Trump Reiterates Warning to Hamas on Hostage Release

[Nick Carter icp]

30 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

No thanks....... just the consequences Mr Trump is intending to exact if Hamas don't comply.

 

Thank you.

 

   Trump just says that the people responsible will pay a high rice .

Sounds like hes saying he will kill Irans leaders if they don't release the hostages 

[Will B Good]

27 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Trump just says that the people responsible will pay a high rice .

Sounds like hes saying he will kill Irans leaders if they don't release the hostages 

 

 

So targeted killings of those thought to be responsible......but not the footsoldiers, the guys at the top!!!.....cheers.

[Nick Carter icp]

18 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

So targeted killings of those thought to be responsible......but not the footsoldiers, the guys at the top!!!.....cheers.

 

   Once again, Trump said those responsible for holding the hostages , not just the people at the top , EVERYONE

[Will B Good]

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Once again, Trump said those responsible for holding the hostages , not just the people at the top , EVERYONE

 

Hard to imagine they have the intel on lowly foot soldiers.......even if they knew their 'names'......how would they ever track them?

[Nick Carter icp]

14 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Hard to imagine they have the intel on lowly foot soldiers.......even if they knew their 'names'......how would they ever track them?

 

   Israel knows who they are and where they are .

Israel knew who their Hezbollah brothers were in the North , knew who they were and where they were , even managed to give them all a pager each 

[candide]

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Israel knows who they are and where they are .

Israel knew who their Hezbollah brothers were in the North , knew who they were and where they were , even managed to give them all a pager each 

Isn't Israel already willing and able to get them, irrespective of whatever Trump may say?

They didn't need him to eliminate Hamas and Hezbollah leaders (and others members).

[Nick Carter icp]

20 minutes ago, candide said:

Isn't Israel already willing and able to get them, irrespective of whatever Trump may say?

They didn't need him to eliminate Hamas and Hezbollah leaders (and others members).

 

  Biden requested/ordered Israel to show restraint .

Trump wants Israel  to get in there and finish the job

[Chomper Higgot]

11 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Biden requested/ordered Israel to show restraint .

Trump wants to get in there and finish the job

Trump isn’t getting anyone into Gaza.

 

 

[candide]

9 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Biden requested/ordered Israel to show restraint .

Trump wants to get in there and finish the job

Did Biden ask Israel not to kill Hamas and Hezbollah members, or just to avoid killing other Palestinians?

[Jim Blue]

On 1/2/2025 at 10:18 AM, Purdey said:

I think Hamas is waiting to hear from Musk. They want the organ grinder not the monkey. 

Tesla factory in Gaza   ?

[Nick Carter icp]

4 minutes ago, candide said:

Did Biden ask Israel not to kill Hamas and Hezbollah members, or just to avoid killing other Palestinians?

 

   Read it here :

 

Biden warns Netanyahu against major Rafah offensive as divide between the 2 leaders grows

 

https://apnews.com/article/biden-netanyahu-gaza-rafah-d85423ad066fe41ac5783db5bd9ecffd

 

[Nick Carter icp]

On 1/5/2025 at 11:48 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m not as sure of the future as you appear to be, certainly when it comes to anything based upon statements from Trump.

 

There’s the dual problem of, is he going to deliver on anything he promises and, in the off chance he does, will the outcome be what is expected?
 

In the meantime it seems you have nothing other than hypothesis and predictions of the future to refute the Jerusalem Post article I linked. 
 

 

 

   Oh Look, what a surprise .

A few days after Israel announces that Hamas is recruiting , Israel intensifies its attacks on Gaza . 

   My prediction was correct 

 

Israel and Hamas clash over hostage release deal as Israeli strikes in Gaza intensify

https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20250105-israel-hamas-clash-hostage-release-deal-israeli-strikes-gaza-intensify

[thaibeachlovers]

On 1/5/2025 at 5:54 PM, Will B Good said:

 

I was about to write something similar....but it obviously  it would not have been so eloquent.

 

Not followed this topic.....but has Mr Trump given any indication as to the consequences of the hostages not being released as he has demanded?

Given that IMO Trump doesn't understand anyone "foreign" I think he thought that just his words would be enough to scare Hamas. I doubt he actually has any thoughts beyond that.

I'm under no illusions as to Trump's intellect ( I just like his policies ), so I doubt he actually has a clue about how to deal with the M E. Does not bode well for the future.

 

That is not to say that I think Harris would have done any better. IMO she would have been worse ( in everything ).

[Chomper Higgot]

8 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Oh Look, what a surprise .

A few days after Israel announces that Hamas is recruiting , Israel intensifies its attacks on Gaza . 

   My prediction was correct 

 

Israel and Hamas clash over hostage release deal as Israeli strikes in Gaza intensify

https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20250105-israel-hamas-clash-hostage-release-deal-israeli-strikes-gaza-intensify

Oh look you’re patting yourself on the back but have not yet demonstrated the claims made in the Jerusalem Post to be incorrect.

 

 

[Albaby]

On 1/2/2025 at 7:50 PM, Bkk Brian said:

30,000 was always an estimate for how many fighters Hamas had. We now know that the number was too low.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-794045

 

 

 

And we know that the majority of the civilians in Gaza support Hamas. Israel should deport them all to Jordan' where they originated, and annex Gaza.

 

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[Chomper Higgot]

56 minutes ago, Albaby said:

And we know that the majority of the civilians in Gaza support Hamas. Israel should deport them all to Jordan' where they originated, and annex Gaza. You cannot reason with those inbred savages.

