its pencils, that are not the sharpest.

[sambum]

5 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Crikey, the Dutch are competing with the Brits and Aussies for the top bad boy behaviour. 

 

Another Dutch guy made the headlines yesterday for riding his bike like a fool on Koh Samui 

 

You forgot the Russkies? They're doing their fair share of trouble making, or did you only think to have  English speaking "bad boys" on your list?

[renaissanc]

Foreigners who do this sort of thing obviously don't know that they will be caught eventually and then deported after jail time followed by time in a hellish airport detention centre, which can be limitless if they cannot get someone to buy an air ticket for them. 

[Andrew65]

16 hours ago, bubblegum said:

Dutch. The Netherlands. On average more polite and less likely to cause a stir compared to most Western countries. Maybe you should think before posting.

Many years ago I had a colleague from New Zealand. She said that many Dutch emigres had settled in her home town, and they had a reputation for being a bit 'tight' with money.

[Andrew65]

4 hours ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Never trust Canadian vloggers to recommend beaches in Thailand...

 

Compared to Canada, every trash filled, stone laden, jellyfish packed, underwater hazard beach is Paradise.

 

Just because it's not frozen like beaches back dere in Yukon oh don't you know. 😀

Some years ago a guy from Whitehorse, Yukon posted the local weather conditions there in January on Facebook, it was -40C.

[Airalee]

2 hours ago, DualSportBiker said:

My wife and I have two apartments listed on AirBnB. Most guests are a pleasure to host. However there are whiny complainers that game the system. We had one muppet who booked two months, got a discount because of that, then cancelled the second month yet expected the price per day to remain the same. When AirBnB charged him for 30 days at the original date, he unloaded on us about how we should hand over the difference as compensation for his inconvenience! He threatened us with bad reviews and when told that reviews were a contentious space here, accused us of threats, unloaded on the phone to AirBnB support and left a bad review at the last minute so we could not respond. However hard you may find it, there are people who actively aim to game the system to get free and discounted stuff.

Sorry to hear that.   People who pull the “complain to get a discount” game suck.   Stories like yours are why I won’t Airbnb my condo when out of the country.

[shackleton]

Would have  thought the person booking in would have to show their passport which the hotel usually photocopies 

So should not take long in catching the guy 🤡  and extending

his stay in Thailand 🇹🇭 

[rudi49jr]

Jeez, the Dutch are at it again. First that guy on the motocy in Samui, now this guy in Phuket. For such a small country, they produce quite a few antisocial a-holes who spoil it for the rest of us. Really makes me proud to be Dutch. Not. 

[ChiangmaiMax]

21 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

Sadly, that is become more and more common.

AirBnb invariably sides with the guest - not the host.

The guest is their customer. The host is their supplier.

 

[ChiangmaiMax]

We had the same problems with Airbnb so we dumped them only problems 

[Nickcage49]

Room keys? What? Why?

[baansgr]

On 12/23/2024 at 4:32 PM, snoop1130 said:

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Photo via Facebook/ Phuket Times ภูเก็ตไทม์

 

By Petch Petpailin

 

A Dutch tourist reportedly evaded paying bills and stole room keys, along with other items, from several hotels in Phuket but remains at large.

 

The Facebook page Phuket Times reported on Saturday, December 21, issuing a warning to hotels in Phuket…

 

“Naughty tourist! He stayed at multiple hotels in Phuket and left without paying. He even stole the room key from each hotel.”

 

The page added in the comments section that the man in question was a Dutch national who was also accused of stealing hotel belongings and other items.

 

Many Thai netizens shared their opinions on the post, with some recounting their own experiences of being victimised by foreign tourists in Phuket. Comments included…

 

 

 

“Some stay until their last day and then start complaining about the accommodation to claim their money back. They just want free stuff.”

 

“He might think that security cameras in Thailand are often broken, so he dares to commit crimes.”

 

“I run an Airbnb, and I’ve had guests stay until the last day of their booking, complain to me, and report my property to the platform until I was forced to issue a refund.”

