Why some of us did not get COVID symptoms …even though we were exposed.

[Airalee]

26 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Time and again the 'expert credible sources' have been shown to be wrong.  How many times have we read that doctors were 'baffled' when the facts showed that the outcomes of their interventions (which they arrogantly touted as the One and Only truth) turned out to be disastrous.

‘Expert credible sources’ weren’t only wrong.  They suppressed already known science

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16115318/

 

 

[impulse]

4 minutes ago, Airalee said:

‘Expert credible sources’ weren’t only wrong.  They suppressed already known science

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16115318/

 

2 birds with one stone.  They got to make Trump look like an idiot for suggesting HCQ (which was the standard hospital treatment at the time), and allowed the EUA for the mRNA gene therapy to proceed.  Had there been a proven effective therapy, there would have been no EUA.

 

[Airalee]

Jim Breuer said it best

 

 

[atpeace]

9 hours ago, Airalee said:

You too?

 

Getting Covid after your vaccination?  Did you ever have it before vaccination?

 

I too was wondering why the media never told people to “focus on their health” or anything that promoted a healthy lifestyle….well….no….actually I didn’t wonder at all.
 

Because the only answer was to get the jab. 🫤

 

 

I never got Covid before the jab but I was not around people other than my wife. We got Covid soon after I started mixing with people in May of 2022 and my second jab.  

 

Went out for New Years last night and most the people in the restaurant were pathetically unhealthy. It was just an observation but definitely don't feel they should be forced to be healthy.  Their choice but the government forcing me to get vaccinated because of them was frustrating.  Then on top of it the AN vaccine tyrants ignoring the science and telling me health wasn't an issue. 

 

Next virus that impacts certain segments of society recommendations: Focus on those segments!  If 99% of the efforts put into stopping the spread would have been on city dwellers that are unhealthy the virus IMO would have been much more manageable for all of society.

 

Funny how some now want to move past Covid and not look at what went wrong.  I wonder why 🙂

[Hawaiian]

52 minutes ago, Airalee said:

Maybe the vaccine made it worse.  
 

More vaccinated people were dying than unvaccinated as the vaccination rates went up.  And then, when it got so bad, they stopped disclosing vaccination status of those who died.

 

Next!

Maybe there weren't that many unvaccinated people left.  The fact is no one knows for sure and the world will most likely never know.  And hiding and manipulating statistics is really criminal.  Same thing goes for the origin of the virus.  

 

 

[Airalee]

8 minutes ago, atpeace said:

Funny how some now want to move past Covid and not look at what went wrong.  I wonder why 🙂

Which fear is more powerful for the sleeve-rollers?

 

The fear of Covid where they “trusted the science” to the point of wanting the unvaccinated segregated from society and lining up for the jab….

 

or the fear that they currently have now that they are potential ticking time bombs?

[Hawaiian]

5 minutes ago, atpeace said:

I never got Covid before the jab but I was not around people other than my wife. We got Covid soon after I started mixing with people in May of 2022 and my second jab.  

 

Went out for New Years last night and most the people in the restaurant were pathetically unhealthy. It was just an observation but definitely don't feel they should be forced to be healthy.  Their choice but the government forcing me to get vaccinated because of them was frustrating.  Then on top of it the AN vaccine tyrants ignoring the science and telling me health wasn't an issue. 

 

Next virus that impacts certain segments of society recommendations: Focus on those segments!  If 99% of the efforts put into stopping the spread would have been on city dwellers that are unhealthy the virus IMO would have been much more manageable for all of society.

 

Funny how some now want to move past Covid and not look at what went wrong.  I wonder why 🙂

IF the Chinese had not allowed the virus to escape the country maybe things might have been more manageable, too.  They only attempted to protect their own population.  Then it came back with a vengeance and the CCP resorted to all sorts of inhumane controls which backfired. 

[Airalee]

10 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

Maybe there weren't that many unvaccinated people left.