A. The majority of Civilians in Gaza do not support Hamas.

 

B. Ethnic cleansing and land grabs - I think you might have just said the quiet bit out loud.

[thaibeachlovers]

7 hours ago, Albaby said:

And we know that the majority of the civilians in Gaza support Hamas. Israel should deport them all to Jordan' where they originated, and annex Gaza.

Palestinians were there long before israel was created in 1947, and Gaza was never included in the israeli part of the UN partition of Palestine.

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11 hours ago, Albaby said:

And we know that the majority of the civilians in Gaza support Hamas. Israel should deport them all to Jordan' where they originated, and annex Gaza.

 

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Blood Brothers: Palestinians and Jews Share Genetic Roots

Jews break down into three genetic groups, all of which have Middle Eastern origins – which are shared with the Palestinians and Druze.

https://www.haaretz.com/science-and-health/2015-10-20/ty-article/palestinians-and-jews-share-genetic-roots/0000017f-dc0e-df9c-a17f-fe1e57730000

 

 

 Archaeologic and genetic data support that both Jews and Palestinians came from the ancient Canaanites, who extensively mixed with Egyptians, Mesopotamian, and Anatolian peoples in ancient times. Thus, Palestinian-Jewish rivalry is based in cultural and religious, but not in genetic, differences. The relatively close relatedness of both Jews and Palestinians to western Mediterranean populations reflects the continuous circum-Mediterranean cultural and gene flow that have occurred in prehistoric and historic times.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11543891/

[Nick Carter icp]

6 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Blood Brothers: Palestinians and Jews Share Genetic Roots

Jews break down into three genetic groups, all of which have Middle Eastern origins – which are shared with the Palestinians and Druze.

https://www.haaretz.com/science-and-health/2015-10-20/ty-article/palestinians-and-jews-share-genetic-roots/0000017f-dc0e-df9c-a17f-fe1e57730000

 

 

 Archaeologic and genetic data support that both Jews and Palestinians came from the ancient Canaanites, who extensively mixed with Egyptians, Mesopotamian, and Anatolian peoples in ancient times. Thus, Palestinian-Jewish rivalry is based in cultural and religious, but not in genetic, differences. The relatively close relatedness of both Jews and Palestinians to western Mediterranean populations reflects the continuous circum-Mediterranean cultural and gene flow that have occurred in prehistoric and historic times.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11543891/

 

   What does that have to do with the topic ?

How many times do you need to be told about history lessons being unwanted in threads ?

   How many times do you need to be told ?

[Nick Carter icp]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Palestinians were there long before israel was created in 1947, and Gaza was never included in the israeli part of the UN partition of Palestine.

 

Jews were also there long before Israel was created in 1948 as well 

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1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   What does that have to do with the topic ?

How many times do you need to be told about history lessons being unwanted in threads ?

   How many times do you need to be told ?

Odd how you were incited by my comment, but the comment I was replying tot made the original assertion that Palestinians aren't originally from Israel excited no ire on your part. Why is that?

[Nick Carter icp]

3 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Odd how you were incited by my comment, but the comment I was replying tot made the original assertion that Palestinians aren't originally from Israel excited no ire on your part. Why is that?

 

   I wasn't incited by your post .

Why can't you follow requests to stop giving history lessons ?

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1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I wasn't incited by your post .

Why can't you follow requests to stop giving history lessons ?

Why is it only my post that you object to on is the subject and not that a strong supporter of Israel.

 

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

Jews were also there long before Israel was created in 1948 as well 

 Why are you posting about the history?

[Nick Carter icp]

4 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Why is it only my post that you object to on is the subject and not that a strong supporter of Israel.

 

 

 

   OK, I will go and tell him as well . 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

 

 

 Why are you posting about the history?

 

   There's a big difference about posting about where people who are still alive were born (as I did) and you posting about 3000 year old history which is nothing to do with the topic

[Njoku]

On 1/2/2025 at 9:50 AM, spidermike007 said:

I am sure Hamas is quaking in their boots over the threat from the goombah. 

If you read between the lines Trump is more than happy for Israel to reduce Gaza from broken concrete to just plain old dust, which means more support in arms and money.

 

 

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48 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   There's a big difference about posting about where people who are still alive were born (as I did) and you posting about 3000 year old history which is nothing to do with the topic

So you weren't writing about history?

[Bkk Brian]

On 1/7/2025 at 7:28 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   There's a big difference about posting about where people who are still alive were born (as I did) and you posting about 3000 year old history which is nothing to do with the topic

Correct, lets get it back on topic now, deal in final stages. Lets hope its the real deal this time.

 

Israeli officials: Deal will see 33 hostages freed in 1st stage, most of them alive
Negotiations to free remaining captives to begin on 16th day of potential ceasefire deal; talks advanced after ‘tense’ meeting between Netanyahu, Trump envoy.

Israeli diplomatic officials said on Monday evening that Israel was in the “advanced stages of the negotiations” with Hamas for a ceasefire deal that would see the terror group release some of the hostages it has been holding in Gaza since October 7, 2023, and ending more than 15 months of war.

Briefing military and diplomatic reporters, the officials said there had been progress in the talks in Doha, which are being coordinated by mediator countries Qatar and Egypt and the outgoing and incoming US administrations, but stressed that “the deal is not finalized.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-officials-deal-will-see-33-hostages-freed-in-1st-stage-most-of-them-alive/