 

“Foreign tourists know that Thais often indulge foreigners, so they think they can get away with anything.”

 

Other netizens criticised hotel owners for being reckless and failing to collect payment from guests in advance. As of now, the Dutchman remains at large. There has been no confirmation on whether if local police have taken any action in regard to the incident.

 

Source: The Thaiger

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Ole cloggy yet again

[NativeBob]

"Flying Dutchman"

[Ironmike]

If this guy is doing this,, then I want to know what geniuses at this news paper need to blur his face so you can not recognise him

[Chalong circle]

13 hours ago, grubman said:

What an absolute loser, but what i don't understand, all hotels that I have  stayed in Thailand  take the room charges before you check in and if it is a physical key they take a deposit for the key....  

Same for me. Not understand and not believe one minute that they do not ask any money at check in.

[London Lowf]

16 minutes ago, Chalong circle said:

if it is a physical key they take a deposit for the key....  

 

I've stayed in over thirty hotels in Thailand - Phuket and Buriram - and never paid a deposit for either a metal or electronic key. However, it's not rare to pay a deposit for mini bar or damage.

 

I've never been given a room key without either cash in advance or credit card details on file. Also, isn't it a legal requirement for hotels to lodge a TM30 and thus have the guys passport details? In these cases it would seem that the victims need to accept part of the blame.

[still kicking]

22 minutes ago, Chalong circle said:

Same for me. Not understand and not believe one minute that they do not ask any money at check in.

I never paid anything till I moved out just provided a copy of my passport 

[London Lowf]

1 minute ago, still kicking said:

I never paid anything till I moved out just provided a copy of my passport 

 

We clearly live in different universes - mine is called booking.com 😉

[still kicking]

4 minutes ago, London Lowf said:

 

We clearly live in different universes - mine is called booking.com 😉

So is mine 

[Chalong circle]

Yes sure. You arrive in an hotel, and they dont ask you to pay or give a credit card print. And not ask your passport in the case of the dutch guy. You are welcome !

[Pompeygeezer]

13 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

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Attention-seeking, Lack of reliability, Inflated sense of self-importance, and An exaggerated sense of self. That does describe most Thais TBF

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[ryxyz]

On 12/23/2024 at 4:12 AM, Tropicalevo said:

Sadly, that is become more and more common.

AirBnb invariably sides with the guest - not the host.

The guest is their customer. The host is their supplier.

Yep! Lots of my acquaintances stopped running aidbnb in the US because of the scams. 

[Liverpool Lou]

On 12/23/2024 at 7:24 PM, MalcolmB said:

If the thais keep giving easy visas to people from these countries this is what will happen.

They gave an "easy visa" to you, why shouldn't they apply the same rules to Europeans?

[Liverpool Lou]

5 hours ago, Ironmike said:

If this guy is doing this,, then I want to know what geniuses at this news paper need to blur his face so you can not recognise him

Because (a) he may have a right to anonymity until he's been tried and found guilty and (b) no one is asking the readers of this forum to look for him.

[Liverpool Lou]

4 hours ago, London Lowf said:

I've stayed in over thirty hotels in Thailand - Phuket and Buriram - and never paid a deposit for either a metal or electronic key. However, it's not rare to pay a deposit for mini bar or damage.

 

I've never been given a room key without either cash in advance or credit card details on file.

Make up your mind, which one is it?...

"...I've ... never paid a deposit for either a metal or electronic key".

 

"...I've never been given a room key without either cash in advance or credit card details...".

 

Paying cash in advance or CC is a deposit!

 

 

[London Lowf]

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Make up your mind, which one is it?...

"...I've ... never paid a deposit for either a metal or electronic key".

 

"...I've never been given a room key without either cash in advance or credit card details...".

 

Paying cash in advance or CC is a deposit!

 

 

 

A key deposit is refundable, cash in advance or credit card details are not - okay?

 

Or do you want to argue further in keeping with your reputaion on here?