Oh…there were plenty.  Tens of millions.

 

13 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

The fact is no one knows for sure and the world will most likely never know.

They know.  Your mental gymnastics show your own doubt of the science.

 

14 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

And hiding and manipulating statistics is really criminal. 

Why didn’t you speak out before?  

[atpeace]

1 minute ago, Hawaiian said:

Maybe there weren't that many unvaccinated people left.  The fact is no one knows for sure and the world will most likely never know.  And hiding and manipulating statistics is really criminal.  Same thing goes with the origin of the virus.  

 

 

Enjoy your posts in regards to vaccination.   Might disagree with some of what you state but you are capable of seeing the other sides perspective which a group of vaccination advocates here on AN during 2020-2023 were incapable. 

 

Honestly, I have never experienced such vitriol from any group in my life that compared to the vaccination crowd here on AN.  They were IMO weak individuals that used ( many unknowingly ) social group dynamics to  became strong in their demented minds.  As a group they were able to diminish any discussion that was contrary to what the group deemed acceptable.  Wish more of them possessed your character.

[Red Phoenix]

21 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

2 birds with one stone.  They got to make Trump look like an idiot for suggesting HCQ (which was the standard hospital treatment at the time), and allowed the EUA for the mRNA gene therapy to proceed.  Had there been a proven effective therapy, there would have been no EUA.

 

Yes, most people don't realize that that the demonization of PROVEN effective treatments of Covid with HCQ or Ivermectin, was pushed by Big Pharma, because when an alternative treatment was allowed the mRNA gene therapy would not have gotten EUA approval. 

And so HCQ and Ivermectin which for ages had been used for treating humans with billions of doses being administered, suddenly became 'injecting bleach' and 'using horse-dewormer'.  Imo this was probably the most successful dis-information propaganda campaign ever run by Big Pharma. 

And it's actually amazing and mildly depressing that they pulled this off.  Goes to show that they think you are stupid, gullible and blindly obedient, and unfortunately they were proven right on that one...

[atpeace]

7 minutes ago, Airalee said:

Which fear is more powerful for the sleeve-rollers?

 

The fear of Covid where they “trusted the science” to the point of wanting the unvaccinated segregated from society and lining up for the jab….

 

or the fear that they currently have now that they are potential ticking time bombs?

I simply want to be able to make my own choice in the future about vaccination. There is a place for forced vaccination in EXTREME situations such as the virus like the Bubonic Plague but Covid -555. 

 

 I haven't seen any real evidence IMO that the vaccinated are ticking time bombs but my thrice ( it might have been two or possibly 4.  I just did it so I could do what I wanted and no other reason) pricked arm might  impact my stance 🙂

[Red Phoenix]

9 minutes ago, atpeace said:

Enjoy your posts in regards to vaccination.   Might disagree with some of what you state but you are capable of seeing the other sides perspective which a group of vaccination advocates here on AN during 2020-2023 were incapable. 

 

Honestly, I have never experienced such vitriol from any group in my life that compared to the vaccination crowd here on AN.  They were IMO weak individuals that used ( many unknowingly ) social group dynamics to  became strong in their demented minds.  As a group they were able to diminish any discussion that was contrary to what the group deemed acceptable.  Wish more of them possessed your character.

You forgot to mention that they got a 'little help from my friends' in squashing the discussion and any non-narrative accepted viewpoints. 

[Hawaiian]

10 minutes ago, Airalee said:

Oh…there were plenty.  Tens of millions.

 

They know.  Your mental gymnastics show your own doubt of the science.

 

Why didn’t you speak out before?  

I have never approved of hiding and manipulating statistics.

 

Tens of millions.  I was being facetious by using a supposition.

[atpeace]

5 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

You forgot to mention that they got a 'little help from my friends' in squashing the discussion and any non-narrative accepted viewpoints. 

No - I was just being careful 🙂 I'm still scarred  from that group you are referring to above that were anything but impartial and at times were cowards.

[Gottfrid]

On 12/29/2024 at 9:10 AM, Red Phoenix said:

 

Source: https://drkevinstillwagon.substack.com/p/why-some-of-us-did-not-get-covid

 

= = =

My comment > Not only does this article explain in easy to understand language WHY some people - like myself - never experienced any COVID symptoms, but it also helps understand the harm you inflicted on yourself when you tricked your immune system by injecting the mRNA 'vax' straight into your blood-stream thereby bypassing your natural defense system. 

Mind you, these are not 'new insights' but is basic immunology and has been known - and then conveniently 'forgotten' - long before the Big Pharma sorcerer apprentices unleashed their PP (profitable poison) on the world population. 

 

= = =

Just about everyone will admit that most of us have encountered something that resulted in a collection of disease symptoms that we called COVID. But about 30% of us never got those symptoms. Why? The answer is in our immune systems that keep us in harmony with the environment and whatever is in it. Call these environmental exposures whatever you want, parasites, toxins, bacteria, viruses, obelisks, exosomes, exogenous genetic material pushed around by electromagnetic frequences, it doesn’t matter. The key is this; the environmental exposure must get IN you to affect you. So, unless you take a needle and shove it directly in, it’s going to have to come through your epithelial barrier that separates the inside of you from the outside. There are biological and molecular explanations for how these things can get through the barrier, but know this: When they do come through the barrier naturally, your immune system, unless you tamper with it by directly injecting stuff, will remember the exposure, whether or not you had symptoms, and will protect you against future exposures for the rest of your life. If this didn't happen, we’d never have immunity to anything, ever.

 

Edited to fair use

Source: https://drkevinstillwagon.substack.com/p/why-some-of-us-did-not-get-covid

That´s just not news!

[Airalee]

11 minutes ago, atpeace said:

There is a place for forced vaccination in EXTREME situations such as the virus like the Bubonic Plague

My body my choice

[Airalee]

13 minutes ago, atpeace said:

 I haven't seen any real evidence IMO that the vaccinated are ticking time bombs

Seems like they’re the ones who get Covid over and over.  Studies are also showing that the spike protein isn’t leaving peoples bodies.  As they get older and their already hijacked immune systems get even weaker will they be the ones who die from the common flu?

[Airalee]

18 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

I have never approved of hiding and manipulating statistics.

Did you say anything here when it came out that Pfizer wanted 75 years to release their test data?

 

At least you (from what I can see in your post history) didn’t pile on the unvaccinated like so many others did.

 

But perhaps now is the time to do some research into what all the people who were cancelled, smeared etc. have been saying all along.   You’ll just have to go to other sites than google and YouTube to find that information.

[mdr224]

When it was happening thai people thought getting vaxxed was a privilege, especially with something other than sinovac

[dinsdale]

21 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

You forgot to mention that they got a 'little help from my friends' in squashing the discussion and any non-narrative accepted viewpoints. 

Restricting freedom of speech to only that which agreed with the narrative was certainly part of the plan. A very big part of it I would suggest. Pushed by CDC, pushed by legacy media etc. this has to be the 2nd greatest con job of all time and I'm NOT saying Covid isn't real. It is. It was made in and escaped from the Wuhan lab. Religion is still a clear 1st greatest con of all time.

[Airalee]

3 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

It was made in and escaped from the Wuhan lab.

Escaped?  Or released?

 

one will never know.

[Hawaiian]

10 minutes ago, Airalee said:

Did you say anything here when it came out that Pfizer wanted 75 years to release their test data?

 

At least you (from what I can see in your post history) didn’t pile on the unvaccinated like so many others did.

 

But perhaps now is the time to do some research into what all the people who were cancelled, smeared etc. have been saying all along.   You’ll just have to go to other sites than google and YouTube to find that information.

 

I didn't comment because I did not see that about Pfizer. 

 

Doing research today is such a chore because of so much conflicting information with everyone having their own agenda and in most cases, biases.  Also adding to the confusion is AI which is being used for nefarious purposes.

One source that I have no trust in is the CDC.  It's no secret that it is controlled by Big Pharma. And Fauci, he has rarely told the truth.

 

[atpeace]

1 minute ago, Airalee said:

Seems like they’re the ones who get Covid over and over.  Studies are also showing that the spike protein isn’t leaving peoples bodies.  As they get older and their already hijacked immune systems get even weaker will they be the ones who die from the common flu?

Time will tell if the vaccination or die crowd lets society and "science" revisit all the mistakes that were made and there were many.  At this point, as shown on this thread, they would rather move on and insult others that would rather look into what might be avoided next go around. 

 

They never cared about the truth which to this day baffles me.  Unlike yourself, I think they had some logic that backed their believes but their disgusting assault on any dissent was deplorable. 

 

Looking back, I feel some empathy for many of them for some reason.  They were weak and scared individuals that found strength in numbers and as a group lost their way.  These feeble tyrants were probably timid in offline interactions pre Covid but what they became was borderline evil.  

[wombat]

i keep saying my unvaxed blood is for sale on social media...havent had a msg.

[Airalee]

7 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

I didn't comment because I did not see that about Pfizer. 

Doing research today is such a chore because of so much conflicting information with everyone having their own agenda and in most cases, biases.  Also adding to the confusion is AI which is being used for nefarious purposes.

Turn off your television and try getting your info from sources who don’t get their funding from big pharma.

 

 

[impulse]

33 minutes ago, Airalee said:

My body my choice

 

Seems like the appropriate way to protect Grandma was to give her the shot, not force everyone else to take it.

 

Provided, of course, that the shot worked.  But then, if it didn't work...  Why would you force people to take it?

 

$$$

[Hawaiian]

1 minute ago, Airalee said:

Turn off your television and try getting your info from sources who don’t get their funding from big pharma.

 

 

I don't own a TV and only watch it online for local news.

[atpeace]

13 minutes ago, mdr224 said:

When it was happening thai people thought getting vaxxed was a privilege, especially with something other than sinovac

Definately had that vibe in small town Isaan.  This town isn't to small and probably 5k including the surrounding villages.  They were all in on they deadly virus suppression.  Facilities were popping up all through the jungle to house the infected.  Thousands of beds - 555. 

 

What a waste of resources that could have been spent suppressing the spread where it was happening.  In densely populated areas.  Out of the previous mentioned 5,000 people in the area, not one death that I know of and I asked around.  My brother in law is the village head and he knows other village heads.  They would know but the answer was always nobody has died of Covid. There was one if you include an  obese  drunk in one of the villages that did have Covid and died but he had almost died a dozen times before Covid.

[Red Phoenix]

1 minute ago, wombat said:

i keep saying my unvaxed blood is for sale on social media...havent had a msg.

The issue you raise here is another scandal, mainly that blood-banks worldwide are contaminated with 'vaxxed' blood. 

When donating blood you were requested not to do this within 14 days after being jabbed.  But after that all the blood they received was mixed according to blood-group, without taking into account whether it came from mRNA vaxxed or unvaxxed donors.  And it is proven now that the toxic spike-protein remains in your blood for a very long time (possible indefinitely, as they found it in people's blood 700 days after their last jab). 

That not keeping track procedure (because 'science') has resulted in alternative blood-banks now being set up solely for donors with unvaxxed blood.  But of course the overwhelming majority of blood being used for transfusions is from the contaminated stock. 

[Airalee]

1 minute ago, impulse said:

Why would you force people to take it?

Maybe even more nefarious reasons than money perhaps?

 

Of course, saying something like that makes me a conspiracy theorist.

 

it reminds me of a joke I have heard.

 

“What’s the difference between a conspiracy theory and facts?

 

About 6 months”